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 Posted: Mon Dec 14th, 2015 03:52 pm
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Hi guys,

I look for a source for freight car inscriptions. Is there any guideline for what should be on a car? Like lenght, weight, maximum loading capacity, and so on?

I did an internet search but so far without results. Most photo's aren't sharp enough to see what it says.

I want to make my own decals so any help is appreciated.

Alwin

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It depends on what specific railroad car you're talking about.
It varies as each car was built to a different size, weight and carrying capacity.



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Hi Lee,

I'm looking for more general data. The car specific data I can fill in myself.

So should the length, loading capacity, etc. noted on the car? And of course, what more?

I like to know this for a few different types. For now I have a flatcar and a tankcar finished (besides of the painting) and some boxcars to bo build.

Thanks. Alwin

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Hello Alwin,

Obviously I am NOT an expert on American freight cars but so far as I know, & I have seen, the usual markings are as follows:

CAPY      The nominal intended max load (excluding the car's weight I think).

LD LMT    The absolute max weight that the car can carry (& ditto above).

LT WT      The weight of the empty car i.e. the Tare Weight.

CU FT       the internal volume of the car


Other markings may indicate date last weighed; type of bearing lubrication; type of brake; brake force. I have seen various types of these other markings, perhaps it varies from one railroad to another. Still in service D&RGW badged cars have very few technical detail markings from what I have seen - perhaps they have faded or worn off. I have seen some private coal-mine/power station railroad cars in Arizona with nothing but the Company initials on them.

What period are you modelling, as this may be significant ?

I think the ? Interstate Transport Trade Act ? or some such similar name introduced some fairly standardised marking rules sometime in the ? 1930's ?.

Advertising billboard style boxcars were also supposedly outlawed by, I think, the same Act; certainly sometime mid-late 1930's.

Best I can do !    

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Alwin,

Some photos which might help you.

Photo 1.  I have no idea what D.O.D.X. is - a Road Name perhaps ? You can see the CAPY, LD LMT & LT WT markings on right side of the solebar. You can also see something marked on the brake cylinder - probably the brake force (or possibly the tonnage brake force equivalent such as on Italian & Spanish wagons) :





Photo 2. Shows CAPY, LD LMT & LT WT by blowing up my original. I would have expected an open hopper to also show CU FT but no sign thereof. No other technical info :






Photo 3. Shows my point about differences between between different railroads or wagon hirers/owners. Even under magnification these markings don't seem to conform to any format :






Photo 4. Clearly shows LD LMT and LT WT.  The black panel outlined white on the right end has Build, Re-build & Lubrication information, but mostly illegible or left blank.
I have no idea what MW and L 53-6 mean.
It was a large flatcar, perhaps LENGTH 53' 6" ?? :

 



I hope this helps a bit.

Regards,      Michael

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Thanks Michael, that is the kind of info I am looking for.

I found a good website for the signs on a tank car. It is a restored car and the progress showed the signs well.
http://www2.irm.org/blogs/categories/27-Union-Tank-Car-Company-17222-Tank-Car

If someone has more info it is still appreciated.

Alwin

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All cars, in addition to having the optional name of the railroad must have a letter contraction. If the contraction ends with X, it means that the car is owned by some organization other than a railroad.
 So DODX might be Department of Defense.


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Herb Kephart wrote:
So DODX might be Department of Defense.It is. I loaded countless tanks and armored (and soft skin) military vehicles onto them in my Army days...



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Thanks Herb and Lee.

With some different search terms I found some more info today. It's on this website:

http://trn.trains.com/railroads/abcs-of-railroading/2006/05/freight-car-markings
The most of it is explained there well.

Alwin

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Hi Alwin
MW = Maintenance of Way"?, may not be in full interchange service (ie could be restricted to just one network) and may be subject to less stringent inspections but possibly tighter operating procedures because of those less stringent inspection requirements? Perhaps have to be marshalled and moved with more engine braking capacity?

The rules on Maintenance of Way cars were tightened up following the Cima Hill runaway in 1980. The story is available on line at http://www.trainweb.org/mystation/CIMA.txt It makes fascinating but frightening reading.



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