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 Posted: Tue Feb 9th, 2016 07:37 pm
   
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You are right Ken - I've also noticed that - old mine/mill buildings sometimes have sash windows where you might have expected a simpler, site-built, frame.

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 Posted: Tue Feb 9th, 2016 10:38 pm
   
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" The windows are actually all made by Grandt Line...how's that for an "answer"? "

Hi Woodie.

Yep !
Black Hawk, the convention choice, for 19th-century UPVC window salesmen !

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" Add my name to the list of who remembers coal being delivered to residences in heavy duty canvas bags, swung over the shoulder of the truck driver."

Hi Herb.

& mine !
As a kid in Kent, Ma & Pa had a 'coal shed'...
...small block built, tin roof outbuilding for it.
The coal guy was as black as the ace of spades & strong as an ox !!

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" Windows... I have seen lots of dilapidated buildings at mine sites in Nevada, and nearly all appear to have been factory made things, with weighted sashes and milled parts."

Hi Ken.

Yeah ... always the same windows in a ton of old industrial photos.

Seems to always be a 3x4 pane sash window.

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Thanks guys !

I am going to start to draw this out.
Been busy whittleing R.R. cars !!

Still though...
...if anyone looking in has some old kit plans they could scan & eMail...
...I would rain down :moose:s on you like you wouldn't believe !!
( sorry, no cash alternative, terms & conditions apply )

Cheers.

Si.

Another 'coffee-stirrer crime-wave' today !
Up the sleeves, like the card-dealers in Black Hawk...
...down the pants...
...in the burger-bag.

That joint never got though so many in 5 mins. before.

Wonder what I could do with them ? ...
...make a gold mine ?



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 Posted: Tue Feb 9th, 2016 11:07 pm
   
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Hi Si,
Or perhaps some retaining walls to go with the gold mine?



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 Posted: Wed Feb 10th, 2016 08:58 pm
   
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Keith posted an interesting little drawing from a late 19th-century fire-insurance map, in his 'Modeling The Gilpin Tram' thread.

You are right Woodie...
...Keith KNOWS THE TRUTH !

It's not just 'straight from the horses mouth'...
...Keith IS the horse !
( sorry Keith )

;)



I have asked Keith a couple of questions about this drawing.

But am pretty sure this is the floor-plan of the mine.

The boiler & smokestack are clearly indicated.

The Gilpin Tram track ran at the front of the mine (right side of drawing)...
...obviously where the tipper-track is seen in the pictures on the last 2 pages.

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 Posted: Thu Feb 11th, 2016 11:40 pm
   
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Keith tells me that the  IR. CH. 35'  marked on the fire insurance map ...
... means 35 foot tall iron chimney.

Nice !

The '/ ' & 'X' s marked in the spaces mean ...
... 1 story building & X denotes shingles.

So was The Grand Central originaly built without the tin roof ? ... Could be !

I guess fire-insurance guys would like EVERYTHING made out of tin !!



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Hi Miner 49ers !

I'm not a great wiz in Photoshop or Illustrator...
...If I was, I could probably do what I'm trying to do here much easier...
...but, I tried this instead.



This is of course if the 39' width is correct.

Obviously both photos are at an oblique angle, similar but opposite by the looks of it.

Mmmm...

L:

Si.



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 Posted: Tue Feb 16th, 2016 04:16 am
   
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Looks good to me. Since we seem to have nothing but the photos, it looks like that's the plan. (pun intended) Nobody can really argue with it either.



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 Posted: Thu Feb 18th, 2016 09:53 pm
   
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" Looks good to me. Since we seem to have nothing but the photos, it looks like that's the plan. (pun intended) Nobody can really argue with it either. "

Hi Ken. :wave:

I like plans nobody can really argue with !! :thumb:

They don't call me 'Stalin' Si. for no reason !! ;)

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Who is the mysterious PURPLE BOB ?? !! ??? :us:



Purple Bob is a Teddy Bear who fell into a vat of blueberries...
...& ended up something like Batmans arch enemy, The Joker !

Bob makes rather spiffy printed card kits...
...& when he's not doing that...
...he makes rather spiffy die-cut windows !

PurpleBobsHobbies.co.uk ( & on eBay )

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Bob actualy makes a 3x4 pane window.
But this doesn't get you the 'sash' thickness.

So I got Bobs biggest 'industrial windows'.
I will get enough 3x2 sections from one die-cut for 2 Grand Central windows.
I can make 12 windows, from a Bob 6-pack !

They look pretty good next to Wolfgang, my 'yardstick'...
...or in Wolfgangs case, '2 yardstick' !

I think the correct windows & how they look on the building is what really makes one building look different to another.
Doors help as well !!

Ta ta fa noooo ...

:moose:

Si.



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 Posted: Wed Feb 24th, 2016 07:55 am
   
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Hi miner 49er's !

A little more research has come up with this very nice looking 1:48 kit.

This was it seems, specificaly designed for the interior of the various 1:48 kits made over the years of The Grand Central Mining Co.

The model was originaly released in the early '80s by R. Hildebrand.
It is currently available from Wiseman Model Services.

If I was a 1:48er I would probably be melting down my credit-card right now !

Certain things like dozers & cranes have been good 'upscales' for me, to 1:35...
...unfortunatly I think this might be stretching things in this case.

For 1:48ers this looks like the biscuit though !!









Seeing this  kit has totaly educated me on what might be inside any small mine.

Winch.
Hoist cage.
Air blower.
Electrical generator.
Water pump.
&
Steam boiler.

:moose:

Si.



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 Posted: Wed Feb 24th, 2016 02:23 pm
   
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Hi Si,
For a small shallow lead mine where the ore is dense you could probably get away with this one - you might have to space out the rungs on the side of the main hoist timbers but that would be about it.

If you think you need need more steam supply capacity, simply sleeve the boiler with a larger diameter tube.

The size of the air blower, pump and generator are probably about right. If you think you might need more steam power to spin them in a larger scale, simply sleeve sleeve the steam cylinder on the steam engine to give you a bigger diameter piston inside the cylinder. The bottom end of the steam engine is probably fine, even in 1/32-1/35 scale.



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