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Could this be the smallest switcher with a cab ever?:
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Go ahead. Make a model fitted with RC. Jose.

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way cool.jim c

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pipopak wrote:
Go ahead. Make a model fitted with RC. Jose.

What scale? ( no smaller than TT:glad:)

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Is that a cow-bell on the front of the cab ?

Nice pic Jose !

Very much the - o D d i T y - o F - t H e - d A y -

:moose:

Cheers

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I wonder what it wants to be when it grows up? ;)

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:pimp: :pimp: :pimp: :pimp: :pimp:

PIMP MY RIDE BABY !!

Photo Courtesy Of :- Polski: Muzeum Kolei Wąskotorowej w Sochaczewie. Samochód na szynach.

:pimp: :pimp: :pimp: :pimp: :pimp:

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Could be a world record Jose. I'm guessing it's Stan Gge in which case I've never seen one smaller.

The wagons each side are interesting old relics, especially that to the right which I guess is about 1850's - 1860's.

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Holy cow...and it's 3 rail also!

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The 3rd rail is for traction current pickup !

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That top one looks like an old Ford or Massey Ferguson tractor that had been converted for rail use.

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- o D d i T y - o F - t H e - d A y -

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That's odd...
Jose.

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" That's oDd "

I agree Jose.

:us: Somethings defy explanation...

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From chilly Siberia.

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Here is another.

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Hi all,
Out here Villiers motor bike engines were used as the motive power for some of the NSWGR (New South Wales Government Railways) 4-wheel track inspection vehicles (aka "Quad"). For more information have alook at http://www.nicdoncaster.com/sectioncars/types/nswgrvilliers.htm and also check out the Section Car pages from http://www.nicdoncaster.com/sectioncars/index.htm Scroll down to see all the links at the foot of the page. Caution: Be prepared to spend a while there. And you thought these were "odd"? There is enough stuff on this webpage for these strange beasties to be considered amost "common".

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HI all,

if you thought the TATA at the top of the page was "odd", try these two Morris conversions from South Australia


MIC (Motor Inspection Car) 126 of the former South Australian Railways, running on 3'6" gauge at Quorn in April this year.  For more photos of MIC126 have a look at https://www.pichirichirailway.org.au/gallery/category/462-motor-inpection-car-mic126.html

And MIC127 on static display at Steamtown Rail Heritage Centre at Peterborough in South Australia




There was a "fleet" of about 8 of these Morris 25HP units built, with MIC126 and MIC 127 being converted to run on 3'6" gauge. All others ran on the 5'3" SAR broad gauge network. Originally they were black like MIC127, but after MIC127 was involved in a fatal road crossing accident, these cars went to the paint scheme on MIC126 above to make these vehicles more obvious to dumb road users who fail to check if anything on rails is about to cross in front of them. In Australia anything on rails technically has right of way over road traffic at a level (US=grade) crossing.  

For more information on the SAR MIC's here is the information panel displayed with MIC127




Both MIC's have been re-motored with locally produced Holden motors and were good for 60 mph over the rails

Happy MIC'ing,

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Hi John :wave:

Some very oDd things you posted.

I do like No.126 !
Nice red wasp-stripes !!
BBBBZZZZZZZZ!!!!

2ft is a bit of a tricky proposition...
...getting the wheels either side of the engine.

Mmm...

Perhaps an oDd solution is needed.

L:

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" It's a '37 Chevy Holmes ! "

" How very oDd Watson "

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Hi Si,
Naah, that one is also on 3'6 gauge It's a Kiwi. Built for a logging line in New Zealand.

If you want 2' gauge try this one :bg:


It was that new in 2011, it still had the caryard stickers on the front windscreen.. I wonder what it looks like now after a few years of service on it?

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Pretty futuristic John...

...not a rivet in sight !

:moose:

The future of oDd railcars doesn't look good !

Still in a traffic-jam ... just a railed one :shocked:

oDdiTy oF tHe dAy ?
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Hi Si and all,
L: maybe we have found a way to use mobile phones in cars without hitting anyone or anything. :Crazy:
But it does look like an ongoing deep and meaningful conversation is underway onboard the car.. without the car occupants paying much attention to where they are going ;)

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Having had, at one time in my very UN-illustrious motorcycling days a woods bike with a Villiers 8E engine, I can only say how did such an underpowered POS drag a railcar around--and how long did it last screaming along wide open all the time?

Hot Rod Herbie (ex)

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Another POS manky-motor for Hot Rod Herbies unique analysis !

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The McKeen motor car’s 6-cylinder overhead-valve gasoline engine was a source of constant irritation to the V&T’s motormen and mechanics.
It was hard to start and so rough-running that it required a massive flywheel at the end of the crankshaft to keep it from stalling.
In order to reverse the direction the car moved in the engine first had to be shut down, after which the tall lever protruding from the upper center of the engine — connected to two sliding camshafts on either side of the engine, each with two sets of cams — had to be moved.
This changed the valve timing, so that when restarted the engine would then rotate in the opposite direction.

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Herb, sounds like a 'ton-up' wasn't possible in a McKeen either.

For RC users, you could probably use an airplane controller, for prototype operation.
Just STOP, shut everything down & change all the wiring around before reversing !!

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Also seems to have paper wheels, right?.
Jose.

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Wonder how they got propulsion power to the track with the car in post #18? Couldn't rely on the rubber tires rubbing on the rail, so were the tiny wheels just for guidance, and the road wheels ran on the ties? Not a rough ride if you get going fast enough on a motorcycle, I know from experience, but LOOK OUT for the switches!!

Herb

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Hi Herb,
Not sure - I didn't get a chance to get a photo of the back of it but I suspect a shaft rubbing on the back set of road wheels transferring power to the back set of wheels either directly or through some type of a mechanical gearbox/transfer case or by hydraulics but only when the rail wheels are hydraulically lowered and locked. When the rail wheels are up this shaft is moved clear of the rubber road wheels and no power is able to transferred to the rail wheels in the "up" position.

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Si

BTW There is a bit on the McKeen engine somewhere in the dark dank basement of FreeRails, but possibly not any more onfo than what you have already provided, Si. The flywheel on the McKeen isn't overlarge--The flywheel on the Brill engine of the EBT's M1 (ca 1910-1920 design) is more massive, and also had the generator armature for more WRsq. That engine is smaller--1980/CID. Did a lot of work on it in years gone by.

One of the many McKeen faults was that in had the patented (I think) McKeen ''Octroon" clutch-- which had very limited amount of ''slippage'', making a smooth start a real challenge.

Herb

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" One of the many McKeen faults was that in had the patented (I think) McKeen ''Octroon" clutch "

Hi Hot Rod Herbie :)

I have been looking into motors & drive-train bits of late.
Possibly for a totally INSANE :Crazy: railbus/truck or crispy critter experiment !

Thanks for the tip-off on the McKeen patent.
Sound like it would be useful ripped up in the outhouse !

:f:

I did for a few milliseconds consider getting into building gyroscopic-monorails. :shocked:

But in the end common sense prevailed...
...& a cheap Chinese motor in an ol' clapped out kit, seemed a safer bet !!

:moose:

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OK, here's another bit of craziness/oddness/etc...

This job flew off the "high line" after just a few trips and lost several vital pieces in the tall grass at the bottom of the "canyon".

Easy come, easy...aww, forget it.
      WCG

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This one is pretty cool and unusual.

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And note the BIG STRONG coupler!

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Well, for anyone who's ever (almost) had their Harley get the better of 'em, this thing is the hallmark of stability.
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Hi Herb
that double-decker tramcar would probably weigh in at about 10 tons empty and probably less than 15 tons with every seat full and crammed to capacity with standing adults- Remember then you used to get more adults/ton than you do these days :P

All braking would have been done by the tram motor (dummy), with probably only a lever parking brake on the double-decker trailer car.

So who needs full-sized knuckle couplers for such a "tiny" load - A flat drawbar and some decent pins and some safety chains as backup will do the job ;)

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John, you just have to learn that some times--mainly when I'm awake---- I am snarky and sarcastic. Bourbon, properly administrated, helped to alleviate the condition in the past, but now the Doc doesn't want me to drink. Grrrr.

Herb :bang:


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Two for the price of one ! :P
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This is the refined version of it.
No need for a reverse gear box!

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Hi Helmut :wave:

Refined ?
A railcar for the Museum Of Modern Art ?
Where's the rust ?
Don't tell me, German triple coat zinc, right ?

Nice one Helmut :moose: :moose: :moose: :moose: :moose:

Guess who bought 2 identical bus kits last week ?

ME ! :bg:

BTW there's no need for a reverse gearbox in 11/11A either !!

;)

Si.

Anyone else got a favorite double-ender ??

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It's odd, it's rusted, and it's on rails.

'Nuff said.

"Anyone else got a favorite double-ender ??"

Sorry, Si. This is obviously a single-ender.


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Never runs out of gas----

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I like the guardrails. Or are they grab rails for leverage?

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Sears catalogue missing...
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Would probably make a crappy model.:us:.Peter.

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Thank Heavens it's not Smell-o-vision :P

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pipopak wrote:
Sears catalogue missing...
Jose.


It's on the blue bracket attached to.the frame and the axle.

Rick

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CROSSING

Now, examine this closely




Darby,PA
The two sets of rails going from the top right to bottom left are SEPTA trolley Rt 11, The other track is the CSX (ex B&O, now CSX I think) line to Baltimore MD. There is a handful of freight trains on the CSX, but a constant flow of SEPTA traffic. Note carefully the flange ways.

Today's test is multiple choice.
Do the SEPTA cars--
1- Have levitation devices on each truck, activated when the car goes over the crossing.
2- Have flanges with notches, corresponding to, and engaging with the CSX rail.
3- Have rubber flanges.
4- Have no flanges at all.
5- Just clump over the crossing.

As usual, first winning answer gets a free years subscription to FreeRails.

I was born and spent the first 25 years of my life close to Darby, and could go check this out for myself-but even though I have a PA concealed handgun license, I would just as soon not visit any where near there now.

Herb

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Herb Kephart wrote:
Wonder how they got propulsion power to the track with the car in post #18? Couldn't rely on the rubber tires rubbing on the rail, so were the tiny wheels just for guidance, and the road wheels ran on the ties? Not a rough ride if you get going fast enough on a motorcycle, I know from experience, but LOOK OUT for the switches!!

Herb


I was wondering about the reach to the brake pedal in the foreground. Was it necessary to dismount the bike to brake?

Rick

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Yep, the futuristic rending of the "driverless" cars stacked up on the "freeway"...and what we have to look forward to now just reminds me of the well-worn bit from 2001 Space Odyssey....."Open the pod bay doors, Hal"...Please?

In outer space, they can't hear you scream!

Woodrow

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No one wants to comment on the flangeways?
I think that I have it figured out-----

Herb

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Looks to me like they just roll across.

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There are three keys to this:
1. The trolley rail is slightly higher than the CSX rail which lifts the flange on the trolley to the top of the CSX rail.
2. The angle of the crossing is not 90 degrees. That means there is always one flange on each axle sitting correctly in the trolley track.
3. The trolley travels slowly.

At any one time only one trolley wheel cross over the CSX rail. The opposite wheel on the same axle provides directional control. The flange on the trolley rides over the CSX rail.

http://www.subchat.com/readflat.asp?Id=513242&p=1

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This is what they call a "double-frogged flange, it was installed at the Main Street grade crossing. The trolley tracks are situated at a slightly higher elevation than the railroad tracks. This allows the trolley to virtually pass over the rail line without making as much contact and without creating as much wear and tear on the surrounding pavement."

This is from a Darby Borough Grade Crossing Study (May 2013)
http://www.dvrpc.org/reports/11012.pdf

Dennis aka JawboneFlats

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I wonder how long it will last before the CSX rail breaks from the trolley flanges pounding it like a multi-ton chisel.

Rick

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Thanks for the link Rod, would never have guessed that there was so much info out there.

About what I had guessed, the trolley flanges ride the slightly lower RR rail head. One fact that I didn't see noted but may have been as I didn't read all the ''fine print' I was falling asleep-- is that trolley flanges are as not as ''tall'' as RR ones. Trolley height is 5/8 to 3/4'', depending on the system, and there is no danger of the depth of the  SEPTA cars being built to RR wheel standards to run on CSX track because the gage is different (5'-2½'')

Thanks to all, your checks are in the mail.:w:

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Herb Kephart wrote:
the gage is different (5'-2½'')


Herb


Or as some in the hobby might call it, 62 1/2.

Rick

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And 158.75 CM in the ''enlightened'' countries

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@Herb
No, no, in UK they abhor foreign rulers.

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Who mentioned Great Britain ?

Are we talking about 'rulers'...
...like 1066 and the Norman conquest ?

Or

Perhaps 'rules'...
...like a 12" bit of wood...
...that sometimes might even have CMs on the back ?

:f:

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Si. wrote:


Perhaps 'rules'...
...like a 12" bit of wood...

Si.


I think you mean 30cm.

:P

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I think YOU mean 30.48cm ! :dope:

(_!_)

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@Si
flexible rulers rule OK!

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The oldest preserved measuring rod is a copper-alloy bar that dates from c. 2650 BC and was found by the German Assyriologist Eckhard Unger while excavating at Nippur.

Ludwig Wittgenstein famously used rulers as an example in his discussion of language games in the Philosophical Investigations.
He pointed out that the standard meter bar in Paris was the criterion against which all other rulers were determined to be one meter long, but that there was no analytical way to demonstrate that the standard meter bar itself was one meter long.
It could only be asserted as one meter as part of a language game.

Anton Ullrich invented the folding ruler in 1851.

Historically, a flexible lead rule used by masons that could be bent to the curves of a molding was known as a lesbian rule.

Incredible stuff !

:brill:

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How about this one, still operational?

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Glances at the Corgi O scale bus sitting on his shelf...

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Corgi...

...DOUBLE DECKER !! :shocked:

:moose:

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Single floor!

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Thank goodness for that !

There have been problems with the double-deckers sometimes !! :w:

I wouldn't have liked the view from upstairs on this one much !

:Crazy:

Si.

I guess this is what modelers would call, a QUICK CONVERSION !

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Which is probably why they don't let us Americans drive them.

Of course, if your chap weren't on the wrong side of the road...

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Maybe some explanations to post #62
When DB faced the fact that it was uneconomic to operate those branchlines in sparsely-settled areas, they partly closed rail lines, but did not want to suspend passenger service altogether. So they devised a contraption called "SchiStraBus" which translates as RailRoadBus to work both road and rail in one run. That is, you started out mounting that bus, went some distance parallel to the closed line to a station, where it was set on bogies/trucks and continued on rail to the terminus under its own power.

As for that daylighted doubledecker: IIRC that the Bus' original route was blocked by roadworks and those moroons in the dispatch handed out an alternative route to the driver without checking clearances first...

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The contemporary Japanese version of a RoadRailBus

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I am really liking that bus in post 61.

*Goes to see if he can bash a 1:25 Model A pickup and half a Bmann On30 passenger coach into something similar..."

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I like the railbus in Post 61 a lot as well !!

The Ford-A seems like a good move.
Slightly bigger engine than the 'T' I believe.
'T's perhaps better for smaller 'inspection cars' maybe ?
Or anyways yer wanna cook it, of course !

Quite a few kits & diecasts of these, in various scales.
I think Matchbox Models Of Yesteryear...
...might even do a 1/4"ish Ford-A truck & variants.

Although this jazzy model features a (probably) 'stealth' Ford engine...
...she comes sans the typical 'Ford front'.

If you scoop up some hamburger with this rusty railbus...
...the oversize bell rings, for a 1000pts bonus ! ;)

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I fear the 1:25 Model A is too big for 1:48.

I do have a 1:48 kit of a 1938 Russian BZ-38 fuel truck, though... hmmm.L:

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Hi Rick :wave:

Can't quite see the front of your truck.
But it is bound to look like a Ford.
Basically because IT IS a Ford !

Something to do with Uncle Joes 5-year plan...
...to build more Fords than Ford ! ;)

Later model trucks had very basic 'square' sheet-metal mudguards...
...since the Germans rather inconsiderately nicked their metal stamps !

The Russians made a TOTALLY HUGE AMOUNT of Ford trucks.

I just recently got this one.
Still makin' 'em in Russia...
...just out of styrene !

:moose:

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Railtruck or bus potential, for sure !
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Hi again Rick :wave:

I think that Ruskie fuel tanker, would make an AWESOME railtruck !

Sans fuel tank, which could get made into some kinda redneck logging watercar monstrosity !
You've got a basic Ford flatbed.
A few planks round the sides & BINGO !

I would consider an HO Kadee archbar truck at the front maybe.
At the rear, perhaps a std. On30 size wheelset.

I also just got an amazingly small motor/gearbox unit.
These lil' crackers cost about $2 bucks !!
There are LOADS of 'em listed on eBay, in various RPMs & Voltages.

Check 'em out.
Search :- Mini Gearbox Motor, Planetary Gear Motor, Mini Gear Motor etc.
Cheapest listings first.

Runs like a dream.
Worm on shaft, spur-gear on rear wheelset.
Bob's yer uncle !
or Joe's yer uncle, as they say in Siberia !! ;)

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This is quite useful as well.
Cost about $1.50c a buck fifty !

Search:- 60 Piece Gear Set.
There are others as well.
But the '60 Piece' listing is the cheapest.

Only 2 worms included.
But these are a buck a bag !

The hole size is often 2mm, about the same as an On30 wheelset.
A 2mm hole worm, will need drilling out to 3mm for the gearbox shaft.

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Si,

Cool stuff! You can bet I will be looking into the motors and gears, for sure!

Here's a pic of the front of the BZ38. It is a Ford, for sure.

I was going to use the refueller as a fire railtruck, but then I found an actual fire truck kit made by the same company, so I ordered up one of those, too. I have a diecast 1:48 stake bed from a Ford truck, so there's that.

I have a few of the Bachmann HO 44 and 70 ton switchers with the dual motor setup that I can use for mechanisms for the plastic kits. :)

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Here is a photo of the fire truck kit.

Apparently, someone has posted online 3D renderings of the parts on sprues for a lot of these Russian kits. If you have or have access to a 3D printer...

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This used to be a REO fire truck, now a log hauling piece of rolling funk. The fire equipment is now "details" scattered about the layout.

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FUGLY !
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BURN RUBBER BABY !!
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Hi all,
Try this standard-gauge Buda for size


One from the Canadian timber industry - Port Alberni, Vancouver Island, BC
More information at on it and an unusual looking gas-speeder at http://www.alberniheritage.com/image-gallery/term/sub/882

That's my oddity contribution for today, Odd enough??

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Ol' FUGLY here, can get a puncture AND a flat-spot, by the looks of :shocked:
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And the French thought their 'Micheline' was something ground-breaking...at least a nice way of recycling old tender frames.

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Hi Helmut :wave:Ah ! ... Tender frame ! Well spotted. Wondered where they got such a 'short flatcar' from. What a lash up though ! The redneck Health & Safety Dept. musta been out to lunch, when that hit the rails !! :moose: Si.

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Si, many loggers used old tender frames for snow plows, heavy flat cars, all kinds of mischief....

The mind boggles.
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Howdy Woodie :cb:

I actually scored recently ...
... 2 diecast Tri-ang 3-axle tender frames ! Previously unused, original spare-parts. No wheelsets or tank. Very CHEAP ! My kinda price ;)

I thought they looked pretty good as potential loco side-frames.
Could be an interesting option for a Mogul or Porter I suppose as well.

Yeah.
Heavy-flat or snow-plow ...
... thanks for the inspiration Woodie ! :bg:

I quite fancy a snow plow, maybe.
Does it ever snow down South, on the border ?

Could be a good frame for a small crane lash-up as well I guess.
Too C O O L . . .

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Backwoods Miniatures have a very nice looking On30 'double-ender' kit, for the Bachmann G.E. 45-Ton mech.

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Yep, that's a cool critter. It uses an HO Bachmann siderod diesel mechanism. Mighty fine...

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STEAM railcar, truck, thingy ? :shocked:

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AND amazingly, another angle on, STEAM rail, thingy, bus, truck ...

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Galloping Goose. steampunk style, I suppose.
Looks like a recycling of an 1840's loco in the 1870-80's.
We Germans had this one:

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Did I mention this one?

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O.k. My turn.








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P.s. I hope I don't harm any copyrights.

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Interesting enough, the Reading (Or Philadelphia&Reading as pictured ) built the first Camelback in 1877, but it is claimed to have been a 4-6-0. Now that #1 is a 0-4-0.
Would like to know when this photo was taken.

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Helmut,

Photodate is approx 1885, photo taken in Elizabethport. That is all the info I could find.

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If your clapped out rusty old railcar has really 'gone to the dogs'.Get one of these Model K9 speeders !.

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Who let the dogs out?

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Gromit just shook his head unbelievingly when he saw that one Helmut

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Yeah ... They phased out coaling depots on that line.

Still gotta stop every now and then though...
...to take on BONES ! ;)

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Kent & East Sussex Railway !
My 'hood !

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Si. wrote: If your clapped out rusty old railcar has really 'gone to the dogs'.Get one of these Model K9 speeders !.

Yikes!
Too easy for one of the dogs to break a leg (or worse) between ties like that!


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Beware of the fire hydrants!

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This critter has rode the rails here before...

...& sure could be       oDdiTy oF tHe dAy

:bg:

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Looks like a GE44 with verandahs added.

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Hi all,
Must be hot out the verandahs and extended sunshades above the cab windows

Possibly a Bachmann 45 tonner with the flycranks and rods would give you a good start in HO

:Crazy: Who's going to be the first to show us a model one??

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I'd say Plymouth.
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I have a few 44-ton Bachmann switchers laying around...

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Well ...... certainly an oDdiTy fer sure !

A colour pic. this time, of the Ruskie ROCKET ! Railcar turned up ...
... so here she is.

Bit rusty & clapped out & shunted to one side ...
... but I know yer like 'em like that ! ;)

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The NYC had one too:



After getting tired of changing underwear the turbines were removed and things returned to "normal". The little pipe under the turbines is a Pitot tube (like the one in planes). Seems that expectations were REALLY high...
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Pitot-static instruments are more accurate at sea level due to compressibility at altitude.  I don't think there's a speed/accuracy curve for pitot-static instrumentation or controls.
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Pullman Railplane - and this thing actually ran near the location of my Red Creek & Ramsey Springs operations.
Designed by an engineering firm in Dearborn, Michigan, and built in 1933, the streamlined, self-propelled railroad car had an aluminum body and was powered by two gasoline engines. At full speed, the car was capable of reaching speeds of 90 mph. After its unveiling at the World's Fair, the car was leased to the Gulf, Mobile & Northern Railroad (later to form part of the G.M.& O.) in 1935 and used – of all places –  between Tylertown and Jackson, Mississippi.

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One of these is going to be built for the RC&RS, too.

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This is a little-known photo of the inventor of the windscreen.

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Rick S wrote: One of these is going to be built for the RC&RS, too.Cool. I like these way old things. They are really what I wanted to do in a larger scale than O when I got serious about model trains in 10th grade. It was far easier to do HO diesels, you fit in to the group very much more. And I never did find where to get wheels to build my own.

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@Rick S >>One of these is going to be built for the RC&RS, too.<<
 You can go to the museum and take measurements, maybe. Here's the pre-photoshopped photo. Tells you a bit about the railroad. BTW: Did you notice that this loco is a camelback? The engineer clearly stands above the boiler, and it is fired from the end of the carriage. Here's a description of loco and time the photo was taken( pages 55 and 56 )

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You can download the whole book at:

https://archive.org/details/bulletinunitedst2101956unit

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This rocket powered railcar, will certainly get you places QUICKLY !! :bg:

Tested at Edwards Air Force Base, it accelerated with a 'G' force of 46.2 !! :shocked:

Drawbacks are probably, high ticket price, & no space for groceries on the way back from The Mall. ;)

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Could possibly turn your pint of milk into yoghurt ?

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This 50,788 foot sled track at Holloman AFB New Mexico, is the longest in the world.
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And it delivers beef stew to your lap.

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I imagine a 'sick-bag' at that kinda speed...


...is about as useful as an ashtray on a motorcycle !


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I had an ashtray on my H-D.  Technically, it was just a butt can... 
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VW/Porsche Kleinbahn - powered by a VW industrial engine, these were built from 1954-1971 and used in parks.  It pulled three cars with the capacity for 90 passengers.

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I guess aerodynamics isn't always an issue in some applications. L:


Nice environment-friendly paint-scheme...

...shame about the motor ! :P


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A powered garden shed?
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  • Something a bit different ...
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Just "a bit" different?. WHAT THE HECK IS THAT???
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Pole road lovo built by Robb Engineering Company (builder & designer) - Amherst, Nova Scotia, Canada - in 1903.
The boiler was tilted upward to help with water circulation and fire draught.
Two cylinders were mounted next to the boiler and at a similar upward tilted angle. They drove disk cranks which were attached to a shaft mounted below and perpendicular to the boiler. "This was spur geared, at a 4 to 1 ratio, with an intermediate shaft carrying chain-sprocket wheels, which drove the four carrying wheels by steel chains."
The four wheels were mounted on "sensitive springs". They were concave or double flanged with treads for gripping the poles
It could haul as many as 10 loaded cars.
Emile Stehelin (owner) - a French migrant lumberman who operated a 15 mile long "pole" railroad to haul logs out of his timberland.
Photo & data source: "Unusual Locomotives" by Ernest F. Carter / Frederick Muller Ltd, London 1960 p. 181

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Again by Robb Engineering Co Ltd - The locomotive “Maria Theresa” was built in 1897 for the W&NFR by Robb Engineering & Co., Ltd., Amherst. President D. W. Robb is seated at the throttle; standing behind him are Emile Charles Stehelin and (perhaps) Emile Jean, his oldest son. Although the locomotive is on iron rails in the factory yard, it was designed to run on rails constructed from wood logs, 20–30 feet long, squared on three sides and laid with the rounded side up.



More info on the railroad it ran on here - this poleroad for one seems to have had switches! ( remember the discussion we had on here a few years ago?) 
 http://yarmouthhistory.ca/yarmouthhistory/Albums/Pages/Remains_of_Nova_Scotias_New_France.html#2
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HOLY S$%T! That little pole loco just begs to be modeled. Who's first?

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It looks badly designed

Cadillac keep the front low so you can see where you're going



There's a lot of roadhogs out there !

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Whatever they were smoking/drinking/injecting I want some!.
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Well, in the 19th century they probably first indulged in absinthe before tackling the construction board, and maybe they got acquainted with Fitz Hugh Ludlow, so grass may have been en vogue also. That may have led to the assumption that a slanted boiler would give more steam per sqft. of flue surface.

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The trucks with the VERY closely spaced wheels sure are an oDdiTy !


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Si. wrote: The trucks with the VERY closely spaced wheels sure are an oDdiTy !


:bg:


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And the rest is all so perfectly normal.......
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Woodie: pole railroads are ideally suited for RC... and the trackwork does not need to be totally perfect. Between this and the Maumee RR... Decisions. decisions.
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If deburring removes burrs, do decisions remove cisions?

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Jose, yes...r/c would permit building a pole road loco which would run on real peeled logs! I have thought about an old Class A Climax pole loco but then would I be building this just to prove it could be done (it certainly can) or do I want to work on the layout I have now (even with a foray into bull-dozing)...?
Decisions...cisions...

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Chuff without the puff ! :old dude:


Overhead electric powered steam locomotive !!


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Now I know what to do with the spare catenary I have in my parts bin!
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During WWII, when there was a coal shortage in Switzerland, but electrical power abounded of course, two switchers were equipped with a transformer that had a secondary ouput of 20V, and two electric cookers on the running boards. The current was 12000A, so there were 480kVA = 620hp available. The locos were operated that way until 1951, when the coal situation returned to normal, and lasted in regular SBB service until 1963.

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pipopak wrote: Woodie: pole railroads are ideally suited for RC... and the trackwork does not need to be totally perfect. Between this and the Maumee RR... Decisions. decisions.
Jose. 

Stay tuned - photos just  might magically appear here after Easter.... (now where's that "I've got a secret" emoticon??)

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Si,

This would be perfect for me (post 122).  I've got a HO Plymouth that needs to be converted to 35n2 and the body should be easy to build.  Everything is simple, straight (well, kinda), and boxy.  Any mistakes I make will simply add to the 'charm' of the engine.

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Pacific Electric diesels were equipped with trolley poles to activate the signal system.

http://www.pacificelectric.org/pacific-electric/northern-district/1321-freight-service/


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" Si, This would be perfect for me (post 122).
I've got a HO Plymouth that needs to be converted to 35n2 and the body should be easy to build.
Everything is simple, straight (well, kinda), and boxy.
Any mistakes I make will simply add to the 'charm' of the engine."


Hi Michael :wave:

ARH ! ... The 'Redneck Rolls Royce' huh ?
Well, even my Tri-ang Railways(TM) steeple-cab has more RIVETS than that ! ;)

Could be a good 'prototype' to choose Michael.
There's certainly not much there that the 'pickers & counters' could sink their teeth into !
If they tried, I think those suckers would end up with a mouth full of splinters. :bg:

The charm of the engine is indeed there in SPADES !
I think real wood, as opposed to styrene would be called for.
Somehow actual wood, does a really good job of looking like ... well ... WOOD.


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Perhaps some health & safety worrying SPLINTERING effects !

( make sure they are EXACTLY to scale though ! )


I'd say, give the damn pickers & counters a run for their MONEY !


GO FOR IT ! !



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Si,

I've styrene for the frame and wood for the body.  Construction starts tonight!

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Making progress.




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Making slow but steady progress.





Looks a little like a steeple cab, but with a little funky home-built feel.

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A little more progress.  Gotta finish up the roof and add a few details like horn, bell, and lights.  She's been named 'Trooper' because she keeps rolling along like a real trooper.




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She's getting there! A critter with character fer sure.

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Maybe it shows, but I never drew out any kind of plan for the critter.  I worked off of one photograph, some guesstimations, and what I thought it should look like.  As long as it works I'm happy.

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Hi Michael :wave:


Well ... You certainly gave me a SHOCK :shocked: with the colour-scheme !

Royal Mail
London double-decker bus
Ferrari red !


It's the kinda vehicle which the crowds at Silverstone
would have loved to see Michael Schumacher start the British Grand Prix in every year !


Who knows ? ... DOES it contain an F1 engine ?
I think one would fit !
'Prancing Horse' decal on the 'nose' maybe ? L:


;)


Si.


Screw the engine anyway ... it's all about 'mechanical grip' & aerodynamics ! ;)

We know the 'aero-package' is less than optimum...
...so how's the 'mechanical' grip' ?

:brill:

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I took the weights out to make room for the engineer, and possibly R/C in the future.  I certainly have the room inside since I built a new body.  I may add some lead just for a little extra traction.  I only expect it to pull a few cars anyways.

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I recognize that loco! I believe it is a Swedish critter and I also think that Tom Yorke brought out a kit for the thing! All I know is that I have seen a kit somewhere...cool as hell! Neat thing to build, carry on.

Woodie

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Didn't know he put out a kit for this.  A little expensive at $125.  I might have spent $20 total for everything including the Plymouth engine.  Most of the materials I already had on hand.

http://tomyorkegn15emporium.blogspot.com/

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Installed an exhaust stack, small lights on each end, horn and clanger bell.



I think I'll declare this project finished. 


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