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 Posted: Sat Aug 27th, 2016 10:38 am
   
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Dave,

That's great! What scale to you model in?

I just got my 3rd board the other day, now I have 2 diesels and 1 steamer (all O scale) wired with the BlueRail board.

They're easy to wire in (I also bought the 9 to 8 pin harness) and the basic instructions are easy to understand. There are some adjustments that can be made that I didn't fully understand, but Dave Rees has answered all my questions I've had.

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 Posted: Sun Aug 28th, 2016 10:38 am
   
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British outline 00 scale steam which means I am restricted to less than 30mm for width. The bluerail board is 28mm wide so should fit but the length is too long for all but the largest tenders. I intend to fit one board in a tender drive 4-6-2 loco or rather in a permanent brake coach which has plenty of room. The other board is for modern image locos which can have plenty of space.



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I finally got around to installing that Gems speaker in the E7.  The only thing I removed from inside the speaker assy was the single cell LiPo battery, so I could hook the speaker board up to the 9.6v, 2000Mah battery already in the engine.  I did have to dremel off some of the speaker housing to make it fit inside.  Here's some crappy photos and video:

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I had to add a 5v voltage regulator (8605), but that turned out easy to do, once I got a bit of guidance from Bob Walker, who's helping with the development of the BlueRail boards. There's a number of components that could be removed from the speaker board (2 charging jacks, microphone, LED, volume control, on/off switch, to make it smaller, a rectangular speaker would be nice too, instead of a 2" round one. Take a listen to the video, pretty good sound I feel. BobD

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 Posted: Wed Nov 9th, 2016 10:26 am
   
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Sorry folks, but in the first two posts I tried to embed the YouTube video by using the YouTube button, the 3rd post I put it in as a link.

BobD

I wanted to edit the first post so I hit "Edit", nothing was there.  I went back and hit "Edit Source" and the post (with the photos) appeared and I did edit it then.

Weird!!!

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I had an email recently from blurail trains about their latest developments. They have developed the technology to drive DCC decoders and sound board direct from their board. They also prioritised this over developing a smaller board - pity.

What I found perhaps more interesting was the total lack of response when I posted the news on the Bachmann Bluetooth topic in RMWEB's DCC forum. Perhaps they are in shock or just don't care !



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davecttr wrote: I had an email recently from blurail trains about their latest developments. They have developed the technology to drive DCC decoders and sound board direct from their board. They also prioritised this over developing a smaller board - pity.

What I found perhaps more interesting was the total lack of response when I posted the news on the Bachmann Bluetooth topic in RMWEB's DCC forum. Perhaps they are in shock or just don't care !

I got the email too and my take is a bit different than yours Dave.

You say they prioritized the development of DCC over that of a smaller board - pity.

I say they prioritized the development of DCC over that of a more powerful board (more amps for O-scale) - pity.

I guess it all depends on what scale you're into ;)

I don't know anything about DCC, so I sent Dave Rees at BlueRail a few questions I had about the melding of the 2 systems.  I'm hoping this DCC thing is mainly for the vast sound files they're using.

Dave's extremely busy right now, I think Bachmann is the driving force (funding I expect) behind what he's doing so maybe he's trying to satisfy their wants and desires.  Being they're into just about all the scales I can't imagine what they want Dave to do for them, not sure which scale is their top priority.

Does anyone besides O-scale 3-rail use smoke (G scale?)???  I don't think O-scale 2-rail favors it and I doubt the smaller scales have the room.

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Yes, my mistake. they want to develop a more powerful board and I can't understand why not go for a smaller one? Dave Reese wrote me that the Bluetooth receiver/processor module they use is now available in a much smaller package.

In comparing their bluehorse board with my Deltang's I appreciate the 'simple' way of changing parameters. I was interested in how much improvement there would be in starting as bluerail have implemented BEMF. I did not notice much difference and although changing things is easy to do via the app whether what you are changing will make any improvement is difficult to tell!.

IMO they still need to develop a smaller and cheaper board, have onboard battery monitoring. Seek an existing or develop a hand held tactile throttle, develop british loco sounds etc etc.

As for sound happily you can switch it off and still sound the bells and whistles.

edit - thinks! - maybe a small handheld module that 'whistles' on a press of the button would be all we need?

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I'm with ya Dave :2t:

The Deltang board does a lot in such a small package and overcoming the fear of fouling up the board when making changes is tough.

With the BlueRail board I've gone into the onscreen settings and made changes and it's simple to do, but there's some I just don't see what they're suppose to do and leave them alone.

Dave has a video showing him using a MadKatz (sp?) wireless controller and there's the SteelSeries Nimbus controller that will work too, to give us a tactile throttle, I just haven't spent the $50 yet to get one L:

I don't care for smoking engines, but a lot of O-scale 3-rail folks do.  They also love their sounds.

I wouldn't mind steam chuff and diesel rumble, along with bell, horn, and whistle, but they're not a make or break deal for me.  Anything added in is going to drive the price of these boards up so be prepared.

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 Posted: Fri Dec 2nd, 2016 12:23 pm
   
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Dave, They are probably developing a more powerful board with an aim of cracking the Large Scale market.
It will be interesting to see if they can snaffle any of the outdoor R/C people using a smart phone outdoors. So far no one else has cracked it that I know of.



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Dave,

Could it be that Bachmann is pushing for these other things and not a smaller package???

While it is easier to make changes using the BlueRail/EZ App, I'm like you in having a hard time telling what happens when a change is made. They need to explain what each of the changeable parameters do.

They have a video of them using a MadCatz wireless controller, and I'm thinking of getting one or the SteelSeries Nimbus controller. The prices are around $50.

I wouldn't mind synchronized steam chuff and diesel rumble, bell/whistle/horn would be about the only other sounds I would even care to have.

BobD




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