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 Posted: Tue May 12th, 2015 06:47 pm
   
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Robert Comerford
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Hi Bob, I guess there is little in the way of kits now available in the US. I bought my last Walthers O scale catalogue in the 80's and I suspect most of those items are long gone. :>)
The market seems to be focused on the toy 3-rail buyer.

Like me, mail order might be the only option for you.

Thankfully there is Slaters in the UK.I can usually find a driver to do the job for most of our steamers and make my own kits.
NWSL and Intermountain can get you out of trouble when it comes to rolling stock and diesel wheels. Had I decided to do this layout in a post steam era theme I had seriously considered using 1/4" scale as I could have made use of Athearn bogies and did some cut and shut on some of the US diesels from Atlas.
Generally the guys modelling the 5'3" and 3'6" use 1/4"; only us standard gaugers mainly stick to 7mm.

Meanwhile it is back to some serious drilling, sawing and filing of aluminium for me.!

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 Posted: Wed May 13th, 2015 12:56 am
   
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Hi Bob,
Good to see someone else making their rake of 4-wheel non-air coal hoppers in 1/43rd scale,

Here's some from the Illawarra with fixed hoppers under the screens at the bottom of the Corrimal Incline at the Bowral Narrow Gauge Convention over last Easter


They still need final painting and lettering for CCC (Corrimal Coal company) or SCC (Southern Coal Company), numbering and then weathering. What have you used for your lettering please?

As a 5 year old I used to watch ones like yours go past my front fence opposite Caledonia station, hauled by double headed SMR 10 class 2-8-2T's.

Here's an example of a full size one "parked" on the southern approaches to Muswellbrook

The white star handle on the left of the hopper is the handbrake. the extension of the hopper body below the frame and the flat bottom dump door are also pretty clear in this photo.

Nice job and looking forward to progress with your 59 class,



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 Posted: Wed May 13th, 2015 02:15 am
   
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Hi John, the Illawarra wagons look terrific. Are they wood?

My lettering is with shaky hand and paint brush. While it won't stand a close look it is fine as they roll past.
Some decals may be available from Peter at OAust and perhaps from Ted Freeman (teditor on railpage).

The fireman on a 38 was the one who got to shovel Muswellbrook coal. Hope they can manage to keep the exhibit in good nick.
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 Posted: Wed May 13th, 2015 07:06 am
   
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Hi Bob,
The Illawarra wagons are heavy card hopper sides and frame with styrene T shapes and Waratah white metal W-irons (S-truck?), buffers and drawhooks.

Here is one in the raw


and the rather sad looking prototype

This photo clearly shows the drop door on this type of wagon.



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 Posted: Wed May 13th, 2015 06:51 pm
   
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Card, a much under-rated material John. Do you soak them in shellac before painting and do you punch the semi-circular braces ?
Did Waratah start doing the S wagon type axleguards too, it has been a while since I looked at their site but at the time they only did the K wagon type? I cheated with mine and used one of the Parkside Dundas range from the UK as I wanted some flexibility in the chassis.

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 Posted: Thu May 14th, 2015 07:32 pm
   
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Hi Bob
The circular braces internal braces and external braces were laser cut on a separate sheet of card with a different thickness than the hopper sides. Styrene T for the side braces and styrene angle for the end bracing were fitted after the bodies were assembled.

The hopper bodies and chassis frame were done for us a special order by Models'n'More based out of Penrith.

Here is the chassis frame, notched for the W-irons


In reality the central cavity for the drawgear should be narrower, as in

but as it is buried under the hopper floor on the model..

From memory, the hoppers were just spray painted with a red primer. So far they have behaved themselves with no swelling or moisture pick-up being evident.

We are planning on using adhesive vinyl letters and numbers on ours.



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 Posted: Thu May 14th, 2015 08:11 pm
   
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Sorry - Duplicate post- please delete if possible

Last edited on Thu May 14th, 2015 08:14 pm by oztrainz



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 Posted: Thu May 14th, 2015 09:42 pm
   
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OK John look forward to see them with the letters.

What do you have to pull them?

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Bob

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 Posted: Thu May 14th, 2015 09:52 pm
   
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Hi Bob,
This :bg:


Given that one of these ran at Catherine Hill Bay hauling coal and no-one has done an 0-6-0 side tank that looks like the 2 Yorkshire tanks that ran Corrimal or the ling boilered Stephenson #18 (now at Thirlmere), I figure that the Ixion Hudswell Clarke is a pretty good stand-in ;)

At present the standard gauge tracks are for scenic effect only, the real action is on the Incline itself. But in the future who knows?



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 Posted: Fri May 15th, 2015 12:09 am
   
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The Ixion locos have proved very useful for a lot of people.
I have seen a E17 done somewhere before. Might have been a major bash of a Lima 4F!
Given the E17 was a standard design it may be possible to find a kit in the UK if there were enough hours in the day to look through all the manufacturers lists :>)
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