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Bob D
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My mom was Welsh.  When I was 5 yrs old (1956) she took me and my brother to England to see our Welsh grandparents who lived in Chester.

We took a trip to Cardiff, where she was born, and recall riding a small/miniature passenger train.

Any ideas what it was?

Also, her sister and her husband lived in London.  We went to see them and after 1 week my mom and brother went back (to Chester) while I stayed another week with my aunt and uncle.

When it came time for me to return my uncle took me and his Cocker Spaniel Juno to the station and put us on the train while he went and got the tickets, when he came back the train was GONE!  He  had put us on a train going to Scotland my mistake.  I was always told it was an express that wasn't suppose to stop.

He got them to radio ahead and had the train stopped and took the "correct" train to get me and take me to my grandparents home.  I was one scared little southern boy, couldn't understand what most of the people were saying (I'm sure they couldn't understand me).

I've always wanted to find out what type of engine pulled that train put never got far in my quest.

Any ideas on this?

To my knowledge, all my relatives are long gone, except a younger cousin and I don't know her married name.

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My google-foo turned this up on Wikipedia... part of the Cambrian Railways system maybe?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambrian_Railways

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If you're on Facebook this might be of interest...

https://www.facebook.com/RememberOldCardiff/photos_stream

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Thanks Dwayne, I'll take a look.

My grandparents ran a hotel called "Badorgan Arms Hotel".  Here's a photo of my mom and aunt in front of the building, probably between 1930-1935:

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Here's a photo of my aunt and grandmother in 1968.

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Last non-train photo.  Here's me, my brother, and our grandparents in their "backyard in Chester.  At this time they owned a corner store on the block and lived upstairs.

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That's me on the right.

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have a look here. maybe you'll be able to find a spotter's photo from the Cardiff area.

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The Badorgan Arms Hotel was in Anglesey, an island off the NorthWest coast of Wales and about as far from Cardiff you could be whilst still remaining in Wales.

If you can suspend logic, the possibility exists that you travelled along the coast between Cardiff and Anglesey. If you travelled inside the 'minature' train, then the best suspect is:

The Talyllyn from Tywyn on the coast near Harlech, this was re-opened in 1951 and the other Great Little Trains of Wales were in their infancy of tourist operations.

Other railways on the Welsh coast were the Ffestiniog Railway, Welshpool & Llanfair Light Railway and Vale of Rheidol Railway, only the latter was in regular use in the early 50s.

Hopefuly this answers some questions, if not ask again and I will do my best.

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Thanks guys, great stuff!

I'll have a look thru all my old photos and letters, maybe my mom mentioned it in one of her letters back home to my dad.

About the only thing I can recall is the passenger cars were small, very small. Almost like it was a carnival ride. Almost 60 years have gone by and the old brain isn't as fresh as it use to be.

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If you came down to Cardiff from Chester then your were on more than likely the GWR (otherwise knows as God's Wonderful Railway (!)
There were, as far as I recollect, no miniature railway in Cardiff at that time.
( I was born and brought up there).
As regards the miniature train.....You may well have travelled on one of the Little Trains of Wales as suggested above by another poster.

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Thanks William!

There's no telling what train I was on, at 5 yrs old those kinds of details are lost due to all the other cool things going on.

If I can get to them I'll look thru all the photos I have, seems like I recall one or two of the train, but I'm not certain.

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The only 1950's possibilities are the Vale of Rheiddol Rly or the Fairbourne Rly near Barmouth. Both are en route to the ex-Bodorgan Arms Hotel from Cardiff.

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Thanks Michael, I wish I could go back 10 years and ask my mom.

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Were either of these RRs near/thru:

Llanfair­pwllgwyngyll­gogery­chwyrn­drobwll­llan­tysilio­gogo­goch?

I can recall my mom mentioning the name of this town over and over, I tried to pronounce it but she said it so fast I couldn't keep up!

She tried to teach me the Welsh language but to no avail. English was hard enough LOL!

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This map may help in orientation.

http://www.greatlittletrainsofwales.co.uk/mapgltw.htm

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WOW!. There is A LOT of them!. Jose.

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Bob,

LlanfairPG - the longest proper place name in the world (the Kiwis made up a name a few years back to "claim" the record).

Neither the TR nor FR are near there BUT the ex-Bodorgan Arms is only 12-15 minutes away by car. I think the former Bodorgan Arms is now the Joiners Arms, High St; Malltraeth, Bodorgan; not 100% sure but I think it's the same building.


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Hello Jose,

Wales was the original NG capital of the world. The D&RGW Chairman visited & was so impressed he decided on an NG system to reach the CO mining districts.

Regards,           Michael

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Salada wrote:
The only 1950's possibilities are the Vale of Rheiddol Rly or the Fairbourne Rly near Barmouth. Both are en route to the ex-Bodorgan Arms Hotel from Cardiff.

Regards,               Michael


Only possibilties? The Tallylynn is the oldest preserved railway, being rescued in 1951 by the writer Tom Rolt. It has since continued in operation to date.

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Thanks for all the comments and leads!

My grandfather was in the Royal Machine Gun Corp in WWI. I have all his papers from his service and his medals.

I had 1 medal with the name "Major J.W. Flood" inscribed around the edge. My mom told me my grandfather won it in a poker game (maybe on board a merchant ship where he was a steward).

A few years ago I was doing some research on it and found Major Flood's records, he was in the Australian Imperial Force (AIF, he was a doctor).

Soon I made contact with an Aussie who was helping find/return lost medals to the families of war vets. He knew Peter Hohnen, who was writing a book on the SMS Wolf, a German raider and thru them and a few others I found a living relative of Major Floods. He lives in France and I sent him the medal.

Come to find out Major Flood and his wife were on a ship that was captured by the SMS Wolf and spent some time in their custody.

Never did authenticate the story of my grandfather winning the medal in a poker game, but it was very satisfying to return the medal and find out about the Major, even received a copy of the book Peter wrote.

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Interesting story, Bob


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Thanks Herb,

Here's a photo of Major Flood's name on the medal:

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Here's another.  My grandfather was steward on the SS Oriana before the war and SS Victoria after the war (I think I have those in the right order).

I really wish I had photos of the train my uncle put me on in London :bang:

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