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 Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2014 04:06 pm
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My name is Steve. I have been around this forum for about 4 years. But have not posted much. I have recently moved to a new house were I actually have a room (or dungeon space in the basement), where I can have a train room again. Our last house I had a closet under the basement stairs. So I just call that one practice for having a real layout now.

My last layout was while I was in High School in the early 80s. It was 4 x 6 plywood. I have been dragging my train supplies around the world (literally) for the last 30 years or so.

My room is 12 x 13. I have been working on the plan for about the last 2-3 months since I knew we were buying this house. The plan was made in SCARM. I had posted it on the Whistle Post site about a week or so before it dropped off the face of the earth. I made a few changes since then. I am looking for a web home for my layout and have always appreciated what I have seen and read on Free Rails. I have been in on several Sunday night chats.

So here it is: Imelville is a freelance stretch of track in Iowa running from the town of Imelville to the near by bio-fuel plant. It will have things that I have seen around central and northwestern Iowa where graineries and biofuel are the skyline and fields of corn and beans are everywhere. It will be modern era.

It will be continuous run with the option of doing point to point from the town to the bio-fuel plant. My 7 year old daughter likes the watch the trains go around (as do I). The point-to-point option is a recent addition as it was suggested when I posted an earlier version of the layout plan several weeks ago.

Any suggestions are welcome. The mainline will be 22" radius. The turn outs going off the mainline are #4 switches mostly (as that is what I already have). It will be DC only as cost needs to be kept down. And I understand and have everything I need to run DC. I will probably only be running one train at a time anyway.

Thanks for looking,
Steve (fullquiver)

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 Posted: Sat Oct 18th, 2014 02:57 am
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I have made some changes to the original plan. Some things I like better. I'm not sure I like the entrance better yet.

Any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks,
Steve

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 Posted: Sat Oct 18th, 2014 10:50 am
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Hi Steve

Interesting plan.

I think it looks kinda 'Lance Mindheim' ish.

I must be the last person in the world to have seen this dudes stuff...

...but he did make me think (a bit).

He has a lot to say in particular, about fairly minimalist, realistic operation layout plans.

(some people hate the guy as well !)

Check him out on the WWW if you havn't seen his stuff.

Cheers.

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 Posted: Sat Oct 18th, 2014 12:39 pm
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Thanks, Si. I have heard Lance Mindheim's name a number of times on various forums. I just looked at his site and realized I have a number of the publications he has written for. I will have to go back and look at them again. I also read MRH and we he has quite a few articles there too.

Thanks for the comparison. :bg:

I am aiming for a simple (minimalist), open approach for an Iowa prairie look. I think my town is still a bit crowded though. I may adjust that as it goes though.

Steve

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 Posted: Sat Oct 18th, 2014 02:15 pm
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Looks interesting Steve. As my dad and grandparents were from Webster City and relatives in Fort Dodge and Cherokee I am always interested in anything from Iowa.



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My opinion worth less than 2¢...

I'd angle the track along the top side having the curve hug the front of the upper right corner a bit more offering a potential location for a siding between the river and that corner.

As the track comes around the upper left corner and into town I'd set main and associated passing siding and the entire town at an angle so that the track crosses you're walk-in entrance about where the road curves and drops off...

... then flip everything along the bottom wall so the main is in the foreground and the industries are in the background with the track in front of them so the action can be seen.

Whenever I did play indoors I always attempted to have my track work at some sort of angle to the straight lines of the benchwork to break up the parallel lines that would otherwise exist.

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 Posted: Mon Oct 20th, 2014 08:33 pm
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Thanks, Dwayne. I had read a lot about keeping the track offset from the edge. In Iowa road and rails tend to run straight north/southo or east/west. So i kind of felt keeping it parralel helped give it that feel. I also was trying to break it up some by having the shelf different sizes in various areas. I will try looking at the track slightly offset. I just have to get my computer to work now. It crashed yesterday and I can't even get it to start up. I may have to redo all the plan again. . . once I get it working.

I originally had the bottom area flipped and moved it to what you see now so as to have the crossing closer to the entry. I was also aiming for longer mainline track. If I can recover (or redo) the plan I will take a look at flipping it back.

Again, thanks for the input. Now I just need my computer back. . . I think the windows update may have killed it. Or it has just worn out. :sad:



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 Posted: Tue Oct 21st, 2014 12:34 am
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Been to Iowa often as my job takes me all over the US & Canada. Regardless of outsiders advice do what makes you happy. That's all that matters. And have fun doing it. :)



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 Posted: Fri Oct 24th, 2014 05:52 pm
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So many times when someone sets out to plan a continuous run layout they neglect to allow for other operational possibilities.

I really like what you have done here. It is a really nice continuous run layout, but it can be run as a point-to-point when the fit takes you.

I can see your point about running parallel when doing a prairie themed layout. I like different angles, but I live here in Puget Sound country where nothing is straight and level.

I also like shelf layouts. It keeps the action close. It was a treat last night watching my five-year old grandson walking along beside the train.

A couple of things: I would take another look at the sidings to see if they could be modified so each serves multiple industries. That approach gives you the biggest bang for your buck in terms of the expense and complications of turnouts. I have learned to keep my turnout count down.

In doing your wiring, keep DCC in the back of your mind. I originally started wiring my current layout DC because I have multiple power packs, rolls of wire, and boxes of DPDT toggle switches, and that is what I have always done in the past. After wiring about 1/4 of the layout DC, I realized that DCC would work really well. I had a few sheckles saved up, so went DCC. While DCC has a few challenges of its own, it works a lot better than DC. The wiring is actually simpler, given the cost of wire and toggle switches it is actually less expensive, and running multiple locomotives is a lot easier.

The caveat is that three of my six locomotives (I originally planned the layout for only two. You know how that goes) were purchased with DCC decoders installed. The other three will need to be converted. I haven't tackled that task yet.

The challenges? Making sure each stretch of track has adequate signal. Track and wheels must be sparkling clean. You cannot rely on turnout points to carry power. Learning how to program the decoders.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2014 05:46 pm
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Ok. I have reworked the plan a bit. And I have a new computer. So now maybe I can get back to this.

I have the fuel plant area both ways. And I think I have tweeked the town area a bit more. One thing I realized the other day, is that with about a 27-30 long spur tracks for parking tankers or grain cars, I will only get three cars per section. I was hoping for about four. I just won't have that much room. So, "compression" will be the word for the day. . . .

Any more thoughts on the plan? Better or worse. I am starting on the framing. I actually have the back (or top) section in place . Just need to add the left and right and level. I will start another thread in the HO section later with some picks for the rest of the build process.

Thanks for looking.

Steve

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