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 Posted: Fri Jan 2nd, 2015 01:36 pm
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It was what I was brought up on, Martin. When I was 14 at the local club, the old boys used it and it was a revelation to me. I've used it ever since, but it's getting more difficult to find. You have to go to pharmaceutical suppliers for it.
There is a section of British scenic people who stick it fur down then rip off the backing!
Crazy waste of time and material. Stick it cloth side down, that way you don't lose any fur. Colour it with matt enamel or emulsion paints, then tease it all up with a suede brush when the paint's set. For larger areas the old boys used to dye it, but I can't be messing with al that faff when there's always paint around. You can trim it with an old electric shaver or scissors, or you can flatten it into sheep runs and footpaths with a model car wheel on a stick.
I like the way it can be combed over the edges of paths and roads. Matt varnish or cheap hairspray will fix it, but I've never bothered with that and it's stayed fine. That sea wall scene above was the work of an evening and was done 20-odd years ago.

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Martin, not that long in modeling, in the 5th year right now. So I don't have seen lint, and brought up with a grassmaster..yeah then you know..Although I have seen a couple of good looking layouts using faj=ke fur and so on the Warley show I personaly think that the use of a grassmaster gives a more natural feel (proper used) combined in the hard to reach areas with grassmats and these tree stuff Silflor / Mininatur has..



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Oh, it's certainly effective. Your moorland areas are quite stunning.
I have a bug bat to try converting. No way I'd spend all that on a Grassmaster! I guess that's the result of my having spent rather more than 5 years in the hobby! It's made me a tight wad. Fake fur is something I also used a LONG time ago and was never quite happy with it.

The Holy Grail is still stinging nettles...and no, I ain't about to cut paper leaves with a knife!

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Stinging nettles explain ?

Don't expect from anyone to buy a grasmaster right away, thing ain't cheap if you want a decent one. But on the other hand, seen to many people when demonstrating static grass saying that's way to expencive, walk on to the next shop owner and walk away with 3 large Mininatur mats worth 225 euros or the next train for 400...it's all about choices..



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Stinging nettles...you must have them in Holland!
I'd send you a picture, but it keeps saying it's too big even after halving its size.

I would never spend those amounts on anything to do with model railways, Martin, so bug bat it'll have to be.
I don't spend, I make.

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Martin,

These are stinging nettles, they hurt if you touch them:



They are not impossible to replicate, just time-consuming.

Can you explain how you created the lush foliage beside the track, thank you.

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I couldn't send that very picture!
That's the kind of time-consuming that is effectively impossible by hand.
Guess I'll have to wait for the laser guys to do them.

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Martin I do believe anyone has to do what he want to also in what they want to spend on MRR..

Didn't Gordon Gravett show nettles in his latest book about grasslands..shall see if I can find it back..

Tim, this lush foliage was created with somekinda filter material called Wooly / Decotwister, cut in small pieces glued on the layout and sprinkled with fine turf or scatter material..



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Martin,
yes, Gordon did indeed do nettles in that book (I got it for Christmas) and they were woefully unsatisfactory. They actually looked nothing like nettles. They could have been anything at all, really. Just tall (ish) plants of a greenish colour. Not good enough for such a common, but distinctive plant.

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What scale do you like to model them ? Never tried it but I would like to give it a try..



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