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 Posted: Tue Aug 8th, 2017 10:05 pm
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O scale is so odd. I have things all made for O scale but they clearly are made in different real scales. Some are 1/48, some 1/43, some 1/50, and some... well, I have no clue what it is.
The 3-railers didn't make it easy in that many of them revel in using anything that is close.
Then, there's the Brit O scale. That adds a new dimension.
THEN, there's the semi-scale 2-rail types, which use something I think is closer to S than anything else. I have figures made by the same company, all for O, and the actual scale is nowhere near one another.
I mean geez, say what you will about HO, but at least most of the stuff made for 1/87 is indeed 1/87!



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Lee,

I feel your pain.  If O scale isn't challenging enough take a look at G scale.  Now,  is G scale 1:32, 1:29, 1:20.3, pr 1:24?  Or maybe something you haven't heard of.  Try ordering parts through the mail that are simply labeled as 'G' scale.

In 1:35 scale parts are borrowed from both O scale and G scale.  I've used some Tri-ang OO scale metal frame cars as a starting point for something homemade.  I've also used some HO and N scale tank cars as either fuel or water storage.



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Michael M wrote: Lee,



I feel your pain.  If O scale isn't challenging enough take a look at G scale.  Now,  is G scale 1:32, 1:29, 1:20.3, pr 1:24?  Or maybe something you haven't heard of.  Try ordering parts through the mail that are simply labeled as 'G' scale.



Good point, Michael. That's one of the reasons I got out of G (that the and crushing cost of just about anything in that scale) as there didn't seem to be any consistency to be able to order anything without seeing it first.



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Lee,

I'm really enjoying working in 1:35 scale.  Two-foot narrow gauge comes out to HO gauge so HO and On30 mechanisms can be used.  I made a critter using an HO Plymouth switcher, and a rail truck using a Bachmann HO Brill trolley.  And, they're radio controlled using the guts from inexpensive RC cars.  Granted you have to do a lot of scratch building, but at least my railroad won't look like anybody else's.  I'm also building the pike outside so I don't have to deal with any pesky walls constraining me.



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Ah Scratchbuilding!

To me, that's the way to go.

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So who out there said "Get going then?"



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Hi all

Sometimes you can get lucky and some rubber-scaling will do the job



A 1/45 scale Magic Trains Stainz goes close to an "exact fit" to a smaller-sized  but bigger-scaled 1/43 scale Krauss when compared to the prototype photo



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Bob D wrote: Good luck Tim with your forum :apl:

I often wonder why we have all these different scales that are so close to one another. I'd like to see a group of engines or rolling stock side-by-side that represents all our different scales, just to see how much difference there is.

Bob D.

I can't show you all three O scales but I can show you the difference between the two outer scales, 1:43 and 1:48 (see below).

For me this is too big a difference for the two to be mixed successfully (unless trying to create perspective), and being as I collect both British and American (and would like other countries aswell) it means I am having to make my American's at 1:43 scale. The photo shows my unfinished attempt at enlarging the end of a box car to 1:43 scale alongside the original at 1:48.

I reckon you could get away with mixing 1:45 scale with the other two, but not 1:43 and 1:48 scale.

I have recently discovered that the Americans used 1:45 scale many many years ago. It was called 17/64" scale or O(17) and it died out in the 1950s. Apparently there is still some stock around on the second hand market and I believe there are still some folk over there who model at that scale. Can't find much on the Net, some photos and a little discussion.

Rich

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Michael M wrote:   Now,  is G scale 1:32, 1:29, 1:20.3, pr 1:24? 
That's exactly why those that adhere to a certain fixed scale here in Germany make fun of that "Gummibahn-Eisenbahner" (Rubbertrain Modelers). But to be fair, that horrible 1:29 business started in the USA. Probably by some with British ancestors that in the 1920's adhered to Henry Greenly's modeling standards that amongst others led to 1:3 scale on 15" gauge.



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True '0' scale has to be 1:45 and nothing else, because 1.25" scale out to 56.25". Closer you can't get. 1:48 should run on 30mm gauge, and 1:43.5 on 33mm gauge track. The difference between 1:43.5 (British 0) and 1:45 (Continental 0) is 6.7% and can optically be tolerated in most cases. The 10% difference to 1:48 is as heavy as 1:87 vs. 1:76.
( There was American 00 on 19mm guage track way back in the fifties! Jock Oliphant comes to mind )



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Helmut quote:- "True '0' scale has to be 1:45 and nothing else …."


Can't argue with that. The trouble with 1:45 scale is that there is not much else at that scale (perhaps you know better). I started my modelling by collecting model vehicles.  I kept to 1:43 scale and managed to aquire quite a wide variety of transport at that scale from horses to horse drawn vehicles, then all manner of road transport, buses, trucks (struggling with construction vehicles), agriculture, even the odd ships, and recently have even managed to find some aircraft at that scale. When I then discovere British O scale was 1:43 I decided to get into railway modelling. It's a great shame some scale standards weren't layed out a long time ago in the modelling world.


Helmut quote:- "The 10% difference to 1:48 is as heavy as 1:87 vs. 1:76."


Yes, Miniature Wunderland in Hamburg (never been) are plannning to do a British scene, I hope they don't do it at OO scale. They should 3D print some stuff at HO scale.



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