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 Posted: Sat May 7th, 2016 12:25 am
   
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Oh, the joys of bleeding edge software. LOL... all the BlueRail app does on my 'up to date' iPad is display a sideways image of their opening page with a firebox. I NEVER run my iPad in Portrait mode. But, the software ONLY displays Portrait apparently. grrr... And...

It does NOTHING but display the firebox with a few buttons that blink when touched. Nothing more.

Any tips on how to see what it does?



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 Posted: Sat May 7th, 2016 10:48 am
   
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Ken, I think the only way you can see what it does is to have it "acquire" an engine that has the board in it turned on. At least that's what I saw after downloading the app. I tried pushing buttons then realized the board hadn't been turned on.

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 Posted: Sat May 7th, 2016 08:32 pm
   
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I pulled the board and battery out of the O-scale 4-6-2 and put it in my O-scale Weaver RS3 with Pittman 8514 motor.

It ran fine so I hooked on 7 tankcars and a caboose and ran it for 5 minutes, same result, ran fine.

Both of these are temporary installations, I still have to wire in the lights and on/off/charging jack.

I think I'll keep my steamers running off RCS Australia gear and run the RS3 for a while using the BlueRail gear to get a good feel for what it can do. I'd still feel more comfortable with a 4amp board I think. I need to put this in a 2-motor diesel to see how it handles the additional load.

Both engines had very good slow speed performance.

I figure the board, 9-pin to 8-pin connector, battery, on/off/charging jack, lights, and other small items like connectors, will run no more than $150-$175 per engine.

The software app is very easy to use, good job BlueRail :moose:

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 Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2016 03:09 pm
   
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I just got a email from BluRail, they now have a video showing how to 'chuff syncronise' with the App.



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 Posted: Wed May 25th, 2016 12:08 am
   
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The App also has 4 settings for types of "speed": Switcher, Freight, Passenger, Full Power.

I found I can run my RS3 on the "Freight" setting and when I pull into a siding I can stop the train, change it to Switcher, and the engine will run at a slower speed than it does when in the "Freight" setting.

I also found you don't want to change the setting while the engine is running round the layout. I had it on Full Power and changed it to Switcher and just about jerked the trucks off the thing, coming to a full stop in the process.

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 Posted: Tue May 31st, 2016 12:06 pm
   
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Well, I think I found the limitations of this board for O scale.

I pulled 6 boxcars (16 ounces each) and a caboose and within about 30 minutes the board shutdown, I could feel heat on the outside of the RS3 plastic shell. I let it cool down for maybe 10 minutes, removed the boxcars, and ran it again and all is well.

I did run a lighter 7-car train (all tankcars, around 14 ounces each) without any issues for the same length of time. The weight is about the same (6 boxcars, 7 tankcars) but I think the tankcars rolled better (not as much drag).

I heftier amp board is needed for O-scale. No surprise since this board was designed for HO/N, but I did email Dave Rees to let him know.

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That looks like thermal shutdown rather than too many Amps? Does the board have thermal shutdown built in? Or maybe the first train had the loco pulling just under 2 amps?

I just reconfirmed my order for 2 deadrail boards and hopefully enough orders will soon be enough to pay for EU certification.



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Dave, I think it has current overload protection and not thermal protection, but I could be wrong. I've been emailing Dave Rees and will ask him.

I think the 1st train was lighter in weight or had less drag n the trucks. I'm running some tests to see how long a train will run with a given load ( weighed some cars and the engine), at different speeds, so will know more soon.

Dave Rees did say he was looking into boards for O and G scales.

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I use a similar system for estimating the amps a loco draws. I use a 70mAh battery and run the loco plus its load at the required speed until the LVC cuts the power. I time how long this takes and this gives me 2 useful measures

1 - the time can be extrapolated for larger batteries

2 - As a 70mAh battery can supply 1Amp for 4.2 minutes I can calculate how many amps the loco uses. This determines if a 2S battery is better than a 1S.



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 Posted: Thu Jun 2nd, 2016 09:42 am
   
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I ran a test last night. Using my Weaver O-scale RS3 I pulled 5 Atlas boxcars and a MTH caboose (total weight 8.7 pounds) for 2 hours 45 minutes at 75% throttle setting.

The board held up fine, the batteries ran low and that's what caused the test to stop.

Not quite sure what to make of this compared to the run that stopped the other day (maybe the battery wasn't fully charged). I plan on running another test tonight at 100% throttle and see what happens.

I calculated the "system" (board, motor, 4 LEDs) drew less than 750Mah (using 2000Mah battery pack) for it to run this long.

My operating sessions usually don't last 2 hours so if this is what to expect I'm all set. It may even allow me to use a smaller capacity battery which will give me more room inside an engine for a sound card (I'm going to gut one of the bluetooth wifi cube speakers to see if I can put the components inside the engine).

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