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Hi  (Voltage)  Herb !



Proper stuff !!


Live rails ...
...  none of all this mooodern battery powered nonsense.  :P


How does the electricity heat the water ??



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Sadly enough, I have to tell you that they used the Märklin System of current pickup even in 1879.

But..they used D.C. !

It ran on 120 - 150 Volts, picked up from flat iron straps between the rails.

A rather tiny picture of the system

Addendum:

Poor Mr. Siemens had not then realized that by changing the commutator connections, you could reverse the motor's direction.
So he had Mr. Halske make a reversible gearbox for it.




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Oh !

I get it now.

No water heating needed.

It's got this new electric-motor gadget in it !! :!:





Of course ...

... the dynamo that generates the electricity ...

... is powered by ...



A STEAM ENGINE !!  :P



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By 1881 they had thought of sticking a roof on it !



:moose:



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Yes, and this one was pure two-rail D.C.

Kinda touchy, because the running voltage was 180 Volts.

It was forbidden to walk on or cross the meter-gauge rails.

But horses couldn't read and so some of them found it very shocking indeed.




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Strange that a guy as smart as Siemens didn't realize the connection method of reversing his motor.

Perhaps his brush arrangement was off ''dead center'' for maximum speed and/or power,
and the motor frame construction wasn't conducive to that much brush movement the other way,
along with the connection reversal.

Ever have a large D.C. motor under no load ''run away'' when a field connection was lost ?
Got my attention REAL quick !!

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" horses couldn't read and so some of them found it very shocking indeed. "


:shocked:


Musta been a brisk local street trade in horse-burgers & sausages !



Perhaps it was a conspiracy to 'retire' the horses...
...they had after all, just been replaced by electricity ! :old dude:





Paris 1881


The stock-price rises a couple of points...

...THEY INVENTED THE DOUBLE DECKER !!



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" Strange that a guy as smart as Siemens didn't realize the connection method of reversing his motor "


You're right Herb ...

... he musta been a total dumb-ass !  ;)


I worked that out playing on the rug, with a busted toy-train & battery when I was a five year old !


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Si. wrote:

I worked that out playing on the rug, with a busted toy-train & battery when I was a five year old !


:us:


Some things never change,  Si. ?

(in the best possible taste of course)

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Do not forget Robert Davidson.


Who in 1837 built a battery-powered electric-loco called 'The Galvani'.

From Aberdeen, he actually lived long enough to see the works of Siemans and others.


Interestingly he used an early form of reluctance motor.

A type now coming into its own as solid-state rather than mechanical switching is possible.


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