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Could this be the smallest switcher with a cab ever?:
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Go ahead. Make a model fitted with RC. Jose.

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way cool.jim c

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pipopak wrote:
Go ahead. Make a model fitted with RC. Jose.

What scale? ( no smaller than TT:glad:)

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Is that a cow-bell on the front of the cab ?

Nice pic Jose !

Very much the - o D d i T y - o F - t H e - d A y -

:moose:

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I wonder what it wants to be when it grows up? ;)

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:pimp: :pimp: :pimp: :pimp: :pimp:

PIMP MY RIDE BABY !!

Photo Courtesy Of :- Polski: Muzeum Kolei Wąskotorowej w Sochaczewie. Samochód na szynach.

:pimp: :pimp: :pimp: :pimp: :pimp:

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Could be a world record Jose. I'm guessing it's Stan Gge in which case I've never seen one smaller.

The wagons each side are interesting old relics, especially that to the right which I guess is about 1850's - 1860's.

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Holy cow...and it's 3 rail also!

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The 3rd rail is for traction current pickup !

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That top one looks like an old Ford or Massey Ferguson tractor that had been converted for rail use.

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- o D d i T y - o F - t H e - d A y -

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That's odd...
Jose.

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" That's oDd "

I agree Jose.

:us: Somethings defy explanation...

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From chilly Siberia.

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Here is another.

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Hi all,
Out here Villiers motor bike engines were used as the motive power for some of the NSWGR (New South Wales Government Railways) 4-wheel track inspection vehicles (aka "Quad"). For more information have alook at http://www.nicdoncaster.com/sectioncars/types/nswgrvilliers.htm and also check out the Section Car pages from http://www.nicdoncaster.com/sectioncars/index.htm Scroll down to see all the links at the foot of the page. Caution: Be prepared to spend a while there. And you thought these were "odd"? There is enough stuff on this webpage for these strange beasties to be considered amost "common".

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HI all,

if you thought the TATA at the top of the page was "odd", try these two Morris conversions from South Australia


MIC (Motor Inspection Car) 126 of the former South Australian Railways, running on 3'6" gauge at Quorn in April this year.  For more photos of MIC126 have a look at https://www.pichirichirailway.org.au/gallery/category/462-motor-inpection-car-mic126.html

And MIC127 on static display at Steamtown Rail Heritage Centre at Peterborough in South Australia




There was a "fleet" of about 8 of these Morris 25HP units built, with MIC126 and MIC 127 being converted to run on 3'6" gauge. All others ran on the 5'3" SAR broad gauge network. Originally they were black like MIC127, but after MIC127 was involved in a fatal road crossing accident, these cars went to the paint scheme on MIC126 above to make these vehicles more obvious to dumb road users who fail to check if anything on rails is about to cross in front of them. In Australia anything on rails technically has right of way over road traffic at a level (US=grade) crossing.  

For more information on the SAR MIC's here is the information panel displayed with MIC127




Both MIC's have been re-motored with locally produced Holden motors and were good for 60 mph over the rails

Happy MIC'ing,

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Hi John :wave:

Some very oDd things you posted.

I do like No.126 !
Nice red wasp-stripes !!
BBBBZZZZZZZZ!!!!

2ft is a bit of a tricky proposition...
...getting the wheels either side of the engine.

Mmm...

Perhaps an oDd solution is needed.

L:

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" It's a '37 Chevy Holmes ! "

" How very oDd Watson "

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Hi Si,
Naah, that one is also on 3'6 gauge It's a Kiwi. Built for a logging line in New Zealand.

If you want 2' gauge try this one :bg:


It was that new in 2011, it still had the caryard stickers on the front windscreen.. I wonder what it looks like now after a few years of service on it?

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Pretty futuristic John...

...not a rivet in sight !

:moose:

The future of oDd railcars doesn't look good !

Still in a traffic-jam ... just a railed one :shocked:

oDdiTy oF tHe dAy ?
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Hi Si and all,
L: maybe we have found a way to use mobile phones in cars without hitting anyone or anything. :Crazy:
But it does look like an ongoing deep and meaningful conversation is underway onboard the car.. without the car occupants paying much attention to where they are going ;)

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Having had, at one time in my very UN-illustrious motorcycling days a woods bike with a Villiers 8E engine, I can only say how did such an underpowered POS drag a railcar around--and how long did it last screaming along wide open all the time?

Hot Rod Herbie (ex)

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Another POS manky-motor for Hot Rod Herbies unique analysis !

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The McKeen motor car’s 6-cylinder overhead-valve gasoline engine was a source of constant irritation to the V&T’s motormen and mechanics.
It was hard to start and so rough-running that it required a massive flywheel at the end of the crankshaft to keep it from stalling.
In order to reverse the direction the car moved in the engine first had to be shut down, after which the tall lever protruding from the upper center of the engine — connected to two sliding camshafts on either side of the engine, each with two sets of cams — had to be moved.
This changed the valve timing, so that when restarted the engine would then rotate in the opposite direction.

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Herb, sounds like a 'ton-up' wasn't possible in a McKeen either.

For RC users, you could probably use an airplane controller, for prototype operation.
Just STOP, shut everything down & change all the wiring around before reversing !!

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Also seems to have paper wheels, right?.
Jose.

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Wonder how they got propulsion power to the track with the car in post #18? Couldn't rely on the rubber tires rubbing on the rail, so were the tiny wheels just for guidance, and the road wheels ran on the ties? Not a rough ride if you get going fast enough on a motorcycle, I know from experience, but LOOK OUT for the switches!!

Herb

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Hi Herb,
Not sure - I didn't get a chance to get a photo of the back of it but I suspect a shaft rubbing on the back set of road wheels transferring power to the back set of wheels either directly or through some type of a mechanical gearbox/transfer case or by hydraulics but only when the rail wheels are hydraulically lowered and locked. When the rail wheels are up this shaft is moved clear of the rubber road wheels and no power is able to transferred to the rail wheels in the "up" position.

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Si

BTW There is a bit on the McKeen engine somewhere in the dark dank basement of FreeRails, but possibly not any more onfo than what you have already provided, Si. The flywheel on the McKeen isn't overlarge--The flywheel on the Brill engine of the EBT's M1 (ca 1910-1920 design) is more massive, and also had the generator armature for more WRsq. That engine is smaller--1980/CID. Did a lot of work on it in years gone by.

One of the many McKeen faults was that in had the patented (I think) McKeen ''Octroon" clutch-- which had very limited amount of ''slippage'', making a smooth start a real challenge.

Herb

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" One of the many McKeen faults was that in had the patented (I think) McKeen ''Octroon" clutch "

Hi Hot Rod Herbie :)

I have been looking into motors & drive-train bits of late.
Possibly for a totally INSANE :Crazy: railbus/truck or crispy critter experiment !

Thanks for the tip-off on the McKeen patent.
Sound like it would be useful ripped up in the outhouse !

:f:

I did for a few milliseconds consider getting into building gyroscopic-monorails. :shocked:

But in the end common sense prevailed...
...& a cheap Chinese motor in an ol' clapped out kit, seemed a safer bet !!

:moose:

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OK, here's another bit of craziness/oddness/etc...

This job flew off the "high line" after just a few trips and lost several vital pieces in the tall grass at the bottom of the "canyon".

Easy come, easy...aww, forget it.
      WCG

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This one is pretty cool and unusual.

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And note the BIG STRONG coupler!

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Well, for anyone who's ever (almost) had their Harley get the better of 'em, this thing is the hallmark of stability.
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Hi Herb
that double-decker tramcar would probably weigh in at about 10 tons empty and probably less than 15 tons with every seat full and crammed to capacity with standing adults- Remember then you used to get more adults/ton than you do these days :P

All braking would have been done by the tram motor (dummy), with probably only a lever parking brake on the double-decker trailer car.

So who needs full-sized knuckle couplers for such a "tiny" load - A flat drawbar and some decent pins and some safety chains as backup will do the job ;)

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John, you just have to learn that some times--mainly when I'm awake---- I am snarky and sarcastic. Bourbon, properly administrated, helped to alleviate the condition in the past, but now the Doc doesn't want me to drink. Grrrr.

Herb :bang:


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Two for the price of one ! :P
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This is the refined version of it.
No need for a reverse gear box!

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Hi Helmut :wave:

Refined ?
A railcar for the Museum Of Modern Art ?
Where's the rust ?
Don't tell me, German triple coat zinc, right ?

Nice one Helmut :moose: :moose: :moose: :moose: :moose:

Guess who bought 2 identical bus kits last week ?

ME ! :bg:

BTW there's no need for a reverse gearbox in 11/11A either !!

;)

Si.

Anyone else got a favorite double-ender ??

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It's odd, it's rusted, and it's on rails.

'Nuff said.

"Anyone else got a favorite double-ender ??"

Sorry, Si. This is obviously a single-ender.


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Never runs out of gas----

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I like the guardrails. Or are they grab rails for leverage?

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Sears catalogue missing...
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Would probably make a crappy model.:us:.Peter.

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Thank Heavens it's not Smell-o-vision :P

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pipopak wrote:
Sears catalogue missing...
Jose.


It's on the blue bracket attached to.the frame and the axle.

Rick

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CROSSING

Now, examine this closely




Darby,PA
The two sets of rails going from the top right to bottom left are SEPTA trolley Rt 11, The other track is the CSX (ex B&O, now CSX I think) line to Baltimore MD. There is a handful of freight trains on the CSX, but a constant flow of SEPTA traffic. Note carefully the flange ways.

Today's test is multiple choice.
Do the SEPTA cars--
1- Have levitation devices on each truck, activated when the car goes over the crossing.
2- Have flanges with notches, corresponding to, and engaging with the CSX rail.
3- Have rubber flanges.
4- Have no flanges at all.
5- Just clump over the crossing.

As usual, first winning answer gets a free years subscription to FreeRails.

I was born and spent the first 25 years of my life close to Darby, and could go check this out for myself-but even though I have a PA concealed handgun license, I would just as soon not visit any where near there now.

Herb

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Herb Kephart wrote:
Wonder how they got propulsion power to the track with the car in post #18? Couldn't rely on the rubber tires rubbing on the rail, so were the tiny wheels just for guidance, and the road wheels ran on the ties? Not a rough ride if you get going fast enough on a motorcycle, I know from experience, but LOOK OUT for the switches!!

Herb


I was wondering about the reach to the brake pedal in the foreground. Was it necessary to dismount the bike to brake?

Rick

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Yep, the futuristic rending of the "driverless" cars stacked up on the "freeway"...and what we have to look forward to now just reminds me of the well-worn bit from 2001 Space Odyssey....."Open the pod bay doors, Hal"...Please?

In outer space, they can't hear you scream!

Woodrow

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No one wants to comment on the flangeways?
I think that I have it figured out-----

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Looks to me like they just roll across.

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There are three keys to this:
1. The trolley rail is slightly higher than the CSX rail which lifts the flange on the trolley to the top of the CSX rail.
2. The angle of the crossing is not 90 degrees. That means there is always one flange on each axle sitting correctly in the trolley track.
3. The trolley travels slowly.

At any one time only one trolley wheel cross over the CSX rail. The opposite wheel on the same axle provides directional control. The flange on the trolley rides over the CSX rail.

http://www.subchat.com/readflat.asp?Id=513242&p=1

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This is what they call a "double-frogged flange, it was installed at the Main Street grade crossing. The trolley tracks are situated at a slightly higher elevation than the railroad tracks. This allows the trolley to virtually pass over the rail line without making as much contact and without creating as much wear and tear on the surrounding pavement."

This is from a Darby Borough Grade Crossing Study (May 2013)
http://www.dvrpc.org/reports/11012.pdf

Dennis aka JawboneFlats

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I wonder how long it will last before the CSX rail breaks from the trolley flanges pounding it like a multi-ton chisel.

Rick

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Thanks for the link Rod, would never have guessed that there was so much info out there.

About what I had guessed, the trolley flanges ride the slightly lower RR rail head. One fact that I didn't see noted but may have been as I didn't read all the ''fine print' I was falling asleep-- is that trolley flanges are as not as ''tall'' as RR ones. Trolley height is 5/8 to 3/4'', depending on the system, and there is no danger of the depth of the  SEPTA cars being built to RR wheel standards to run on CSX track because the gage is different (5'-2½'')

Thanks to all, your checks are in the mail.:w:

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Herb Kephart wrote:
the gage is different (5'-2½'')


Herb


Or as some in the hobby might call it, 62 1/2.

Rick

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And 158.75 CM in the ''enlightened'' countries

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@Herb
No, no, in UK they abhor foreign rulers.

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Who mentioned Great Britain ?

Are we talking about 'rulers'...
...like 1066 and the Norman conquest ?

Or

Perhaps 'rules'...
...like a 12" bit of wood...
...that sometimes might even have CMs on the back ?

:f:

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Si. wrote:


Perhaps 'rules'...
...like a 12" bit of wood...

Si.


I think you mean 30cm.

:P

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I think YOU mean 30.48cm ! :dope:

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@Si
flexible rulers rule OK!

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The oldest preserved measuring rod is a copper-alloy bar that dates from c. 2650 BC and was found by the German Assyriologist Eckhard Unger while excavating at Nippur.

Ludwig Wittgenstein famously used rulers as an example in his discussion of language games in the Philosophical Investigations.
He pointed out that the standard meter bar in Paris was the criterion against which all other rulers were determined to be one meter long, but that there was no analytical way to demonstrate that the standard meter bar itself was one meter long.
It could only be asserted as one meter as part of a language game.

Anton Ullrich invented the folding ruler in 1851.

Historically, a flexible lead rule used by masons that could be bent to the curves of a molding was known as a lesbian rule.

Incredible stuff !

:brill:

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How about this one, still operational?

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Glances at the Corgi O scale bus sitting on his shelf...

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Corgi...

...DOUBLE DECKER !! :shocked:

:moose:

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Single floor!

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Thank goodness for that !

There have been problems with the double-deckers sometimes !! :w:

I wouldn't have liked the view from upstairs on this one much !

:Crazy:

Si.

I guess this is what modelers would call, a QUICK CONVERSION !

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Which is probably why they don't let us Americans drive them.

Of course, if your chap weren't on the wrong side of the road...

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Maybe some explanations to post #62
When DB faced the fact that it was uneconomic to operate those branchlines in sparsely-settled areas, they partly closed rail lines, but did not want to suspend passenger service altogether. So they devised a contraption called "SchiStraBus" which translates as RailRoadBus to work both road and rail in one run. That is, you started out mounting that bus, went some distance parallel to the closed line to a station, where it was set on bogies/trucks and continued on rail to the terminus under its own power.

As for that daylighted doubledecker: IIRC that the Bus' original route was blocked by roadworks and those moroons in the dispatch handed out an alternative route to the driver without checking clearances first...

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The contemporary Japanese version of a RoadRailBus

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I am really liking that bus in post 61.

*Goes to see if he can bash a 1:25 Model A pickup and half a Bmann On30 passenger coach into something similar..."

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I like the railbus in Post 61 a lot as well !!

The Ford-A seems like a good move.
Slightly bigger engine than the 'T' I believe.
'T's perhaps better for smaller 'inspection cars' maybe ?
Or anyways yer wanna cook it, of course !

Quite a few kits & diecasts of these, in various scales.
I think Matchbox Models Of Yesteryear...
...might even do a 1/4"ish Ford-A truck & variants.

Although this jazzy model features a (probably) 'stealth' Ford engine...
...she comes sans the typical 'Ford front'.

If you scoop up some hamburger with this rusty railbus...
...the oversize bell rings, for a 1000pts bonus ! ;)

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I fear the 1:25 Model A is too big for 1:48.

I do have a 1:48 kit of a 1938 Russian BZ-38 fuel truck, though... hmmm.L:

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Hi Rick :wave:

Can't quite see the front of your truck.
But it is bound to look like a Ford.
Basically because IT IS a Ford !

Something to do with Uncle Joes 5-year plan...
...to build more Fords than Ford ! ;)

Later model trucks had very basic 'square' sheet-metal mudguards...
...since the Germans rather inconsiderately nicked their metal stamps !

The Russians made a TOTALLY HUGE AMOUNT of Ford trucks.

I just recently got this one.
Still makin' 'em in Russia...
...just out of styrene !

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Railtruck or bus potential, for sure !
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Hi again Rick :wave:

I think that Ruskie fuel tanker, would make an AWESOME railtruck !

Sans fuel tank, which could get made into some kinda redneck logging watercar monstrosity !
You've got a basic Ford flatbed.
A few planks round the sides & BINGO !

I would consider an HO Kadee archbar truck at the front maybe.
At the rear, perhaps a std. On30 size wheelset.

I also just got an amazingly small motor/gearbox unit.
These lil' crackers cost about $2 bucks !!
There are LOADS of 'em listed on eBay, in various RPMs & Voltages.

Check 'em out.
Search :- Mini Gearbox Motor, Planetary Gear Motor, Mini Gear Motor etc.
Cheapest listings first.

Runs like a dream.
Worm on shaft, spur-gear on rear wheelset.
Bob's yer uncle !
or Joe's yer uncle, as they say in Siberia !! ;)

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This is quite useful as well.
Cost about $1.50c a buck fifty !

Search:- 60 Piece Gear Set.
There are others as well.
But the '60 Piece' listing is the cheapest.

Only 2 worms included.
But these are a buck a bag !

The hole size is often 2mm, about the same as an On30 wheelset.
A 2mm hole worm, will need drilling out to 3mm for the gearbox shaft.

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Si,

Cool stuff! You can bet I will be looking into the motors and gears, for sure!

Here's a pic of the front of the BZ38. It is a Ford, for sure.

I was going to use the refueller as a fire railtruck, but then I found an actual fire truck kit made by the same company, so I ordered up one of those, too. I have a diecast 1:48 stake bed from a Ford truck, so there's that.

I have a few of the Bachmann HO 44 and 70 ton switchers with the dual motor setup that I can use for mechanisms for the plastic kits. :)

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Here is a photo of the fire truck kit.

Apparently, someone has posted online 3D renderings of the parts on sprues for a lot of these Russian kits. If you have or have access to a 3D printer...

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This used to be a REO fire truck, now a log hauling piece of rolling funk. The fire equipment is now "details" scattered about the layout.

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FUGLY !
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BURN RUBBER BABY !!
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Hi all,
Try this standard-gauge Buda for size


One from the Canadian timber industry - Port Alberni, Vancouver Island, BC
More information at on it and an unusual looking gas-speeder at http://www.alberniheritage.com/image-gallery/term/sub/882

That's my oddity contribution for today, Odd enough??

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Ol' FUGLY here, can get a puncture AND a flat-spot, by the looks of :shocked:
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And the French thought their 'Micheline' was something ground-breaking...at least a nice way of recycling old tender frames.

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Hi Helmut :wave:Ah ! ... Tender frame ! Well spotted. Wondered where they got such a 'short flatcar' from. What a lash up though ! The redneck Health & Safety Dept. musta been out to lunch, when that hit the rails !! :moose: Si.

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Si, many loggers used old tender frames for snow plows, heavy flat cars, all kinds of mischief....

The mind boggles.
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Howdy Woodie :cb:

I actually scored recently ...
... 2 diecast Tri-ang 3-axle tender frames ! Previously unused, original spare-parts. No wheelsets or tank. Very CHEAP ! My kinda price ;)

I thought they looked pretty good as potential loco side-frames.
Could be an interesting option for a Mogul or Porter I suppose as well.

Yeah.
Heavy-flat or snow-plow ...
... thanks for the inspiration Woodie ! :bg:

I quite fancy a snow plow, maybe.
Does it ever snow down South, on the border ?

Could be a good frame for a small crane lash-up as well I guess.
Too C O O L . . .

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Backwoods Miniatures have a very nice looking On30 'double-ender' kit, for the Bachmann G.E. 45-Ton mech.

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Yep, that's a cool critter. It uses an HO Bachmann siderod diesel mechanism. Mighty fine...

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STEAM railcar, truck, thingy ? :shocked:

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AND amazingly, another angle on, STEAM rail, thingy, bus, truck ...

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Galloping Goose. steampunk style, I suppose.
Looks like a recycling of an 1840's loco in the 1870-80's.
We Germans had this one:

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Did I mention this one?

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O.k. My turn.








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P.s. I hope I don't harm any copyrights.

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Interesting enough, the Reading (Or Philadelphia&Reading as pictured ) built the first Camelback in 1877, but it is claimed to have been a 4-6-0. Now that #1 is a 0-4-0.
Would like to know when this photo was taken.

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Helmut,

Photodate is approx 1885, photo taken in Elizabethport. That is all the info I could find.

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If your clapped out rusty old railcar has really 'gone to the dogs'.Get one of these Model K9 speeders !.

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Who let the dogs out?

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Gromit just shook his head unbelievingly when he saw that one Helmut

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Yeah ... They phased out coaling depots on that line.

Still gotta stop every now and then though...
...to take on BONES ! ;)

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Kent & East Sussex Railway !
My 'hood !

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Si. wrote: If your clapped out rusty old railcar has really 'gone to the dogs'.Get one of these Model K9 speeders !.

Yikes!
Too easy for one of the dogs to break a leg (or worse) between ties like that!


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Beware of the fire hydrants!

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This critter has rode the rails here before...

...& sure could be       oDdiTy oF tHe dAy

:bg:

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Looks like a GE44 with verandahs added.

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Hi all,
Must be hot out the verandahs and extended sunshades above the cab windows

Possibly a Bachmann 45 tonner with the flycranks and rods would give you a good start in HO

:Crazy: Who's going to be the first to show us a model one??

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I'd say Plymouth.
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I have a few 44-ton Bachmann switchers laying around...

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Well ...... certainly an oDdiTy fer sure !

A colour pic. this time, of the Ruskie ROCKET ! Railcar turned up ...
... so here she is.

Bit rusty & clapped out & shunted to one side ...
... but I know yer like 'em like that ! ;)

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The NYC had one too:



After getting tired of changing underwear the turbines were removed and things returned to "normal". The little pipe under the turbines is a Pitot tube (like the one in planes). Seems that expectations were REALLY high...
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Pitot-static instruments are more accurate at sea level due to compressibility at altitude.  I don't think there's a speed/accuracy curve for pitot-static instrumentation or controls.
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Pullman Railplane - and this thing actually ran near the location of my Red Creek & Ramsey Springs operations.
Designed by an engineering firm in Dearborn, Michigan, and built in 1933, the streamlined, self-propelled railroad car had an aluminum body and was powered by two gasoline engines. At full speed, the car was capable of reaching speeds of 90 mph. After its unveiling at the World's Fair, the car was leased to the Gulf, Mobile & Northern Railroad (later to form part of the G.M.& O.) in 1935 and used – of all places –  between Tylertown and Jackson, Mississippi.

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One of these is going to be built for the RC&RS, too.

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This is a little-known photo of the inventor of the windscreen.

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Rick S wrote: One of these is going to be built for the RC&RS, too.Cool. I like these way old things. They are really what I wanted to do in a larger scale than O when I got serious about model trains in 10th grade. It was far easier to do HO diesels, you fit in to the group very much more. And I never did find where to get wheels to build my own.

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@Rick S >>One of these is going to be built for the RC&RS, too.<<
 You can go to the museum and take measurements, maybe. Here's the pre-photoshopped photo. Tells you a bit about the railroad. BTW: Did you notice that this loco is a camelback? The engineer clearly stands above the boiler, and it is fired from the end of the carriage. Here's a description of loco and time the photo was taken( pages 55 and 56 )

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You can download the whole book at:

https://archive.org/details/bulletinunitedst2101956unit

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This rocket powered railcar, will certainly get you places QUICKLY !! :bg:

Tested at Edwards Air Force Base, it accelerated with a 'G' force of 46.2 !! :shocked:

Drawbacks are probably, high ticket price, & no space for groceries on the way back from The Mall. ;)

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Could possibly turn your pint of milk into yoghurt ?

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This 50,788 foot sled track at Holloman AFB New Mexico, is the longest in the world.
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And it delivers beef stew to your lap.

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I imagine a 'sick-bag' at that kinda speed...


...is about as useful as an ashtray on a motorcycle !


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I had an ashtray on my H-D.  Technically, it was just a butt can... 
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VW/Porsche Kleinbahn - powered by a VW industrial engine, these were built from 1954-1971 and used in parks.  It pulled three cars with the capacity for 90 passengers.

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I guess aerodynamics isn't always an issue in some applications. L:


Nice environment-friendly paint-scheme...

...shame about the motor ! :P


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A powered garden shed?
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  • Something a bit different ...
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Just "a bit" different?. WHAT THE HECK IS THAT???
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Pole road lovo built by Robb Engineering Company (builder & designer) - Amherst, Nova Scotia, Canada - in 1903.
The boiler was tilted upward to help with water circulation and fire draught.
Two cylinders were mounted next to the boiler and at a similar upward tilted angle. They drove disk cranks which were attached to a shaft mounted below and perpendicular to the boiler. "This was spur geared, at a 4 to 1 ratio, with an intermediate shaft carrying chain-sprocket wheels, which drove the four carrying wheels by steel chains."
The four wheels were mounted on "sensitive springs". They were concave or double flanged with treads for gripping the poles
It could haul as many as 10 loaded cars.
Emile Stehelin (owner) - a French migrant lumberman who operated a 15 mile long "pole" railroad to haul logs out of his timberland.
Photo & data source: "Unusual Locomotives" by Ernest F. Carter / Frederick Muller Ltd, London 1960 p. 181

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Again by Robb Engineering Co Ltd - The locomotive “Maria Theresa” was built in 1897 for the W&NFR by Robb Engineering & Co., Ltd., Amherst. President D. W. Robb is seated at the throttle; standing behind him are Emile Charles Stehelin and (perhaps) Emile Jean, his oldest son. Although the locomotive is on iron rails in the factory yard, it was designed to run on rails constructed from wood logs, 20–30 feet long, squared on three sides and laid with the rounded side up.



More info on the railroad it ran on here - this poleroad for one seems to have had switches! ( remember the discussion we had on here a few years ago?) 
 http://yarmouthhistory.ca/yarmouthhistory/Albums/Pages/Remains_of_Nova_Scotias_New_France.html#2
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HOLY S$%T! That little pole loco just begs to be modeled. Who's first?

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It looks badly designed

Cadillac keep the front low so you can see where you're going



There's a lot of roadhogs out there !

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Whatever they were smoking/drinking/injecting I want some!.
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Well, in the 19th century they probably first indulged in absinthe before tackling the construction board, and maybe they got acquainted with Fitz Hugh Ludlow, so grass may have been en vogue also. That may have led to the assumption that a slanted boiler would give more steam per sqft. of flue surface.

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The trucks with the VERY closely spaced wheels sure are an oDdiTy !


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Si. wrote: The trucks with the VERY closely spaced wheels sure are an oDdiTy !


:bg:


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And the rest is all so perfectly normal.......
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Woodie: pole railroads are ideally suited for RC... and the trackwork does not need to be totally perfect. Between this and the Maumee RR... Decisions. decisions.
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If deburring removes burrs, do decisions remove cisions?

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Jose, yes...r/c would permit building a pole road loco which would run on real peeled logs! I have thought about an old Class A Climax pole loco but then would I be building this just to prove it could be done (it certainly can) or do I want to work on the layout I have now (even with a foray into bull-dozing)...?
Decisions...cisions...

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Chuff without the puff ! :old dude:


Overhead electric powered steam locomotive !!


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Now I know what to do with the spare catenary I have in my parts bin!
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During WWII, when there was a coal shortage in Switzerland, but electrical power abounded of course, two switchers were equipped with a transformer that had a secondary ouput of 20V, and two electric cookers on the running boards. The current was 12000A, so there were 480kVA = 620hp available. The locos were operated that way until 1951, when the coal situation returned to normal, and lasted in regular SBB service until 1963.

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pipopak wrote: Woodie: pole railroads are ideally suited for RC... and the trackwork does not need to be totally perfect. Between this and the Maumee RR... Decisions. decisions.
Jose. 

Stay tuned - photos just  might magically appear here after Easter.... (now where's that "I've got a secret" emoticon??)

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This would be perfect for me (post 122).  I've got a HO Plymouth that needs to be converted to 35n2 and the body should be easy to build.  Everything is simple, straight (well, kinda), and boxy.  Any mistakes I make will simply add to the 'charm' of the engine.

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Pacific Electric diesels were equipped with trolley poles to activate the signal system.

http://www.pacificelectric.org/pacific-electric/northern-district/1321-freight-service/


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" Si, This would be perfect for me (post 122).
I've got a HO Plymouth that needs to be converted to 35n2 and the body should be easy to build.
Everything is simple, straight (well, kinda), and boxy.
Any mistakes I make will simply add to the 'charm' of the engine."


Hi Michael :wave:

ARH ! ... The 'Redneck Rolls Royce' huh ?
Well, even my Tri-ang Railways(TM) steeple-cab has more RIVETS than that ! ;)

Could be a good 'prototype' to choose Michael.
There's certainly not much there that the 'pickers & counters' could sink their teeth into !
If they tried, I think those suckers would end up with a mouth full of splinters. :bg:

The charm of the engine is indeed there in SPADES !
I think real wood, as opposed to styrene would be called for.
Somehow actual wood, does a really good job of looking like ... well ... WOOD.


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Perhaps some health & safety worrying SPLINTERING effects !

( make sure they are EXACTLY to scale though ! )


I'd say, give the damn pickers & counters a run for their MONEY !


GO FOR IT ! !



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Si,

I've styrene for the frame and wood for the body.  Construction starts tonight!

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Making progress.




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Making slow but steady progress.





Looks a little like a steeple cab, but with a little funky home-built feel.

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A little more progress.  Gotta finish up the roof and add a few details like horn, bell, and lights.  She's been named 'Trooper' because she keeps rolling along like a real trooper.




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She's getting there! A critter with character fer sure.

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Maybe it shows, but I never drew out any kind of plan for the critter.  I worked off of one photograph, some guesstimations, and what I thought it should look like.  As long as it works I'm happy.

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Hi Michael :wave:


Well ... You certainly gave me a SHOCK :shocked: with the colour-scheme !

Royal Mail
London double-decker bus
Ferrari red !


It's the kinda vehicle which the crowds at Silverstone
would have loved to see Michael Schumacher start the British Grand Prix in every year !


Who knows ? ... DOES it contain an F1 engine ?
I think one would fit !
'Prancing Horse' decal on the 'nose' maybe ? L:


;)


Si.


Screw the engine anyway ... it's all about 'mechanical grip' & aerodynamics ! ;)

We know the 'aero-package' is less than optimum...
...so how's the 'mechanical' grip' ?

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I took the weights out to make room for the engineer, and possibly R/C in the future.  I certainly have the room inside since I built a new body.  I may add some lead just for a little extra traction.  I only expect it to pull a few cars anyways.

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I recognize that loco! I believe it is a Swedish critter and I also think that Tom Yorke brought out a kit for the thing! All I know is that I have seen a kit somewhere...cool as hell! Neat thing to build, carry on.

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Didn't know he put out a kit for this.  A little expensive at $125.  I might have spent $20 total for everything including the Plymouth engine.  Most of the materials I already had on hand.

http://tomyorkegn15emporium.blogspot.com/

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Installed an exhaust stack, small lights on each end, horn and clanger bell.



I think I'll declare this project finished. 


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Okay, so you'll need two car kits, and something for a chain drive.  On the right-hand side underneath the 'pilot' it looks like there are a couple of bags...maybe for added ballast?

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Those flanges look scary small. :w:

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Hi Alwin :wave:


You know what ?

Dunno if I'm CRAZY or not ?

Perhaps the 'clue' is the sawmill business.


But WHY does it have TWELVE wheels ?


Are those wheels actually made of WOOD ?? :shocked:


What do you think guys ?

They do look a bit 'oDd' in the photo !


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this speeder was most probably designed by
O. (Olly) W. Smith
he used 3-axle trucks for maximum adhesion on the tramway rails. In detail, the trucks looked like this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/51227209@N03/22078046335/in/photostream/

 He also built a rail tractor – a twelve wheel drive machine - which worked from 1954 to 1974 on various trams at Mamaku between the forests and the old G. A. Gamman & Co. saw mill, now closed.


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If you want to make wooden wheels how taking a spool of thread and cutting the spool itself in half.  Many tread spools are made of wood and the edge of the spool would provide the flange.  Would have to be radio controlled; maybe a challenge for Woodie?

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Don't forget the 'Pliobond' ;)


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Aww, that ain't a challenge for me! It's somebody else's challenge.
Wooden wheels...who'd a thunk it?

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Wooden wheels!. What's next?. STEAM???
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They used wheel treads wider than normal to allow for operation on wooden rails, too. The flanges, being of normal depth, look shallower in comparison to the wide tread. Wooden wheels were not used on tractors. Have a look at 1982 operations.

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Hi Helmut :wave:

STELLA research as usual ! :bg:

I figure the link to the awesome 'weird-wheel' pics. has gotta be worth...

... :brill: :brill: :brill: :brill: 4 Einsteins ! ;)

Certainly it is excellent to see that funky-junk in close up !! :cool:


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I swore an oath to my Psychiatrist & Bank Manager ... NO MORE KITS ! :f:

I just meant during MARCH though. ;) :bg:

The VISA-card SWAT-team are on route to my place as we speak ! :shocked:

Even Jose must agree, just a couple more small kits is OK ? right ?

The kit 'pile' might go up by a couple of inches...

...but hey, it's nearly Christmas !

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Oliver Wallace Smith was born in Motu in 1907 and left school aged 12 to work at a variety of rural jobs. It was while working as a truck driver for the road cartage firm of Goodsons at Rotorua that he first made contact with the Mamaku sawmills. Seeing potential, Olly bought his own truck and began carting timber from Gamman's sawmill at mamaku to Waikato destinations. At that time a 30-mile (50 km) limit applied to the distance a road transport operator could carry goods in competition with NZ Railways. In collusion with Gammon's manager, Alex Simmonds, Olly got around this restriction by painting Gamman's name on his truck and so began a very profitable venture. However with the outbreak of war, restrictions on motor vehicle operations were increased by the introduction of petrol rationing, and in September 1939, Olly fund himself with his 1937 Chevy truck and nowhere to go.

About that time, Gamman's ex-NZR 'D' lokey broke down. It took the men out to the bush in a van, and Olly persuaded Alex that instead of repairing the lokey, the Chevy should become a Jigger. As converted it carried 22 men in the back and two in the cab. He also used the jigger when Gamman's big Price Ar lokey broke down, his jigger being able to pull two sets of logs from the bush.

The steam locomotive continued to give trouble so Olly constructed his first rail tractor. Using an old Chev truck, it was relatively crude with a bogie in front and railway wheels fitted to the rear axle, called 4-A configuration. Logs rested on a bolster over the driving axle, improving adhesion. Later another rail tractor was built with a lead bogie and two driven rear wheels to improve the adhesion and wheel bearing problems.

This formed the basis of his designs from there on with some tractors being built to the 4-C combination where there were six driving wheels at the rear.

In all, from 1939 to 1954, Olly Smith built 19 tractors, including tankers and crane trucks, and rebuilt six of these into more powerful units.

By the 1960s, the milling operations at Mamaku were all but over and most of Olly's handiwork was lying under blackberry bushes. Gamman's closed in 1964, while the NZR tram remained in service until closing in 1974.

Olly Smith died in 1993. One of his creations is on display by the roadside at Mamaku while a few others reside, in various states, at odd museums.






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Now that one wins the ODD prize!

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Very nice lettering for a backwoods vehicle.

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Another one where watching the wheels go round is a large part of the appeal.

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I'll be durned!!

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Plaster City  c.1947





This rather neat 'stretch-limo' double-ender has of course been up before.

But hey ... Here she is again ! :P


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The title of the above should be "PLASTERED CITY Circa 1947"
......hic......

OK Si, how about building a model of this "thing"...
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Howdy Woodie :cb:


Well, since you asked !

I was gonna keep the new M.M.M. 'TOP SECRET' research-project HUSH HUSH for a bit longer.

But it looks like the cat could be outta the bag ! :shocked:


I do have enough projects already ... But hey, this is long term back-woods/mines development !! :P


The stretch-limo job is toootaly coool ... but a bit long for a potential shelf layout ! :f:

Olly Smiths N.Z. Chevy lash-up however could be a winner !!

You think I've been investigating 'chain-drive' cos I got nuttin' better to do ? ;)


I have in fact been looking at possible donor-cars/trucks for an Olly Smith lash-up, for about a year now !

I really have looked at almost EVERYTHING that could be practical & possible for a funky-forestry/mining double-ender.

In the end, I came up with this ...



I looked at all kinds of older style cars, basically with running-boards.

Some nice possibilities.

I thought about a Ford-AA job, OK but not quite right for me.

I was after the late '30s kinda 'streamlined' new car look of that time & after.

The best I could find, is the car above ^^ .


I actually have the Olly Smith Chevy truck ( more or less ) as a Tamiya 1:35 kit.

Problem is, it was used by the S.A.S in the WWII desert, & doesn't have any roof or doors. :f:


I stuck my neck ( & wallet ! ) out last week...

...found a good deal for the Black Car ^^ on eBay ... and POUNCED !! :cool:


The bodywork is on the ol' cutting-mat as we speak !

+ I get yet another 1:35 engine to mess with as well.

Or TWO engines in fact, cos I'm gonna need TWO Black Cars !! :cool: :cool:


I like it ! ... I might just buy a 2nd one this week !! :bg:


:moose:


Si.


I may have to try an 8-wheeled version.

The 12-wheeler does work out to be a bit kinda longish ! ? :f:

Mmm... ??? :!: L:


Looking at Olly Smiths 1+1 'glue ( weld ? ) job' at the top of the Page ^^...

...he's done a damn fine job of stickin' 'em together !

I can't see the join !! :us:


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Another fairly oDd double-ended railcar . .





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oztrainz wrote: pipopak wrote: Woodie: pole railroads are ideally suited for RC... and the trackwork does not need to be totally perfect. Between this and the Maumee RR... Decisions. decisions.
Jose. 

Stay tuned - photos just  might magically appear here after Easter.... (now where's that "I've got a secret" emoticon??)

Hi all,
Now it can be revealed, as it was at the Australian Narrow Gauge Convention over the Easter weekend
P1240987a by oztrainz, on Flickr

A DAY'S tractor running on wooden rails - battery-powered and radio-controlled.

For information about the prototype (Yes there was at least one of them) check out http://www.alexandratramway.org.au/locomotives_non_steam/days_ex_ruoak.htm

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THERE YA GO! Any mention of the scale? There was a discussion about "pole roads" modeling years ago, I am glad that somebody took it to heart. I am so very glad that this "dark side" doesn't haunt me any more.

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Hi Woodie
Scale is 1/43, gauge is a scale 3'6".

I'll kick off a separate thread for this layout in a few days time in the Logging and Mining section. I have a few more photos to go with the previous one :bg:

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The Kiwi wooden rails operations are perfect for our overscale, deep-flanged model wheels, aren't they? Open-hearth size matchsticks may become short in supply in some areas once the idea gets hold....

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Youtube video of WoodNdays
https://youtu.be/LcaA1TKVaYo

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Trust the Prof to do it!! :moose::moose:

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Yes Ken, he beat me.

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Looking through my 'scale lumber' collection...

...I see that 'toffee-apple sticks' could be perfect rail lengths in 1:35


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Hey y'all, dig this, a Swiss railroad bridge folds to clear avalanche path; there's one I didn't see coming, and yet it is so logical and sensible.
Next thought, "Look ma, just like a garden railway!"

"Remarks & Notes Snow clearance on the Furka pass line of the Dampfbahn Furka Bergstrecke (DFB). The Steffenbach bridge, which is folded down during the winter to give the avalanches a free path, is ready for assembling in a few days."

http://www.railpictures.net/ photo/616487

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Hmmm, wooden rail tramway,just think of the time saved not having to clean wheels and the money saved ,not having to by track cleaning rubbers......just a thought.....:2t::2t:Peter

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So the future of model railroading lies deep in the past... A question to ponder while pretending to work.
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Wouldn't a lift bridge work just as well?

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Corrected link:
http://www.railpictures.net/photo/616487
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Would you really want to be that guy who is in the slot shoveled into snow, when the temperatures are rising?

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On the Professor's wooden rail layout, does anyone have an idea what "Crickey Cam" technology is ?



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Found another candidate:
https://robertpiers.tumblr.com/image/130819324428
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Hi Jose :wave:



That is one of the BEST ' oDdiTy oF tHe dAy ' so far !

BUCKET LOADS of character in 'Old Betsey' !!


Love that tender.

The stack being at the rear, more like 'donkey engine styleee' is nice.


I could be IN LOVE with Ol' Betsey. ;)


Keep up the stella research Jose.

When yer HOT ... Yer sure can pick 'em !!



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The Swiss 'drop down' avalanche-proof bridge is T O O C O O L as well. :bg:

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"BUCKET LOADS of character in 'Old Betsey' !!"

... looks like a bad kitbash...
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Hi Jose :wave:


I think you're being a bit harsh talkin' about Betsey that way.


I am kinda pleased though ...

... if she is a real prototype & looks like a bad kitbash ...

... then I figure my bad kitbashes, must look like really cool prototypes !!


There is a certain 'logic' in that ... somewhere ... Capt. Kirk.


It's steam Jim, but not as we know it ! ;)


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.... and a Shay with a curious tender:

https://68.media.tumblr.com/16e34e205c558c2eee96af86283a2503/tumblr_o160soZXii1tm4ahpo1_1280.jpg

Harbor Springs Railroad logging train, Harbor Springs, Michigan, circa 1902-12.
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"... then I figure my bad kitbashes, must look like really cool prototypes !!"

I have some that belong in a chamber of horrors...

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Jose, that COULD be an original Ephiram Shay loco...looks like it could be and he lived in Harbor Springs...one thing, his "Baby"-the first Shay loco was built way back in the 1880's I believe...CHECK THE FACTS! But that little tender with a pair of geared trucks is certainly cool as homemade s$%t !

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Here, have a couple more (may or may mot be the same loco):

Harbor Springs Railroad “Hemlock Limited” sightseeing train, Harbor Springs, Michigan, circa 1902-12. Ephraim Shay, the inventor of the Shay locomotive, lived in Harbor Springs, Michigan, and founded the Harbor Springs Railroad:

https://robertpiers.tumblr.com/image/136972649268

Harbor Springs Railroad excursion train, Harbor Springs, Michigan, circa 1906:

https://robertpiers.tumblr.com/image/137691827253

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How about Mad Max?

http://maxdetsh.deviantart.com/art/Mad-Max-3-Beyond-Thunderdome-Train-scene-11-643720754

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That 2nd soooper-vintage Shay photo is TOOO COOOL ! :bg:


The driving trucks are pretty interesting ...

... I like the real old-school wooden-framed excursion-car trucks as well.



- - - - - -



HOLY COW !

Never realized they used one of Joses kitbashes in Mad Max ! ;)


Keep up the good work Jose ...

... I mean the tooo coool vintage oDdiTy oF tHe dAy research ...

... NOT the chamber of horrors Mad Max kitbashes !! ;) ;)



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Never realized they used one of Joses kitbashes in Mad Max

My natural modesty prevents me from bragging about it...
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If your line doesn't have a double-ended railbus ... Get a turntable !



It doesn't have to be HUGE !


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It doesn't even have rails, the bus rides on a strip welded on top of the I beams!.
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That's about as simple as you can get for a turntable design.

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How about an event oddity - no, I did not look through 22 pages to see if it might already have been posted.
"The aftermath of a boiler explosion near Oslo Norway, 1893. One locomotive was thrown into the air and landed on the roof of another; the crews of both escaped without injury[1]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiler_explosion
footnote 1 goes to period documentation here
https://archive.org/stream/locomotiveengine10hill/locomotiveengine10hill#page/408/mode/1up

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If you scroll down a bit, there's a nice picture of a pole road loco
and for those who want to stick by their Märklin, albeit with a solid 3rd rail

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Just found another nice example of all wooden rails with an iron turntable-cum-turnout. Note the angle-iron inner lining.

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Ingenuity for sure.

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The accompanying illustration shows an oil burning steam locomotive which has a number of features which adapt it particularly to sugar plantation work. One of these is the fewness of working parts, ...http://www.gearedsteam.com/bell/articles/an_oil_burning_locomotive/an_oil_burning_locomotive.htm
This information was transcribed from the article entitled "An Oil Burning Locomotive" that appeared on page 158 of the April, 1914 issue of Sugar.    

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I like the V flume!

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Great photo Helmut ! :bg:


Elevated railroads ... always a favorite of mine.


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Carson turntable 1950





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Believe that's a Baldwin cast iron table.


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Looks like that turntable has seen better days.  Still it shouldn't be too hard to build a reasonable copy in almost any scale.  Should at least provide some inspiration.

The V&T has always been a favorite of mine.  Been to Virginia City (the real Virginia City...not what you've seen on Bonanza) a number of times.

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The Ma and Pa had a similar design turntable at Delta, PA. It was usable into the mid-'60's at least since I shot a pic of a steam fan trip loco on it in that time period.

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Another similar turntable design.





:)


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  Sellers Turntable in use Sonsanate  El Salvador 2001

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Wrong photo still interesting 


Sellers Turntable in service Sonsanate  El Salvador  2001.

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  A couple of more photos from Sonsanate El Salvador.
  The shop engine started life as a NG 4-4-0, two belt driven Lathes stored in front of engine. The boilers were used in the steam plant for the shops in Sonsanate.

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  Second photo of former 4-4-0 shop engine.

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Hi Ken :wave: Eh!


A couple of great photos !!

The converted loco - shop engine, is a real neat prototype.


A U.P. Big Boy version could be interesting. ;)


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A UP Big Boy might be an overkill, have a On30 2-6-0 with a blown gear on my list to convert, way to many other on going projects at present.

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" have a On30 2-6-0 with a blown gear "


YEAH ! :f:


Tell me about it Ken !


Most people seem to ...

... including ME !!


:f: :f:


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I think this qualifies as an    o D d i T y    ?  

 L:




Sorry Jose ... It doesn't actually run on track ...

... It has it's own tracks !


Introducing the Ford Model-T (for) TANK !!


The top-brass check it out ...

... Before it gets 'The A-Team' armour-plating treatment ...

... and DIY howitzer. :shocked:


:Salute:


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Hi all,
I found this one in my "photo archive" - a V-tip skip having an identity crisis...about how far the wheels should be apart :)



and from end-on


Anyone confused as much as this skip appears to be??

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Don't know about the wheels but that short turntable in the background looks interesting.  Looks like there might be some kind of locking device to keep the rails aligned.

The V-tip skip looks to be of simple and basic construction.  I see brakes there but not sure how they are activated.

When see real interesting critters in this thread makes me want to build more for my own line.

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Hi Michael, 
If your are into turntables, try this re-gauged one



A little closer



and its parentage



3'6" gauge tracks in the deck and 2'gauge on the deck - It is a long way from "home"

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Recycling at it's finest...
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Very neat!  Thanks for the photos!  It almost looks like it's sitting in someone's backyard.

That turntable would be simple to make, and could be placed almost anywhere to turn short critters.

I feel a new project coming on.

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If you happen to have a shelf layout ...

... where a sudden change of direction is needed in a tight corner !  ;)






:Crazy:



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Looks like a sector plate.  I thought only model railroaders made those.

Can't tell for sure if it's narrow gauge or standard but I like it.  Takes up much less room than a switch (turnout).

Where was this taken?

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Yep ! ... Sector plates DO 'really' exist ! :shocked:

Not sure where the photo was taken. L:



In the world of turntable ... o D d i T y S ... Ch. Ch. Check this out ...






:us:



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Good grief!. Wow!. That is odd!. Would have been A LOT easier to run a straight line to the enginehouse.Jose.

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It looks like it might be part of the Panama Canal.  It uses locomotives to pull the ships through the locks.

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This setup is used at both ends of the Gatun locks of the Panama Canal at the end of the central pier.

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Well spotted guys !

Can't get many   o D d i T y S   past your sharp I.D.ing ! :brill:



:)



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Is that a moddified R127 they've got there ? L:  ;)


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Today found this. Most likely just a drawing, but Oh the possibilities!
http://theleugueofsillyenginesa.tumblr.com/image/164528505905
BTW what does it say there?
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It's a baby Rail-Zeppelin :bg:

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The Hélica by Marcel LEYAT did exist and info maybe found at http://www.helica.info/modele.htm

Voie Libre, the French model railroad magazine, had a two part article and plans on how to build one.
The magazine is available in English in paper and digital form.

Info at:
http://trains.lrpresse.com/A-17302-voie-libre-international-87.aspx 

http://trains.lrpresse.com/A-17303-voie-libre-international-88.aspx

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Is that a headlight on the front of the prop?

If you can get your hands on one of those RC gasoline powered motors I'll bet you could really get that critter to fly!

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Probably with the same amount of control that the prototype had...
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As you can see here ( it is just one of several videos you can find ) control isn't that bad. This contraption has been inspired by the 'Flyers' offered by LGB some 20 years ago.

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And who else remembers the Atlas prop-powered rail zippers?Jose.

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... and here comes the Great Meat Grinderrrr!!!

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The 'Tri-ang Railways' (TM) BATTLE SPACE ! Turbo Cars. :shocked:












;)



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Now Si's latest post has possibilities. The  one with the prop would have trouble at night, when the cord to the headlight got wound tight and broke.

Then again, it might be a carbide light .

Then again, again, that would have trouble also, wouldn't it?

So then, buckets of D cells.

Any body coming up with that thing would never think of slip rings, would they?

As to that Tri-ang Abortion----please DO NOT show that to the Main Moose!!

If I built something with a prop, it would be an Aeronca Champ--but wrong forum for that.

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Nope - doesn't take some skydivers. I'd rather prefer a CS170. Had some nice jumps out of it (8000'), although the space is rather cramped- but can't have a Pilatus Porter all the time!

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Si. wrote: The 'Tri-ang Railways' (TM) BATTLE SPACE ! Turbo Cars. :shocked:




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Even by Triang Railways (TM) "standards" that is RIDICULOUS. Maybe they should have the whole hog and badged it as something by the GWR (Gremlins We Run).

Presumably that is what finally drove Rovex Corp out of business.

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You certainly are a multi-talented person! I always wanted to jump, but in the free-fall part I would be like a kid on a trip. Before getting to the chute opening height, I would have both hands on the ring, yelling "are we there yet? are we there yet ?  I have enough fun playing with the stick and rudder pedals. Best I don't jump out of a perfectly good aircraft.

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I FOUND ANOTHER ONE!!!:

http://shitty-car-mods-daily.tumblr.com/image/167294933256

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Goodness, that dude must have lost some fingers doing the perv...er conversion of that leetle car. Maybe he's wearing a helmet so he won't lose his head also? Or maybe he doesn't want to be recognized?

Whatta hoot!!!
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How about a go-cart on rails???   :glad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7buTCULLeY


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BBC's "TopGear" boys set up something, too.

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How to shovel the coal? :us: :brill:

http://www.trainsarefun.com/rvrr/images/sirt10_2-4-4-4TJosephASmithcollection.jpg

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A fitting loco for the Oscar and Piker...
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" A fitting loco for the Oscar and Piker... "





Hi Jose. :wave:



I hope you're keeping warm down there in Florida ! :cool:

B. FREEZING here !! :w:



What on earth is the Oscar & Piker ? ???



L:



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Hi Si:
the most ridiculous train set ever: 
https://www.walthers.com/21-heavyweight-quot-oscar-quot-quot-piker-quot-set-ready-to-run-pullman
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Hi Jose. :wave:



Well it must be true then ...

... There's a prototype for everything ! ;)

( well nearly everything anyway !! ) :shocked:


Oscar & Piker huh ? :dope:

It must be true as well then ...

... You learn a new thing every day ! :f:





Oh $4!7 ... I forgot their names. ???

Which one's Oscar ?

They haven't actually 'named' the cars in the 'realistic road livery' sets. :f:

I nearly choked on my corn-flakes when I saw the U.P. decaled pack. :shocked: :shocked:



Possibly related to 'Clarabel & Annie' ?





Close, but NO CIGAR ! :P


I think I may have found a diesel loco option, to add to that perfect steamer of yours !





Maybe something for overhead fans as well. :!:





I see now, 'Oscar' is sans balcony & with end of car rest-room !

Good to know !!



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Double deck gas-electric anyone ? ( Irish broad gauge)


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Hi all
L: Be careful when having a stretch on the top deck.
Where is that "ZAPP!!" emoticon when you need it? :)

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OK, what are those round balls on sticks, on floor two? Static electricity collectors for propulsion economy? Eagle perches?

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oztrainz wrote: Hi all
L: Be careful when having a stretch on the top deck.
Where is that "ZAPP!!" emoticon when you need it? :)

They ran on a steam tramway(Dublin & Blessington), so no problem with overhead wires.
But quite a lot of British tramways ran open top cars with no roof and with overhead. 


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