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 Posted: Sun Oct 1st, 2017 07:06 pm
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" I also think there is an argument to be made for planning the topography first,

then thinking up something to fit - exactly like the real thing."



Not a bad way of approaching things Michael.



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For my current layout, 35n2 outside, I've never even thought about putting a track plan on paper.  I do use Atlas track pieces to see what will, or will not, fit on a particular section.  I kinda sorta have an idea on how the layout will look, but I'm building one section at a time so things may change down the road.




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Like so many who have responded to this thread, I too have only a general idea of what will go where. Once I start building, changes may be needed or extensions added to the benchwork. My track layout is determined by laying turnouts and sectional track on the layout.

When designing my HO scale urban layout, I fused over the layout plan down to the last inch. I'm thinking that it depends on just what type of layout you are intending to build. By there very nature, urban settings are much more crowded than rural settings so require more precise planing.

My little Gn15 trains will go around a 6" radius curve as opposed to HO standard gauge needing at least 18" radius curves. This fact makes a huge difference in what will fit.

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After a couple of years thinking about this subject, I'd like to add onto my original post:

It seems to me that there are two things which determine a layout's success:

Having a vision for what the railroad should be, and creating a flexible plan.

Without a vision, the builder will most likely end up with a chaotic layout, if one is built at all.  Without an adaptable plan, the builder will have to start anew with every change that occurs to the layout.

There are numerous plans out there that are well suited for adaptability, and plenty that aren't.  The true challenge of finding a plan for a model railroad is not in creating a railroad that suits your needs now, but one that will suit future needs.  And, of course, your needs are driven by your vision.  And that was precisely my problem, my vision kept changing.  I'd love to model every railroad on every continent, that's how much I love railroads.  But such a layout would be very chaotic and ultimately impossible.

That's what I've spent the last couple of years working on, finding a vision.  I have that now, so the planning can begin.

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James,

Part of that vision would be the purpose of the railroad.  The reason why the thing was built in the first place. 

I opted for a narrow gauge mining railroad railroad (35n2) located in the southwest.  Instead of hauling gold or silver ore the line hauls borax like the 20 Mule Team.  I also found that the line could haul salt from some surface mines. 

So now I have a two-foot narrow gauge line running through the desert hauling borax in ore cars and some bulk salt in modified box cars.  This helps me to define what locomotives and rolling stock I'll need.

Instead of deciding on a 'plan' I'm building the layout in sections and just letting the layout sort of flow on its own.  And since I building outside space really isn't an issue.

It's slowly coming together, and should provide plenty to do along with a lot of fun over many years.



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One bit of "advice" I remember from years back is to decide where you want the railroad to run then imagine (on paper?) what the topography would be and design the track plan to fit the area. Just what really happens. Cuts & fills, canyons, mountains, rivers & creeks, and such may determine what you plan. Now if you opted to build the Southern Pacific narrow gauge then you might have it a bit easier. A fellow once remarked that to model that one, all you need is a few buckets of sand and some flex track to be half-buried in it.
The idea is to think about where you want this railroad to run and imagine the scenery first then the track plan. That works for me...but then I'm crazeee!

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Woodie - you ain't crayzee or 'alone' - see my 8th Post above. Or maybe there's just 2 of us ?

Regards,   Michael

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You can add me to that list of crazeee.

I sometimes step back and look at what I'm building and wonder what have I gotten myself into.



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Looks good to me Michael ! :)





Now ... WHERE'S THE TRACKPLAN ? ! ;)



:moose::moose::moose::moose::moose:



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" Track plan? We don't need no stinkin' track plan!"

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