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Dan Abbott & Dell A. McCoy wrote this epic a few years back and I believe that all with an interest in the Colorado 2 footer NEEDS this book in their library. Published by SUNDANCE PUBLICATIONS in 2009, this one is a real keeper and has the "straight dope" on this fascinating little railroad. From 1886 to 1917, it hauled many a ton of gold & silver ore from the mines above Central City & Blackhawk, CO. With the popularity of Kieth Pashina's Gilpin thread here on Freerails, I thought I'd write something on this book. I have several books and articles (some by Kieth) about the GT and the railroad has been a favorite of mine since my teen years, just a few years ago. I'm just 67 now.
This 416 page tome has all you will want on the Gilpin. Photos, plans, words, EVERYTHING. I don't know how much this book fetches now or if it can be bought but find one if you can.
Shays, mines, mountains, and even a connection with the 3 foot gauge Colorado Central (later C&S)...what more could a narrow gauge lover want?
In my case, the first 2 GT lokies were sold to the Silver City NG and Lima provided parts for the SC's Ore cars which were similar to Gilpin's cars.
It took a long time for the authors to gather all this info and photos and it shows in the quality of this book. Of course, SUNDANCE publishes some first rate material, they are one of the premier railroad book sellers.

GET THIS BOOK, you won't be sorry...just sorry if you let a copy get past you!

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Ouch... Amazon has them from $75 to $325. Guess I'll have to find one in a library.

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I would buy the $75 one...the book cost me $85 brand new from Sundance. Mine is signed however. Good luck with the library, let us know if they have one.

Woodie

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OUCH !!!! ...

... but ...

... it's ORDERED !

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Si.

Can't wait for the SCREECH of heavy-braking...

...as Dave the postman arrives in his lil' red mail van !

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Si-you won't be sorry. This book is a real keeper and is the "last word" on things Gilpin Tram.

Man, if it's worth as much as the high quote...well...

Woodie

###ABE BOOKSELLERS has 3 of these priced $100 to $200###

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DOUBLE OUCH !!

Having oiled the wallet journals...
...& flashed the Dinero, for the book...
...the seller eMails me today, with a cardiac causing SURCHARGE !

They say it's an abnormal book !

I paid ...

£53.35 for book
£24.17 shipping !!
+
£20.68 shipping SURCHARGE !!

Sorry about the 'Queens quids'...
last time I looked it was about $1.42c / £

Can you guys believe the shipping cost ?

I have ordered U.S books from Amazon before...
...and paid very sensible shipping rates.

This book must weigh 6 lb or what ?

Gulp.

Si.

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Si-yes it is a "heavy" book...It ain't heavy, it's GRRRRREAT!

Check Abe books sometime, they have great out of print books and tell who's selling them. Might be someone in your neck of the woods and sometimes they have FREE SHIPPING on certain titles. No, I don't work for them, they have just gotten lots of my money over the years.

Woodie

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http://www.abebooks.com/
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Yeah ... They've got a lot of my money as well now !

They are the $+%@?#€ who are tryin' to fleece me !

I did check how much the U.K Royal Mail would do 4 lb to the U.S for.

The original £24 shipping would cover it.

Personaly, I think the seller is tryin' it on.

I haven't paid the surcharge yet.

But can't get the book in the U.K either, I checked pretty good.

If I pay the extra, it will be EASILY the most expensive book. I've EVER bought.

Mmmm...

Si.

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Ooooooh...sorry 'bout that. I never had a prob with ol' Abe...however...
That "Pictorial suppliment to DSP&P" by Mac Poor is my most $$$$...back a few years, I shelled out over $175US for it but when I got it, it was signed, numbered, and had a nice dust cover. I ate Ramen noodles for weeks after that one.
On the other side, I bought Mann Creek NG for $29US and later found it available for $150 to over $200 so I ain't gonna b#$%h about nothin'...
What the heck, I told Pam that while my trains won't fetch a dime after I'm gone...the books will buy her a new car!
Go figure


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Could you have it sent to somebody, re-wrapped in plain box/envelope/paper and marked as 'gift'?. Ya know, crime DOES pay... Jose.

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On the Gilpin thread...M H Ferrell authored a book about the GT, not as much info as the one above, but very nice anyway. Various articles over the years, many by Keith Pashina. A chapter in Shaw's Little Railways of the World (also tells about my fave, SCPA&M). Chapters in Colorado RR Museum books dealing with Colorado Central & Colorado and Southern/Blackhawk-Central City. And I am sure that I have left out more. Lots of info for the western 2 foot lover.

Woodie

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I've got the Mallory Hope Ferrell book, just ordered the Gilpin book from Hollenbeck, the "The Gilpin Era" book by Abbott and McCoy, they both look good and I had some coupons to use over at Abebooks, so should have them in within a week or two, depending on the media mail speed. The Gilpin Era book was list priced at $85 so anything under $80 is a good deal, I can't imagine they made tons of copies either. I started spending serious money (over $100) on book about 3 years ago, realized they seem to go up in price on certain ones, mostly I buy US coin reference books, and have made some good profit selling duplicates as I come across them. Some of the Rail Road books I see are down right expensive, but I'm not sure there is as big of a market, so I'm only getting books I want to read and keep. Almost pulled the trigger on the DSP&P MC Poor two volume set last week, but I think I'll hold off a bit and find them cheaper. They were listed on eBay for $325.00 the Pictorial book #2 can be had fairly cheaply if you're not looking for the first edition. I've got a copy dated 1976 for under $40.

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JUst about to order the Gilpin Railrod Era book from the Colorado Rail Museum, (they still have them in stock at $80.00) when a buy it now popped up in my eBay search the other morning for $45.00! I couldn't hit the button fast enough! Just received the book Friday, it's amazing, the other ones I have are good, but this is THE reference book to have. Also found this one "Gilpin County Gold-Peter McFarlane 1848-1929 Mining Entrepreneur in Central City, Colorado" by H. William Axford (210 pages), not much on the tram line, but hoping a bunch of mining and stamp mill info in it. It does have a fair amount of photos of the area buildings, and it was cheap on eBay for an old out of print hardback book in great shape at $10.00. The title and line drawing on the cover jacket sold me right away.

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Yep, the Gilpin Era book is outrageously expensive but when I had a few dollars available, I got one from Sundance and it was signed/numbered. I'm glad that I got one, now I probably would need to consider eating for a couple of weeks or that damn book! Also back then, I got the DSP&P Pictorial book, also signed & numbered for about as much as I now spend on a month's groceries.

Money, like wimmin, is hard to get and leaves quickly!
Woodie

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Woodie that's why I was so excited to find a nice used copy pop up on eBay for only $45! I hear you on the cost of everything these days.

P.S. My copy is also signed and numbered, the only issue is the previous owner wrote his name across the top of the pages in ink (on the spine of the pages), not horrible but it's nearly impossible to remove.

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Chriss, I haven't bought any books in a while...the prices seem to keep rising unless I learned to scour fleabay and craig's thing for deals. I actually have enough reading material to last way past my time of earthly departure anyway.
The Gilpin books are real treasures and I love the road but I got all of them because my REAL love is the Silver City line which got GT's #'s 1 & 2. Thank goodness Duane Ericson wrote his book about SCNG. Funny how there are so many Gilpin books and only one Silver City book!
Have fun and run a train today...
Woodie

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Is The Gilpin Gold Tram: Colorado's Unique Narrow Gauge by Ferrell worth getting?  Found a copy relatively cheap but wanted to hear a few opinions before I pull the trigger.

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I've only found 3 books on the Gilpin Tram specifically. 
The bible is the Dan Abbot - "The Gilpin Railroad Era" book - expensive at $75-150
Frank Hollenback's book the Gilpin Tramway also pricey at around $75+
Mallory Hope Farrell book "Gilpin Gold Tram" is an excellent value, it has many of the same drawings in Frank's original book, I've seen them regularly show up on eBay in the $25-40 range. Wait for a lower cost example to show up and grab it, it's a great book. It was the first book I got, (I have all three), and I gotta say it's a good read with a lot of accurate information inside.

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Found a copy of Gilpin Gold Tram used in good condition for $15.  Can't wait to see it!

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I know you'll enjoy the read when it arrives Michael! Here is a great post listing the resources Keith Pashina wrote up for his thread here on FR about his HOn3 RR based on the GT. (It's the second post down on this page) the whole thread is inspirational to me for modeling the Gilpin.
Gilpin Tram Reading Reference List

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I know you'll enjoy it Michael, that was a great price too. Here is a list (2nd post down, by Keith) here on FreeRails on the Gilpin Tram reading references.
http://www.freerails.com/view_topic.php?id=4599&forum_id=17&page=3
The whole thread is an inspiration to me as it covers Keith building his HOn30 RR in a small space, to be a close representation of the Gilpin Tram.

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It's not like I really needed another book.  My railroad library consists of about 60 books right now.  But, I've been accumulating over some 40+ years.  Just don't tell the wife I ordered another.

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Michael M wrote: It's not like I really needed another book.  My railroad library consists of about 60 books right now.  But, I've been accumulating over some 40+ years.  Just don't tell the wife I ordered another.

That's nothing! While I only have around 20-30 RR books, my US numismatic literature collection is so dang big, I need a storage unit to hold it all right now. :shades:
The thing with the RR books, is the cost. Most of the really good books are close to $100 or more it seems. My last two I found for steal, but I had to wait over a year of searching and hunting for the bargains. 
My most wanted RR book at the moment, is going to be a tough one to find affordable and in the quality I'm willing to settle for; "The Shay Locomotive: Titan of timber" by Michael Koch! :shocked:
https://www.google.com/search?q=the+shay+locomotive+titan+of+the+timber&oq=the+shay+titan+of+timber

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The Truckee Donner Railroad Society has a number of books for sale (I bought a few several months back):

http://www.truckeedonnerrailroadsociety.com/store/storehome.html

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My copy of The Gilpin Gold Tram showed up.  In very good condition for being used.  Caboose 400 looks like it would be an easy build.


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