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What he said.



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Fair enough. For me the question is; what does using a Deltang rx for speed direction, lights give you that the DCC decoder (that you'll be using for the sound anyway) doesn't provide.

Just an enquiring mind wondering what the perceived advantage if this type of set-up is ?

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 Posted: Thu Oct 8th, 2015 07:36 am
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I want the simplicity of R/C, but I also want sound. The only switches I want are for engine headlamps (on/off) and the whistle (momentary) and preferably the Westinghouse pump (engines on shed won't be chatging thereservoir). The important part of the sound is not just to have synchronised exhaust beats, but to have dynamic changes to the exhaust: harder when accelerating, then all but silent when coasting. This level of sophistication in sound (including digital recordings, as far as I know, know, is not available except via DCC, , or proprietary systems.



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 Posted: Thu Oct 8th, 2015 08:40 am
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Simon, you can do all of that in Large scale right now by marrying the latest Mylocosound system to the Deltang Rx65b RX/ESC. Whilst Deltang has a number of suitable RX/ESC combinations for the small scales, unfortunately the MyLocosound system is way too large for your scale.
John. The Deltang based TX and RX's are simple and quite low cost so the attraction is self evident.
If the DCC sound makers would care to offer trigger outputs that can be operated by open collector transistors/FET's it would be a big advance on what we have now.

The DCC sound decoders are lowish in cost but the main expense is in the extra equipment required to use them with battery R/C.



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Tony,

You have nailed the problem fair and square!



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 Posted: Thu Oct 8th, 2015 11:47 am
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Another approach, if it were at all possible, would be to interface a 2.4 GHz Digital Proportional RX to with a DCC decoder. As in the RX would generate the DCC commands.
In my opinion from a simplicity point of view it would not be necessary to have all the DCC bells and whistles. Not even multi loco addresses. System separation could be by the same way we do it in R/C now.

Anyway, I do believe there should be an open discussion as to what would be desirable.
Sadly I could not offer any practical expertise because I know zip about DCC and what is involved.



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I see Mylocosound have a module suitable for HO/00 at a reasonable price. It has to connect to a power supply but would it work with the output from a Deltang Rx? Maybe there would be battery problems with the additional power drain. I like the idea of putting it in the leading coach with its own batteries and Rx. As it produces the various sounds according to the voltage this might work.



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As far as I know the H0/00 version is different in that has no manual trigger inputs.
Perhaps a few discreet enquiries direct to Peter Lucas at MyLocosound might be worthwhile.



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For those looking for an affordable DIY system, this my be of interest

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Helmut, that WiFi control looks promising but after reading (and not comprehending) the literature, I feel that one would need a laptop or smart phone to use this. What about us old dinosaurs who don't want to sit at a laptop and program a train or who don't own a "smart phone"? As I mentioned, this looks like a neat way to go but it doesn't seem easy, at least to me. Can you explain this in "idiot" terms?

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