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Didn't want to abuse Woodie's patience by hijacking his Silver City Narrow Gauge thread, so I thought I'd start a new one for the Boleo Copper Co.

I should note that it will be a while before I start building any Boleo models. Part of the hope for this thread is to gather information as there really isn't that much info out there. John Kirchner's book "Baja California Railroads" is the best source of info on the line, and one of my favorite books. Since then much information has became available. Heck, even research I did a few years ago is obsolete due to the tools we have at our disposal that weren't available a few years ago.



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Howdy Duane...check out the latest entry in RAILROAD BOOKS. And no, I don't mind hijacking...the rubes who inhabit the Gila Rim area view it as "borrowing". No problemo.

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For better or worse, much of the info/photographs available about the Compagnie Boleo are found in special collections libraries in California. There are a lot of them as the railroad operated for such a long time. I can only post links to those due to copyright issues:

Whenever I've researched a railroad or mining district I kept a folder on my computer, so this approach is a little different. Perhaps I should keep a bibliography/links and update it as we go?



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Duane, read the first & only post from Herb about copyrights...the first forum on the main home page. Maybe that will help, but then you probably know what the laws are. Yes, keep links, etc. as needed.

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The University of California San Diego has the Crosby Collection, which includes a number of photos of the little Baldwins under steam in 1967:


https://library.ucsd.edu/dc/search?f%5Bobject_type_sim%5D%5B%5D=image&f%5Bsubject_topic_sim%5D%5B%5D=Baja+California+Sur+(Mexico)--Pictorial+works&f%5Bsubject_topic_sim%5D%5B%5D=Compagnie+du+Boleo--Mexico

This one was the basis for the cover watercolor on Kirchner's Baja California Railroads:
http://library.ucsd.edu/dc/object/bb6110476n/zoom/0

This is my favorite:
http://library.ucsd.edu/dc/object/bb76121985/zoom/0



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Great photos. My first impression was something like, "Couplers? We don't need no stinkin' couplers." Then, of course, I realized my provincialism was kicking in again, and I saw that they used a plate buffer and chains instead. http://library.ucsd.edu/dc/object/bb8875008w

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Simply amazing. That is some really, really ancient equipment!

Thanks for sharing this stuff. I never knew it existed. Great find!

Brian


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That loco No. 1 is interesting.  Mechanical X head boiler feed pump instead of steam injector - due to dirty &/or saline water supply perhaps ?.

Also what look like 4 bolt buffer blanking plates exactly where European/UK style buffers might have once been mounted, complete with the buffer beam side chains. Riveted, non-welded saddle tank. I don't recognise the make/model of loco - vaguely 1880's - 1890's French manufacture, maybe ?.

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Just done a spot of Internet mining. Guess what ?  Compagnie Boleo was French owned.

The mine has recently been reopened by a Korean outfit.

Bon soir,   Michael 

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Your correct-the Compagnie dy Boleo was a French company-something that is uncommon in Mexico as France and Mexico had a mixed relationship after that whole France-invading-Mexico thing. But-during the "Porfiriato"-or what Mexican historians refer to the 35-year period Porfirio Diaz ruled Mexico, Diaz encouraged foreign investment. In a nutshell Porfirio Diaz was the ultimate laissez faire president-If you had money you could do whatever you wanted to in Mexico. Since no one in Mexico had money in Mexico following 300 years of rule (read plundering) by Spain and France, this meant foreign capital-like the Compagnie du Boleo.

But, while the Compagnie du Boleo was a French company- it is accurate to describe them an early international company. The locomotives were mostly Baldwin (American) locomotives. The rolling stock and couplers were European, the employees were from all over the globe-much of the labor was either Asian and native American.



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