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 Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2015 03:05 pm
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Thanks Helmut,  correction made.

Although any Greek that took a look at me would likely figure that what ever he had in mind wasn't worth the effort.

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 Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2015 05:46 pm
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Well, it's been too cool here for the plaster to really dry dry.

So....... Genius or Stupid ....

I put the whole thing in the oven set it to bake at 150 and once it reached 150, shut it off to slow cool.

Looks like it may work .... Just don't tell the wife. :dope:



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 Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2015 09:14 pm
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Well, the paint came out a bit darker and reder than I had hoped for, but all in all I think it looks ok.

Lots of little touch ups to do from the track and stuff nicking it and I need a really matt spray paint to kill off the slight glossiness, but otherwise I think it's about ready for some basic ground cover and nailing the track down.

Then I need to figure out how to build tresels into it.

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 Posted: Sat Mar 28th, 2015 04:09 pm
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Looking good George.
It takes time for plaster to dry. For painting it's not that bad if it's not dry, the paint will even flow better and the plaster don't absorb all the paint at once.

How did you get the paint to look glossy? Normaly the texture of the plaster prevents any glossiness (that's my personal experience).

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 Posted: Sat Mar 28th, 2015 11:18 pm
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Alwin wrote:
Looking good George.
It takes time for plaster to dry. For painting it's not that bad if it's not dry, the paint will even flow better and the plaster don't absorb all the paint at once.

How did you get the paint to look glossy? Normaly the texture of the plaster prevents any glossiness (that's my personal experience).

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Hi Alwin,
It's not super glossy, it just has a bit of shine here and there.
From what I'm thinking now, I didn't thin the paint enough, so the colors went darker than expected and have that bit of sheen.

Debating if I want to do a white wash and see if I can alter and lighten and change the color to more of a gray rock instead of the heavy earth tone



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 Posted: Tue Mar 31st, 2015 01:29 am
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Hi George.

Instead of 'white washing'...
...if you want to go over with a somewhat lighter colour...
...leave the darker one under it.

You will get great 'deep shadows'...
...under the midtone.
Following that an even lighter slight 'dry-brushing' gives even more depth.

A lot of realy good model-figure painters...
...'prime' the figure with black/dark-grey...
...applying 'highlights' as the very last step, on the most raised surfaces.

All the best.

Cheers.

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Si. wrote:


A lot of realy good model-figure painters...
...'prime' the figure with black/dark-grey...
...applying 'highlights' as the very last step, on the most raised surfaces.

All the best.

Cheers.

Si.


Hi Si,
Yes, I thought about using what I have as under painting and dry brushing in lighter colors.

But after more thought, I opted for a more insanly risky method.
I'll go over the details soon as I take some photos.



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Ok, so after staring at the Dog Poo brown of my paint job and knowing that wasn't the "look" I was going after, I weighed my options.

I thought Dry Brushing in high lights would just be adding more paint and would move me further away from the natural look that plaster has when the colors are soft.

So I opted for a more risky solution ... Try to Wire Brush off the paint and try again. If the paint is largely on the surface it could work, if it was deeply stained I could be in for trouble.

So I went at it with several wire brushes.

Some notes:

1. After a week, the Carving plaster really is hard as rock.
2. Some paint was easy to remove and some was not.
3. It won't all come off.
4. Several sizes of wire brushes helps.
5. Tons of dust.

While scraping away with the wire brush I got tons of now colored Plaster everywhere ... But I also noticed the plaster dust really muted the colors (even the strong ones) down to something that looked very natural.

So once I had scraped off a ton of paint and I was back to semi white rock faces, I started coloring again, this time diluting the paint far more than before.

As I applied the new colors, the Yellow and Brown tints still seemed bright and "paint like", so I tried something I had read about when weathering trains ... DUST!

Using a large 4" brush I powdered the areas with the grayish plaster powder I had all over the table, me and the floor onto the wet black tint coat that followed the yellow and brown.

The colored plaster dust made for a pretty amazing effect, looking every bit as matt and muted as natural stone. Sadly I lost some of the effect when I put a top coat of Scenic Cement over everything to lock it on.

I think if I could have Dusted over the Semi Wet Scenic Cement it may have kept more of the effect.

After all that I added a bit of turf using the "Fairie Dust" method (blow it gently off a sheet of paper into the glue) so I'd have some starting ground cover. (It's going to be hell getting all this crap off the tracks)

Here's the results so far (poor photo)

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DAMN! That looks pretty good! What you call "making lemonade from lemons"..

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 Posted: Tue Mar 31st, 2015 04:25 pm
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W C Greene wrote:
DAMN! That looks pretty good! What you call "making lemonade from lemons"..

Woodie


Thanks Woodie. Photo is pretty lame, but Ya' it went from lemon to Lemonade for sure.

Now I need to clean and lay the track, do some lumber work and find a couple of nice trees



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