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 Posted: Sat Apr 19th, 2014 06:55 pm
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Bill Fornshell
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This is related to the other thread about the "Prototype" Lisbon Trams:

http://www.freerails.com/view_topic.php?id=6011&forum_id=43

I am a member of the several European Tram yahoo groups. Several years ago someone posted a series of pictures of the Lisbon - Small Yellow Trams. I liked them and the narrow streets where they ran. I started a file for their pictures and videos. Then a few months ago another series of pictures and a couple of newer videos were posted. I did a computer search for "Lisbon Trams - Images" and found more. I also found a link to an ebay sale for an HO scale model of both the Yellow and the Red Trams. The seller was in Lisbon, Portugal. He was selling both static models and models that he was installing a small N scale power truck in.

The models are 1:87 but run on 9mm (N scale size) track. You can find the Trams "listings" by doing an ebay search for the key words "Lisbon Trams" if interested.

We exchanged many emails and I decide that since I had some of the same size power trucks as he was using, I could install my own.

You can pack up to 8 of the static models in a small box before the shipping bumps up to the next $$ amount. I ordered 5 of them.

Today, after 12 days, they arrived from Lisbon, not bad for the distance.

Since some of these Trams also carried a Pantograph and I had some similar, I might install them on a couple of mine.

I had to take one apart. The body is some kind of cast metal and the rest is plastic.
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I have 10 Pantographs like this one and might install them on a few of the Trams
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The plastic frame next to one of my small [Bandia (N-Scale) B-Train Powered Chassis3] Japanese power trucks.
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Next step is install the Power Truck and Radio Control and Battery Power System. I know it will all fit but I have to give up the interior seating.

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Hi Bill,
I've done a couple of these with the Bandai B train mechanism. I butchered mine and manage to get it under the seats, but only just. I'm looking forward to the rest of your build, as I like the idea of battery radio. I'm also impressed that you got 'em way faster than I did !



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Hi David,

Thanks for the comment.

I found an old thread on a train forum showing how someone installed a power truck in one of these models. They cut out the bottom and were able to save the seats like you did. I don't know if I will have enough space to save the seats and have room for the RC stuff yet. I might be able to slice off the seat tops and glue just the tops of some people to the seats and then sit that part on top of the Receiver / Battery.

I need to figure out how to get at the wiring for the motor so I can remove the wheel pickups and run wires from a RC Receiver to the motor. I will probably ruin one motor learning how to do this.

The shipping was 12 days and I wondered how that was going to work. I asked about it and he said he had sent some to the US before and didn't have any problems. They came through our Postal System. He was very nice to deal with and answered all my questions very quick. He didn't have enough Yellows one for my order and got more really fast. I sort of figured he took a quick trip to his local "Toys R Us" and stocked up. I think I read someplace that they have a Museum in Lisbon where they sell them along with T-shirts etc. I want a t-shirt with the Yellow Tram on it.

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Great project Bill! I always enjoy following your work.

-Cody

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Cody,

We are doing chat here, join us. Look under Menu to find chat.

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Bill Fornshell wrote:

I need to figure out how to get at the wiring for the motor so I can remove the wheel pickups and run wires from a RC Receiver to the motor. I will probably ruin one motor learning how to do this.


I think you just have to take the two screws out, and the plastic molding on top of the pickups just lifts off. The pickups themselves are pressed into little plastic pips, and again just lift out. I can't remember whether the motor is soldered in, but still, you should be able to get at it without much harm. My problem now is keeping the pickups in place without the plastic shell !



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Sitting up doing Chat tonight / morning and working on the power truck. It looked like an easy to do this and also a way that might not ruin the power truck, would be to solder leads to the brass strips inside the motor on both sides. I test this idea first to see that this would power the motor, yes it did.

That worked and the motor stills runs. Later today, and after a bit of sleep, I will connect an S-CAB Receiver to the motor, hook up the Battery wires and maybe even a headlight.

Then to connect some N scale track and see how it runs.


I have more of the floor cut out but no pictures yet.
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I changed the power truck to a KATO 11-103 as it was a better fit.













Then to test the tram going up a steep hill as it would in Lisbon I built a test hill for it to climb. It has lots of power and went up the hill like it was on a level section of track.





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Good Evening Bill,

... I read someplace that they have a Museum in Lisbon where they sell them along with T-shirts etc. I want a t-shirt with the Yellow Tram on it.
Last time I was in the Tram Museum, about 10 months ago, I didn't see any sign of  models nor T-shirts for sale.

Looks like you have fitted the Kato truck in very neatly; impressive hill climbing traction demo.

Regards            Michael

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For those into serious scale trams Occre make a nicely detailed ( IF A TAD TOUCHY TO BUILD) kit, they also make a san Fran cable car kit.....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Occre-Lisbon-Tram-1-24-Scale-Wood-Metal-Model-Kit-Lisboa-53005-/141012929588

Check out the real thing here the curves and grades are awesome; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YiHO5jZYY4



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