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 Posted: Tue Aug 23rd, 2016 04:10 pm
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A short time back, I made a change to the board that automatically reduces the DISPLAYED SIZE of an image to 700 pixels wide. This was done to eliminate the almost unreadable pages that result from a large image being posted. Posting a large image caused the image to be displayed LARGE and the rest of the page tiny. While the change DID fix the display problem, it didn't change the fact that some users have to wait very long times for the images to load.

So, please resize images that are not hosted on the forum before posting links to them. Normally an image that is 700 or 800 pixels wide will be perfectly fine on a forum. If you must link to a large image, just know that the page loading will be slow for some users. Avoid the big pictures if you can. :bg:



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 Posted: Tue Aug 23rd, 2016 07:12 pm
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OK, pretty much everything I photograph for here and one other site are done in "low-rez" or whatever. I save the high falutin' photos for magazines when real money is concerned!! I do feel that there are more folks reading this site than the silly paper mags (now watch, they won't print my drivel!).

Less is more...?
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I think that the 'automation' should allow 800 pixel wide images to be displayed unaltered.

ie. if you resize a picture to 800x--- then you see exactly what you posted.

700 pixels wide is a considerable reduction in image area & is too small for most/average screens.

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800 & 640 wide images are 'standard' widths, in resize software...
...700 isn't.

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I tried 800 wide in the testing and it still made our pages 'shrink'. So I reduced the size to 700 and even the old threads with BIG pictures display properly.
Now if we can just get back the OLD topics that are missing. I think we will.

Check out page 5 of Woodie's thread and let me know if it works for you please. It has some huge pics on it and the screen looks ok as well as the images, to me anyway.

http://www.freerails.com/view_topic.php?id=6332&forum_id=17&page=5

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Hi again.

I just gave what I said above about picture sizes a bit more thought.

I said 800x--- should go through unaltered...
...because I happen to post 800x600 pictures.

It's worth considering other posters as well.
For example, Martins painting-pix. & layout are all 1024x768 pixel images I believe.

It's not unreasonable to post 1024x768 images in this day & age.
They will need 'slight' scrolling on an old 4:3 format 1024x768 screen...
...but on a modern widescreen of 1366x768 pixels, they display without any scrolling needed.

It is really the case, I believe, that in fact 1024x--- images should be displayed unaltered, without any automated resizing applied.

Any photos above 1024x--- are really the candidates for automatic resizing.

Just to use Martin again as an example.
He posts quite a lot of pictures per page & has a lot of existing pages.

With resizing of all these images now taking place, the loading time on pages like this has gone through the roof !
The Freerails server is spending all it's time at present, needlessly reducing image quality & increasing loading times.

Sometimes I've seen P.C. resize software do a blooper as well...
...instead of resizing to an exact 1024x--- it can sometimes actualy go over this by 1 or 2 pixels.
Therefore, I would in reality, set the server to let through anything under eg. 1030 wide.

I hope that makes sense.

That is the way, I think, to have the benefits of auto-resize...
...without the image quality/size falling, the loading times rocketing & the server kept busy doing all this, for no actual gain.

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Hi Ken.

I checked out Woodies page-5

I actually think as said above...
...that the two 1024x768 images on that page don't need to be auto-resized.
Nor does the 800x600 on that page.

It achieves nothing...
...just reduces image quality & size on the screen...
...and increases loading time & keeps the server needlessly busy.

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Hi again Ken.

What screen size does your computer have ?

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A couple of tips that help:

1) Most cameras have an option of adjusting how "fine" the JPEG files are, choose the lowest quality you can.  The truth is that we really don't need to see the ultra-fine details except in a few cases.

2) You can reduce the size of images on Microsoft computers by going into Microsoft Paint and cutting the image down to a manageable size.  I've had 7+ Megabyte images go to about 900 kilobytes.

3) if you are suffering from really slow load times, check your computer's settings and the internet connection.  Typing from a hotel that has 5 G connection, my computer (3 years old) can be really slow.


Oh, and about widths, peoples computer monitors have different ratios.  Mine is widescreen, so I can have a huge (about 1200px) image before it messes the screen up.  Some people have a much more narrow screen and can only handle 800px or so.

Either way, great idea to reduce images, saves space on the computer too!  Now if I can just get it to work on my blog, my blog images that get posted here won't be so bad...

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Michael Angelo just got bigger walls to paint on...
...when his hard-drive was full !

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