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Have finely decided to start my own thread, since the one I was on was someone's else's and since I have started working on the station module complex involving two stages.

My layout is based on the GSR route covering Sydney, Adelaide and Perth, another stage I will be modelling Adelaide to Darwin , GSR also go from Adelaide to Melbourne.
GSR stands for Great Southern Railway and own the famous Indian Pacific and the Ghan plus the Overland, not sure will have to find out if the Southern Spirt is still running it is a luxury train runs between Adelaide Melbourne Sydney and Brisbane. they had two NR class locos with a special Southern Spirit logo paint scheme, I own one of them.

I will also running freight trains have two separate passing loops through the station platforms.

The layout is 24ft by 54ft full run is 50metres 168 feet hope to have enough track to complete the first circuit I will aim for first, third stage will make the layout will grow to 44feet wide by 56fet long.
That stage will have the Northfork bridge on the Feather river California, is a concrete arch bridge, another passing loop and single track with a reverse loop,

Pics to follow of the mock-up point track plan, new track plan and pics of Sydney Central I am modelling, a pity the layout isn't going around the whole house as I could have another station at the front of the house.

Modelling Sydney central so I can lift the station off to make way for another station scene, the first module has being modified to do so. Stations being Broken Hill NSW Adelaide SA Cook in WA and Perth, I am working on Perth interstate terminal one platform and has a suburban island platform as well.

Busy time adding new pics to my Gallery so I post the pics on the thread.

That's the story of my dream layout, plan to have a vertical staging yard in the garden shed too, the only way to have a long layout with out those module legs which was an issue on my last modular layout.

Tony from down under

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A modular garden railway... I look forward to seeing that .
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Thanks Bob, yeah something different very popular in the UK 00 scale garden railway.

What scale are you modelling Bob, great to see members from down under.

I can't leave the layout permanently set up, hot summers have a lot to do with it and a son that is disabled in an electric wheel chair.

The module sections are plug and play, section track joins have being designed just need two screws and track line up every time, sections are coded shouldn't take long to set up. I can leave the layout set up for a few days if I want run more than one day will depend on the weather .

Busy day working on the station modules.

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Since we can't access our pic gallery I am hopping you can post a pic folder from the Browser.

Bugger can't post a pic folder, one pic per post, the pic is from Google Earth of the main line heading into East Perth terminal for the Indian Pacific end of the line.

Pic is of the down track crossing over onto the out track, third point is not far after the bridge, where the train heads onto the platform track, passing shunt track as well.

I have modelled that section of line and points, next post will the module the points are on.

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The pic is of what I am modelling on the curved section of the spiral, the track heading off to the right is the suburban mainline heading into an island platform.

Is there any other way of posting pics on the forum till the gallery is sorted out ????

This is an earlier pic since this pic I have changed the direction of the lower level track base of the spiral which is now in font of the pergola post.

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Hi Tony, I model in 7mm /O gauge these days.
Check out my threads in the O gauge folder.
I have had HO outdoors. A friend had his HO layouts outside for more than 10 years around Wynnum/Manly until he went into care.
Sounds like a lot of work, having to set it up and take it down, but if it works for you then that is all that matters.

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Hi Tony.

The photos look great.
Carry on with the attachments for now.

I wish the weather was a bit kinder here in Blightey !
I got a lotta space outside.
It just $%£&@? rains all the time !!

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It is interesting that a place with the most unsuitable weather invents and continues to breed the small scale outdoor layout more than anywhere else Si.
I think if I was in the UK it would be waterproof trains running out of a heated shed with big windows. :>)
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Hi Tony, I model in 7mm /O gauge these days.
Check out my threads in the O gauge folder.
I have had HO outdoors. A friend had his HO layouts outside for more than 10 years around Wynnum/Manly until he went into care.
Sounds like a lot of work, having to set it up and take it down, but if it works for you then that is all that matters.


Hi Bob thanks will check your thread out, I have an old Hornby clock work tank steamy in ) scale, she is going to get a new least of life. Going to add on a coach that will be battery powered soothing like the Coffee Pot in SA, I found a pic that gave me the idea.

WOW HO scale in the garden at Wynnum Mainly Brisbane, do you have any pics of your friend and your outdoor same scale layout

Bob over in England 00 scale garden railway is very popular, I have seen pics on another forum of blokes running trains in the snow with no problems.

I have just come back home form a train club committee meeting the other side of Brisbane Zillmere, takes an hour to get there from Ipswich, didn't run any trains as next Saturday I am duty office be there all day.

Tony from south east QLD

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Hi Si, awesome you are from the UK, some good news in England 00 scale garden railway is very popular scale, there is another forum in the UK you can check out I can give you the direct link.

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It is interesting that this thread still works. I had to make a new one to continue to post and I get reminders of new posts on other threads that I cannot find.

I don't think I took any photos of my HO layout but I might have some of Ian's in the second place it was located. If I find I will post here. It was used to run most anything that would run on HO track (HO,OO,SN42,ON30).

I visited the AMRA club rooms a couple of times when I worked in Brisbane.

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Hi Bob, yeah Si was says the same on another thread when the forum crashed, I checked the old garden railway thread I was using and all my pics are still there.

What year where you in Brisbane I joined AMRA in 2,000, there was an Ipswich HO scale club but that one closed down pity, The N scale section is still going could change gauges.

When we have quiet days at the club we get a chance to run very long trains, here is a video clip of my double stack container train. OH yeah I plan to double even triple the size of this train longer the better on my layout with 35foot passing loops.

My Indian Pacific is 1 cars long with two NR class locos, I did do a video be stuffed it up, will be doing one next Saturday depending on how busy AMRA's layout is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-W1n1xYhNE

I bought the latest Indian Pacific NR class NR18 with the newest colour scheme from Austrains, I only have one other NR that will double head but I have to replace the spring on the kadee, busy week.
I also have the famous Flying Scot and that loco has duel tenders and guess what the water tender is powered as well and can pull 11++ coaches, before next Saturday I will be replacing the draw bar between the two tenders with Lima stile couplers.

Enjoy the video clip, my dream train.

Tony

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I can't remember the exact year at the moment but would have been around the turn of the century Tony. I was only there about 6 months. I have been back a couple of times since when in Brisbane visiting relo's.
I have been in and out of AMRA since the 1970's. This is currently my third period of membership.
Having done some Qld modelling in both HO and S in past years I was able to have some interesting chats with the locals.

Sounds like you have a wide collection of trains Tony. Thanks for the link.

I found the club layout a bit of a mixture at the time. I think the HOn42 track was about to be dismantled. I did visit a couple of other clubs that had a more cohesive approach. One was generic US prototype and the other NSWGR. Both HO.
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I have come across a link that I used to use down loading pics to the forum called Photo shank, is in the top 10 free sharing programmes from Google.

Here we go.



The first pic is of the Indian Pacific East Perth interstate station platform and I do have a HO scale version of the loco NR28{Port Augusta}

The second pic is what I am modelling, the reason for the cut piece of ply, is will lift out to become a different station scene



The island platform is a suburban platform and I will be modelling the platform as well

In the second pic that is what the three tracks to the right of the pic is heading into the island platform and the third one is a freight passing loop.



Bingo I am back in business, working well downloading pics, I will quit whike the going is good.

I will still use the browser for larger pics like Google Earth.

I must of deleted the GE pic of East Perth station, will get another one.

On a high, Tony from down under:2t::rah::glad:

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Hi Bob, how was yesterday busy or quiet day, I didn't do much other than get the curve sections out and screw hinges onto the legs so I can fold them out the way, am thinking of having permeant posts in the garden where I can, where the spiral goes on the pathway I can't have a post, the curve sections were too hard to store away in the garden shed much easier.

Once all the 6 station modules are finished and stacked up on their sides the curves will sit on top of them, be nice if I had a second shed for my wood lather which is taking up a lot of room in the shed.

I am using Photo Shank to download photos to the forum did use it till I found the gallery , much the same way.

Working on the station modules today cutting the legs to size , the legs will fold up inside the module frame.

Tony

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Tony, I have been busy with the start of lawnmowing season and have had some r/c flying fiends over lately so not much happening on the railway. However lawn care is scenic development for an outdoor railway. :>)
I also had a sizeable branch from next door's tree to remove off the layout after the storm.
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Hi Bob, our grass isn't growing much at the moment, but the is green, lack of rain, rain coming in this week.

Talk about mowing I just bought a new mower, Ryobi 36volt 18inch cut, I changing fully over to 36volt power in the garden. No more mixing two stroke petrol, no more oil storage only for the chain saw be either battery or electric, doing my bit to save this planet. will sell the Rover mower blower-vac and chair saw, that will give me enough money to buy a 36volt Ryobi blower-vac, not in a hurry to buy a chain saw was bought to timber logs for wood turning have my own wood lathe.

Into radio control flying awesome , what sort of models do you fly, I have a friend that is into model flying, he was telling me you even need wingd to fly model planes , he got his wings late last year.

I would love to move into model flying, one or the other, would go for a Harrier jump jet be fun or V22 Osprey

I am lucky there isn't any tress that would cause any problem with my layout, be in trouble if the tree behind the garden shed came down, by, by layout module, I have insurance.

Tony from down under.

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Here is a Google earth pic of East Perth Indian Pacific terminal, the length of the platform is 686.61 meters long the longest platform in Australia.
In HO scale be 6.535 metres and in feet 21ft6inchs WOW I don't think I could fit the platform even on my layout, long enough to take 28 passenger cars.



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Tony, you only need a train long enough that it looks right not one that is right.
It might be some years before I get back to Brisbane. Caring takes up quite bit of time, I know.

I am planning to replace my mower and lawn edger with electric models too. The Victa 80V range is my preferred one but it depends how flush I am when it comes time. Same with the car, but I'll have to wait until the current ones wears out. By then I hope there will be plenty of used electric vehicles in the lots :>)

I fly electric sport models and teach some of the locals. You need insurance at most fields to fly, the wings bit can be useful or not. As safety officer at our site I just oversee a newcomer and if they show me they can competently handle their plane they are right to go, otherwise it is onto the buddy box. You learn to fly with trainer aircraft and work your way up to those that require more skill. An electric foamie glider and a free online flight simulator with usb adaptor for your transmitter will see you learn the basics at minimal cost and tears.

Ipswich did have a model railway club at the museum, I assume that is the one that no longer exists.
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Hi Bob, I just love long trains, will be good on the spiral to see the loco head into the spiral tunnel when the rest of the train is on top of the spiral. A friend from AMRA wants to come over and run his two big boys and a 107 freight cars be pure awesome, I am modelling the spiral on the famous Tehachapi loop, without the cutting.

Did you come on the Friday of the train show and help set that layout up, you would of had to go to the front desk at the main entrance, the bloke sitting on the left was me.

Haven't sold my other petrol tools as yet buying those white plastic off cut sheets you can buy from Bunning tomorrow and make up a for sale sign ready for Friday and he weekend.

Bunning didn't have a big range of the 80volt Victa 80V range, in the US they have in the Ryobi mower a 20inch 72volt, be awesome as usual we are behind.

You said you are a carer, do you work as a carer for a mob or family. I have a son that is disabled and he is 30 now, 24/7 care wheel chair bound and on permeant ventilation.
I can only manage to do a few hours here and there, but hopping to get stuck into the layout next week, taking for ever at the moment, will get there, not giving up this layout is my dream layout.

First week of October my mum and elder sister is taking me down to Canberra to visit the was museum , have a great Uncle in the WW1 section and going back by train to Sydney will get a change to see Sydney Central station what I am modelling as a station, be spending a few hours taking pics and some measuring if I can, counting the days to the adventure.

Yes that is right, but the N scale side still goes under the same name, they have their own club rooms now, no more HO scale shame.

I would love to start up a new HO scale club one day, a lot of work.

Tony

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Bolivia was exhibited years back Tony.
Spent the last 4 years full time with my mother.
War museum is brilliant. The ARHS has a good collection at Kingston and I think two of the model clubs have rooms there.
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Sorry about your Mum, Bob--but it is good in many ways that you are able to spend time with her


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Hi Bob, good you are taking care of your mum and she isn't in a nursing home, wee would never put our son in on after all the stories you hear about and some just resent.

If anything happened to us we would make sure he goes into independent living with blokes with the same condition.

Ok did you go to the train when it was at the Ekka.

The ARHS has a book shop at Sydney Central will check them out, there is a second book on Sydney Central station.

well under way with the station modules, I cut the module legs to size and drilled the hols and bolted them on quite sturdy when moving the module in place.




First pic is showing how I bolted the first station module to the corner spiral module



Second pic is looking at the bus wiring plugs, they will be hidden when Sydney central station is set up.
The piece of ply behind the leg will have to be cut into a L shape that is where the road be going and bus station.






Fourth pic is showing the countersunk bolts, there will be another module going behind it.




Last pic the light colour ply will lift out when Sydney Central is set up to show the entrance to the tunnel walk way o the platforms.

I am modelling east Perth terminal where the Indian Pacific finishes her three day journey across Australia.

The next two station modules bee easy to set up and level, I am aiming to comple the whole front of the layout connecting to the car port section, WOW, so close but still heaps more ahead.

On a high , Tony from down under
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Tony this is a fantastic build thread!  Glad you took the advice to have an independent thread.

You'd need acres of land to accurately model the prototype, but it looks like you've figured that out quite quickly.  Keep up the good work, it's a lot easier to find your layout progress now that you've got your own thread.

I'll be watching this because I might just do something similar, so thank you for the inspiration!

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Modules are coming along nicely there Tony.

ARHS bookshop had to go back to Redfern so you will have to have a little walk from Redfern or a longer one from Central.

I haven't been to the Brisbane exhibition for some years. I made the Sydney diamond anniversary one with some help with mum from relo's.

Thanks, brevity can be a curse.. My mother is still alive but I recently had to put her in a nursing home as her care got beyond what a son could do. I feed her lunch everyday.
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Many thanks James, the feed back will get me more motivated now, yeah I got the inspiration from Trevor's thread as South Australia is simular in climate in summer to Ipswich QLD.

I will have to agree what you are saying now and great you are thinking of building a HO scale outdoor layout.
Wish our yard is flat as I could do what you said around the whole yard front and back be awesome, I did at one time planning to run around the whole hose came own to money on a budget.

Be looking forward to see you start a thread in the 00/HO scale garden railway.

Many thanks for the kind words James.

Tony from down under :Salute:

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Hi Bob, thanks be awesome when the station modules are finished and levelled, finished by next weekend,then I can work on the entrance module where most of the points are on.

And the final gap between that module and car port end, can't complete the final gap to the station modules are levelled.

Big day out at the train club, got the Flying Scot duel tenders sorted out with kadee's, running passenger trains, only one freight train.

That is sad to hear about ARHS having to move was looking forward o checking hem out.

That would of being a hard decision to make putting your mum in a nursing home, good you still go there daily to give her lunch, great stuff.

Being raining here all day how about Glen Innes.

Bye from Tony.

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Hi Tony.

Looking good !

28 car platform !!

At my local station, when they stopped a train longer than 12 cars...
...they had signs right up against the windows...
...telling the passengers not to get out, or they'd fall on the track !!
Electric doors now of course.

May the sun shine in Ipswich.
Ipswich here has some good weather !

:moose:

Si.

Hope they got more than 1 bathroom on those 28 car trains...
...it's a long walk after a few V.B.s other wise !

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Hi Si thanks can't wait to the big day the first test train will roll out of the station, so close but still far away.

Over here the passengers are told to make their way through the carriage's to the cars at the platform, that is why Perth is so long Adelaide they use two platforms same with Sydney. That will be stage two of the station module build.

Yes in the sit up carriages there are two toilets,{bathrooms} at each end the sleeper cabins they have their own toilets, not sure of the lounge car and dinner car, will have to ask my mum she did the Indian Pacific trip in May.

Thanks to Eddie I now can see gallery in menu, just a matter of clicking a box, but changed the forum page to a blue boarder .

The remote mouse doesn't like the change or could need a new battery.

I did a video of my Indian Pacific yesterday at the train club have to upload to you tube today thanks to NBN it only takes 5 minutes before over half an hour.

Si do you live in Ipswich UK, awesome, the old train club in Ipswich had ties with the club over there, they are no more, shame, the Brisbane club takes an hour drive from my place.

Tony from down under

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Thanks to all the Admin guys we have the gallery back, looks like just a simple fix, I could of changed quite a while back.

To celebrate I have downloaded my pride and joy, Flying Scotsman 4472 powered duel tenders.
I decided to change the draw bar to kadee's was having too many problems with the draw bar, test ran the loco on Saturday at my train club, I did have the 11 coaches but was having problems with them. Will have to bite the dust and change the couplers from the bogies to body mounted, big job.



First pic I still have to put in a coupler box, the brass shaft that is used to pick up the main drive wheels, will cut it to size an bolt the coupler box to the now water tender.







It is good to back in business uploading and posting pics

On a high, working on the second station module today, have to cut and screw in place the two ends and middle beams. Then I can bolt it to the first module level and mark the module legs, third module is already made up just need the same.

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well under way, finished the second station module all I need to do now is set the two modules up where they go and level the second module, mark the legs and cut them.

I may piggy back the second module since I have used 3/8 inch bolts only need one set of legs and the same with the third station stage one.
The third module is already made up hopefully finish the station modules the weekend and set up whole front of the layout from the car port to the spiral be an awesome site indeed.











The last pic the pinkish colour module is the third module for the station complex, there will be another three to complete the whole station complex 6 modules.

Once I have made up all the station modules those curved sections will sit onto of the modules, modules are 2ft wide.

Keep posted on the post for the latest up dates.

It was very sad to hear Gene Wilder passed away last week,
I managed a couple of years back bought his movie Silver Streak, had to buy a region 2 copy, can only play it on the lap top the new VCR's coming out today over here can't play all region anymore, top movie worth while getting a copy.


Tony from down under warming up over here.

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If you have a name brand Japanese DVD player it may not play all regions but google up 'region free' for the model of your DVD and you might find an unlock procedure. I just buy at the cheaper end these days as the lasers wear out in all of them and it cheaper to throw them than replace the laser. They also play all region.

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Hi Bob I had a look on the net about Google UP free region, it was the lap top I was using and I can't under stand that that movie played in region 2 is what I set the lap top to I think region 1 is US.

Did a windows 10 update and that update stuffed up Power DVD took out a couple of files, we had to do a restore back a couple of day and that fixed the problem, will wait for the next windows update.

I have an older Panasonic DVD player and it is all region will set that one up, got three HDMI connections on the TV but will have to block the other one as it is a Panasonic as well.

All goes well I will be finishing the first three of the station modules the weekend and then setting up the other modules that complete the front of the layout WOW

Oh yeah I sold my petrol garden tools and with that money I bought the 36volt Ryobi blower/vac pretty awesome, no more mixing two stroke, will get the chain saw later if I do, don't really need one, I would like to get the 18volt tree lobber.

Being raining here today, storms Sunday afternoon.

Tony.

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Hi Tony.

Lookin' good dude !!

No, I don't live in Ipswich, but it's not far away.

I saw you had a bit of bother Posting in the other HO/OO garden Thread.
You were right there was a difficulty, that thread can't start a new page.

Keep up the good work & SUNNY DAYS !

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Hi Si yeah I sure did, thank you for fixing the error, I am glad then I took James's advise starting my onw thread.

Got some more pics from todays carpenters gang , was a slow start but I finished the second station module was hopping to set up the final module of stage one of the station complex. Will have to wait till mid week now rain coming in tomorrow, they say we will cop about 50mm good for the grass, I am itching to try out he new mower.







I decided to pre stand the second module easier to line up to put in the bolts.

Thanks Si I still have heaps more ahead can only work on the layout every few days, be good if I could spend a whole week on it.

Have to get some more countersunk bolts with wing nuts this week this is where the little costs add up.

Tony from down under:2t::glad:

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"Aiming to have my outdoor layout up and running buy Christmas or just after Christmas depending if I need more ply, be asking for Bunning Boucher's"

Had a chuckle with that one Tony, my kids get cranky when I suggest Bunnings 'vouchers' for Xmas or birthdays, they always say they want to give a present I will cherish, and I always say a voucher will help me get my railway done, and I 'will definitely' cherish that! They are slowly coming around to my way of thinking.

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Hi Wayne, that's ok, I have for a while being asking for money for my birthday buy what I want, my mum wont do that for Christmas gift card is the next best thing.

Planning a 24ft long double deck cable stay bridge modelled on the Oresund bridge between Denmark and Sweden or may be model an US bridge which is a double deck bridge much older bridge would like amore modern bridge design.

Will need lots of 4mm dowel and more ply can buy 3metre lengths at Bunning, may not have enough ply to complete the track circuit.

I forgot to mark the measurements before setting the station modules in place an inch out no wounder the modules aren't lining up properly, easy fix.

Have changed the design of the back track of the layout and shifted the back corner so there is a lift bridge and the road will look close to the real scene on the Oresund bridge.

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Have come across the best pic yet of the double deck cable stay bridge I will be building on the back of the layout.



First up I made sure Oresundsbron wasn't some ones name is the name f the bridge, the paying booths are on the Swedish side, the island at the top of the pic is man made and the road and rail go into a tunnel. They did that because of the airport on the Danish side.

I am only modelling the main span with the towers, island at the other end and the same at the bottom of the pic, sadly I can't model the bridge as you see it there is a bloody pergola post in the way other end. The curve of the bridge be facing the other way and won't be having the paying booths be automatic paying with a bridge across both roads we have them over here, we have a tag on the windscreen and that is picked up by scanning cameras on the bridge tower, there is that bad word again technology

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8jnMuCDmUk

Here is a good you tube video of a train passing through on the rail deck, shows the where the cables join into the support beams.

Big day today finishing off the last station module stage one of the station complex, pics to follow tomorrow when I set up the whole front of the layout from car port to spiral, WOW, long time at this build.

Tony from down under.

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At long last, I finely cut the last piece of ply to fill the gap of the track decking on Sunday on a high.

Saturday I cut the legs of the last station module and set it up in place to move onto the two modules between the corner module of the car port to the station module.

The next carpenters department job be cutting the ply to build the frame work of those two modules, that won't happen to the second week of October, first week I am going down to Canberra to visit the war museum and head back to Sydney by train to visit Sydney Central, be awesome, lots of pics.




Should of used the goo SLR digital camera, I tried to moodily the pic to show the bubble in the middle of the level was level.






Third pic looks like the decking drops down on an slope it doesn't the slope of the floor makes it loop that way.




I would of had the spiral corner module set up and spiral but thanks to rain stopped me from doing so.

Will be painting the three station modules this week and marking them which way the go, have marked the floor as well, hopefully with all the section coded it wont take long to set up, wiring is plug and play.

On a very big high and a pity I changed the design of the layout year back would of had trains running by now.

Tony from down under. :glad::wave::2t::slow:

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I love these mock-up's on checking to see how the points fit on the track plan before nailing them down and drilling the holes for the point motor's.

Also comes in handy when needing to buy more points and cross overs, I need one more single slip and one medium point.






The diamond cross over will be replaced with a single slip to be moved to the next module.

There is access to all five platforms from the main line the first platform with three tracks between the platform, even the three way point has being used.

Not sure if I will motorise the points, the control panel will be close by, not sure if I will have a control pane for each block .

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I spent sometime fixing as best I could a collection of used Peco dead frog points for a mate who is building his first model railway over the last couple of days.
Plenty of inventive solutions are being applied to these and some old live frog ones to wire them properly but he will have saved quite a few dollars in the process.
It will be even more interesting when his son begins the build of a MERG DCC system.
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Hi Bob, how do you wire up dead frog points do you need a DPDT switch, the Peco three way dead frog is a night mare to wire up with all those wires, I know enough to get by with on DC

Will have to check out this MERG DCC, have to win the lotto to change over.

I am looking at using a remote control to operate a throttle on the layout so my disabled son can come out and run a train, getting the right remote????

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Basically you need the frog switched for all points unless you are prepared to have a dead section at the frog Tony. I liven up the frog by cutting and hard wiring in the necessary places. If you only intend to run diesels or long steamers with pickups on all wheels the frog should not need to be live. However the closure rails and point rails need to be wired permanently to the adjacent stock rails if you have DCC and its not a bad idea for reliability for DC. This will prevent the DCC booster from tripping when a wheel touches the open stock/closure rail on occasions causing a momentary s/c. Not a big issue with dinosaur control, you just get a big spark. :>;) The frogs on his layout will be be switched by small DPDT switches that also set the point blades e.g. Jaycar SS0852. The link is made from paper clips. My O gauge uses that system for the handmade track and microswitches operated by the throwbar on the Peco points. The MERG system choice was suggested by me as a father/son project as his eldest is not really into trains but is into electronics and computer programming. The MERG kit system is aimed at electronics enthusiasts who like fine soldering. If that doesn't work out he will probably buy Digitrax because I have it. That, NCE or Lenz are all good choices. When it comes to wireless controls it depends on what system you are running. Some DCC systems have radio throttle options and some have also got ways to connect a smartphone with a throttle app. Very little is available for DC, I have used a few and the only commercial one I was satisfied with was made once in Victoria by Radio Train Electronics (have a look at the back pages of some previous AMRA journals for the ad). It is horses for courses with control systems. I ran for years with my Digitrax with just a couple of chipped locos. The ability to run one unchipped loco(or consist) at a time meant I could run all my locos without bankrupting myself and still enjoy the ease of multiple user control that DCC offered. These days I have all my locos chipped. cheers BobC

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The other option is to have one dedicated battery /radio loco for your son ( his train ), it could be run on Deltang or Bluerails depending on need for sound. cheers Bob

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Hi Bob I will be sticking to the insulfrog points no wiring but still need those plastic joiner's the passing loops.

http://www.deltang.co.uk/

I came across one link what you are talking about but what one to get, will chat to the garden railway blokes next time I go to AMRA, some of them use aircraft radio controllers.

What a perfect day, mowing the foot path and back yard going to test out the mulch side of the mower, got rid of most of the weeds in the grass.

Tomorrow is the big day starting my adventure to Canberra, I am hopping the WW1 railgun is at the war museum or they might be able to give me some info can see a new scratch building coming, was on display at Sydney Central station in the 1920's.

Be looking forward to the train from Canberra o Sydney as well be taking video of course.


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Enjoy your trip Tony.
Hope you have plenty of warm clothes. :>)

I used to do the train run from Canberra to Sydney on a regular basis before they started flying me in the early 70's.

The Deltang transmitters are available made up from various suppliers. Some in Oz.
The Blurails uses an Ipad or similar.
Choice of transmitter might be down to your son's abilities. Hopefully there is something to suit.

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Hi Bob, thanks I will, yeah have a very good jacket that will keep that cold wind out, problem is going from 17 degrees to 24 in Sydney, 3 over night at least the unit has air-con.

I found the Blurails link it looks like you need DCC to run it I won't be switching to DCC so stuck with DC all that extra wiring to run more than one train on a block system but lots of fun with other friends.

Yeah AMRA QLD branch on their DCC run Wi-Fi and I have an iPhone app, thinking of buying a NCE remote controller so I don't use the iPhone wears the battery down pretty quickly.

Have two locos with DCC on board one DD40AX and a Thaly's TGV 10 car set both locos powered.

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No, Blurails is direct control. No DCC required.
If you have a battery/radio equipped loco then you can have two operators running trains without throwing electrical switches.
I did it that way decades ago before buying into DCC.

Perhaps a cheap s/h phone or pad off feebay might also be a choice. If you run that flat at least your phone still works if needed.

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Hi Bob, WOW Blurail be the way to go then , they are in the process of building them for Australian and US use.

My remote controllers brand is RCS I am not sure if the bloke is still going, got two of them, one for each transformer.

A lot of AMRA members use iPads, my wife has a new iPad will use her old one to save on the phone battery, the app I use as a basic one , you have to pay for the double control running two locos.

Heavy cloud cover here rain coming in today.

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RCS is still alive and kicking.
Tony posts in the rc pages here, he is now in Casino.
http://www.rcs-rc.com/
He manufactures gear based on Deltang these days.

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Hi Bob sadly I am back home again, wasn't long enough say in Canberra, need two days just as the War Museum and we had to pic the worsted day to visit, it was raining and very cold. Sunday would of being a better day but still very windy had to rugged up both days.

Lots of pics on the iPhone, iPad and SLR camera which I didn't charge up very well for the trip in the Explorer DMU train from Canberra to Sydney was a dam good trip 11 tunnels very hilly and lots of steep cutting as well, good line to model.

Thanks for the link of RCS will contact him to see if he can help, to modify the older RCS remote transformer.

Saw the wind turbine farm, got one good pic from the iPhone.

Tony from SE/QLD, more pics to follow

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Finely did a good video of my Indian Pacific at my train club last Saturday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cQ3DeE7nj8

My Indian Pacific leading loco NR18 with the new IP logo and paint scheme, only one NR with the paint scheme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eShqTVueEkU

Last video clip is of my spine car trailer train head loco is AC/4400 triple headed with two other locos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBm-6kExYnw

Enjoy Tony from SE/QLD:2t:

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The first link goes to another video Tony.

I assume you are doing this on your phone.
Try getting down lower to shoot if you can, I think you will find the results improved over helicopter shots. The train gets the scenery in the background that way.
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Hi Bob, yeah that's the only problem with you tube there are a heaps more other peoples links as well some good some not, can't do much about that the only way you can load on video links is you tube to this and any other forums.

Yes I used my iPhone 6s, full HD cant get any better that that, I reckon the smart phone will take over the digital SLR cameras, iPhone 7 has even abetter camera.

I had trouble trying to film and controlling my train with a hand controller, should of used the clubs remote controller and the train run around the whole layout nonstop make sure the points are set. I have the same remote control will do the same thing be a bit harder a foot from the ground.

Oh year I had an issue with my first password it wouldn't log on got a second password and the same till my wife logged the pass word and it worked soon after that it worked on the laptop pain in the bum, this password back to old one

Posted some up to date pics of my modules for the layout getting there, not well at the moment don't think I will get chance to do any work tomorrow.

Tony from SE/QLD keeping on moving aheard

I will try to change

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I think you are correct in assuming that the DSLR will no longer be the choice for home/travel photography. I ditched mine in 1980 for a good quality point and shoot. Only kept an SLR (later DSLR) for model photography.

The phone camera replaces the little point and shoot for many people and the home video camera too. Most phone shots won't print as even a 6x4 glossy however. You don't need as many dots to fill a pc screen up as you do a small photo.
About 2M pixels minimum for a 6x4.The latest iphone7 does have enough pixels to print a bit bigger.

Not such an issue theses days as photo sharing has changed to more social media and uploading to friends/family phones than showing slides or prints in your photo album.

Good luck with your password.
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Hi Bob yeah you will only see top photographer using SLR's I was going to buy Nikon camera even with the zoom lens it wasn't as good as the SLR Fujifilm camera 1400 full digital zoom 750 normal zoom. What I need to buy a night filter to take pics of the moon too bright have tried changing different setting didn't work and want a wide angle lens too handy when taking pics of layouts and family.

Hope when it cool down later on this afternoon I get a chance in levelling the approach module, marking and cutting the legs, fingers crossed.

Will only be running trains in the cooler months summer no don't know what the heart of the sun will do to the locos.

Bingo I changed my password back to my old one.

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Good to hear you got your password problems sorted.

I have never needed a filter to do moon shots.
Have a look at a site such as this.
http://www.lightstalking.com/how-to-photograph-the-moon/

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Hi Bob, was a cooler day today till was warm in the middle of the day I waited till late afternoon before I undid the bolts and puled away the last station module,
I set up the last module forgot to take a pic will wait till I join up the carport module then take a pic so nearly there for the front of the layout long time coming working out well .

Thanks for that link on the moon, after reading the story I will put in a search on my camera to see what setting I have to change.

this pic is how my moon pics turn out like.

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Hi Tony.
Hope things are goin' good down under !
Here's the Moon from my place.
Lumix u4/3rds, Tamron 200mm lens + Two 2x flat-field convertors.
Actually had to 'pan' the camera on the tripod.
The Moon moves pretty FAST with that lens combo !
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Hi Si, good to hear from you, any snow fall where you are in London yet, can send some snow my way to cool it down being bloody hot, in the very high 30's over the weekend and also humid, layout is at a stand still, can't even work in under the pergola being 35 degrees.
Hope you are ok in the UK , I am fine thankyou
Nice camera I had one of those lens  that doubled the zoom on another camera years back, my camera I have now I need to buy a tripod as well I can't hold it in place in full zoom 1400mm.
What setting did you use on your camera to get that pic and shutter speed, I am jealous.
Have you had any sign of snow where you live in London, send some my way to cool the hot days down being to dam hot and humid. This Saturday is going to be cooler but I will be at my train club, rostered on duty officer, be nice in the club rooms with 7 AC's both sides of the layout.
You guys have being busy over the weekend lots of new setting to test out, guess what I can't open any of the bottom new ones, bloody windows 10, still can't access the Gallery square, very disappointed.

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Hi Tony :wave:

You can have all the damn snow from me you want ! ;)
Stuff is a nightmare here, when it comes !!
2 years back, spent Christmas & Boxing Day with NO ELECTRIC :f:
Should get a generator really.

Tony, I think the camera may well have been set on maximum aperture for the lens-convertor combo.
ASA, maybe about 400.
Shutter-speed, perhaps around 1/30.
Fairly easy to find a workable combination.
Bloody cold that night though.
Very clear air & winter sky though.

Sorry to hear you are having problems with Windows-10.
We haven't changed any settings here at Freerails in fact at all.

You should see the 'G' if your 'Theme' is set to either 'AI Blue' or 'Ultra'.
Check your 'Themes' in the Preferences Menu.
Or of course, attachments are Postable using the button at the bottom of the Posting window as well.
Your Moon was done like that, I see.

Good luck with Windows-10, new software can sometimes be a bitch.

:moose:

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Stay C O O L and near the air-con. ;)

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Hi Si, by all means would have to have a refrigerated container to send the snow, ha, ha ;)
Thanks for the advice on the camera setting will give that a go, I use the ASA 400 setting a lot, in some ways I should of bought a Cannon camera for manual focus, mine is auto and can zoom in manual mode.
I have the setting set in Ultra have that nice blue colour, what I do is I save the  gallery link in my favourites easy to access the gallery pics  form there.
Got a cool change coming in this weekend can't do any work on the layout Saturday  duty officer at my train club Sunday is even cooler 28 degrees will make the most of finishing off the last approach module to the station modules, pics to follow. Gee it has take me 2 and a half years to get this far, hopefully have a train running by March might see me jumping un and down.:cb::bg::slow:. That is the whole front of the layout with the spiral to the car port.
Tony, keep warm.

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Have finely finished levelling the last two approach modules northern end cut the legs to size and screwed them in temporary till next week where I will drill the hols and countersunk them for the quarter inch bolts plus screw in place a hinge so the leg can fold inside the module.
Sadly I can't access pics from my gallery without a page coming up Free rails needs info from you- image URL, what does this mean now, will have to go back to one pic per page bugger, hopefully get sorted out., I can't access the G for gallery unless I changee to Chrome instead of windows 10.
Not far now off now next week after Christmas will set up all the front modules and spiral, also have got cut out the decking doing down past the car onto to a 8ft curve radius onto the back corner module onto the cable stay bridge. I have cut a jig for the level for a 2 percent grade or can level the track to the bridge., the bridge will have a higher clearance to water line.

Merry Christmas, Tony from down under

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Merry Christmas to everyone in Free rails .
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Sadly I can't change my windows from Edge to IEP or Firefox my son said not a good idea will upset my circuity only one pic per post until another update in Google or windows fix the problem.
 Have done some more work on the layout seeing how the track bed decking fit to the changes in the track plan, have cut the length back two feet works out better in the car port area with the 7foot radius curve. Got plans for a back scene covering the back of the car and a curved single track viaduct look good.
Will have to figure out which way I will go with my control panel if I go one panel per block and walk around cab switching to radio control, hoping to share two 6amp transformers for the power to the layout need advice there, using rotary switches to control each throttle

Pic two is where the back corner module joins onto the cable stay bridge
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Pic three is where I plan to have the foot curve viaduct and mountain back scene

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Pic four is the view of the track beside the car again I can have a mountain cutting  scene there as well  will a small tunnel on the curve track
The next job now is the level the track to a 2 percent grade, 1 in 50 I have being told and have made a special jig works out quarter inch a foot to easy, there is a level you can buy that has the attachment be pretty dear to buy.
No work today and the weekend be too dam hot Saturday peaking 40 degrees today is peaking 35 degrees, cooler week next week, be working on my second railway station.
 Happy new year to everyone, Tony from down under

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If anyone from OZ has Netflix, they have a rail doco on Norwegian rail called Bergen to Solo 7 hours of pure magic the best cab ride I have scene this line goes through the mountains so lots of tunnels snow sheds and the scenery is mind blowing changing all the time
I also found the doco on you tube if anyone is interested I will post the link on the next email it took four nights to watch the doco, in the mean time I found another link that has pics and a map plus a video clip to watch not all of the line, the doco was made to do with a 100 years of the line.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergen_Line 


Happy new year to everyone in OZ and everyone else tomorrow night their time.
Tony from down under :Salute::2t::bow::glad::thumb::cool::bg:;)

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Just remember not to back the car out at the wrong time Tony. :>;) Good work getting your extra power to the Pommie loco. Always a problem with plastic bodies and lots of carrying wheels taking what little traction there is away from the drivers. I can't remember any mechs being suitable for building a 60 class. Maybe you might come across an old DJH kit unbuilt for sale. Given you seem to have stuff from all over the place, if you just want a Garratt perhaps look into the pommie one (LMS?), might be able to make use of a couple of cheap OO mechs! all the best Bob

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style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"Good one Bob, it happens be easy just unplug the bus wires and undo a couple of screws and lift  the two sections out the way.
Thanks I be on the look out for a couple of cheap megs, need the bogies as well, problem with the 00 scale megs the wheel size, I have seen pics of the LMS one.
I have a few projects I want to finish next year , the  UP DD35 make up the hand rails paint and put on decals, loco has two motors., matches up with my DD40 loco
Same to you Bob,, going to be a stinker here today, redrawing the rack plan  in the oool lounge room.
Tony

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Sadly I can't even use my sons computer to upload pics to my post very disappointing I did what  John said to do what is so frustrating is I could open my folder from the Gallery button but when I left clicked the pic it came up with a system error, end of that idea.:bang:
Looks like back to one pic or each post, bugger, I am still trying to con my wife into letting me buy an ex-government Lap top
Thanks for your help John:Salute:
I will have to do series of three post with one pic at a time, showing different angles of the second station building I will be modelling.
The station is East Perth terminus where the famous Indian pacific ends her journey across Australia three nights.

First pic is the front view from car park
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This pic is is a closer view the car past and front entrance
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Third pic is  the platform  entrance, my version be slightly different  with not so much detail take too long to build  and hard trying to copy from a pics.
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Hi Tony :wave:


Nice to see the pix.

I checked the new photos that you uploaded to your Gallery.

At this end, here I can click on all of the recent ones & see them enlarged as normal.

You have obviously uploaded them, totally fine.

The puzzle is still ...

... why your computer won't let you click on them normaly ?

Mmm...

Damn 'puters is all I can say.

Oh well, the pix are up & here, which is good.


Personaly, I always show 1 photo per Post.

Many users have SLOW connections & Pages with zillions of photos on are simply a pain in the butt !

I very OFTEN terminate Pages like that, on my cellphone, since if they contain a ridiculous amount, like 15 MegaBytes of images, they have INSANE loading times, unless you have fibre up your . . .

All the best.


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I am still trying to con my wife into letting me buy an ex-government Lap top

If the one you have still works try installing Linux, probably you will be surprised with improvement.... and it's free.
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Hi Jose, is Linux  a photo hosting programme could you sent me the link, the Aussie link you have to pay a monthly fee depends if it is the same mob, Linux.com.au.
There is another photo hosting called imgur, my son said it is meant for forum posting not all lost.. My son said he will send me the link to Imgur


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Here is the next set of three pics of East Perth terminus station pics
Looking over from the suburban platform bridge where the Indian Pacific pulls into
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Pic two is of the northern end entrance to the station building.
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Final pic of series two is of the Indian Pacific ready to depart back to Sydney via Adelaide.
I actually have this loco NR28 by Austrains, nice loco, but now has a different colour scheme can't keep up
The platform is the longest platform in Australia can hold 28 passenger cars, you can check it out on Google Earth.
Where the train will change to Sydney Central , I am modifying the module so that the  section with the loco and few coaches lift out to a pedestrian  walk way from the road level SC to  access  the suburban platforms, that's the plan , more pics to follow.
Enjoy, Tony from down under
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Hi Si, What a bugger you can't just save the link of just the first set of 6 pics would could that happen.
At least I can access some of those top squares a pity about the main, I think I may be back in business joining a hosting mob that changes your pic into an URL link.
OH yeah the last pic I posted is  my favourite pic, a pity it has copy right didn't notice till it was too late, can you delete it, or will it be ok  thanks, Indian  Pacific train, with the blue loco. (EDIT - photo deleted as requested - JG Mod)

The only problem with one pic per post you go through a lot of post.
We are still having a mild January, ok in under cover but in the afternoon the humidity gets you, how are you coping with winter bloody cold.
tomorrow  I be back on my layout modifying a  module the will become two different station scenes by lifting the station building and some platform out the way, can't wait to run my first train probably being a freight train, stay tunned .
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Use wikimedia commons - the pictures there are all free. E.g. this one: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:NR28_%2B_IP_Mt_Lawley,_2014(1).JPG?uselang=en

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Thanks Si I found another pic of Indian Pacific ready to depart of a sister loco, only showing a couple of cars and East Perth terminal building in the back ground, this pic doesn't have copy right.
Hoping to get out and finish modifying the first station module that will become a different station scene, the weather is going to slow work down being raining off and on since  early this morning, rather cut timber out on the grass less mess not to be.

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HI Helmut, thanks for the link I had a good look at Wikiemedia commons a lot of mucking around to upload a pic, especially someone else's pic. that pic a good pic as well, what did you go through to upload it.
Great to hear from you in Germany, I have German background from mother and father.
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" Thanks Si I found another pic of Indian Pacific ready to depart of a sister loco, only showing a couple of cars and East Perth terminal building in the back ground, this pic doesn't have copy right."


Hi Tony


I'm not sure what the 'Thanks Si.' is for; it's the first I have seen of this.


" the last pic I posted is my favourite pic, a pity it has copy right didn't notice till it was too late "


Copyright is somewhat of a 'grey area'; but Posting photos that have a CLEAR notice of photographer & copyright ISN'T !


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Hi Si, I thought you took the pic off, when the pic is a thumbnail size you can't see the copyright, I had a look at the pic in my folder, I like that pic because I have the module of the same  loco is the only copy right pic I have saved.

A question what about Google Earth can you post those pics, there is a pic I want to post showing what I plan to model changing station scenes on the first station module changing Sydney Central to East Perth Station.
I modified the first station module today so is ready to go one day next week setting up all the front modules.

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John ( JG ) seems to have taken the copyright photo out, not me.


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That is not so my favourite pic any more deleted it no more copy right pics in my folders, I have to right click the pic to enlarge it, first mistake didn't enlarge it before posting the pic.

I found another pic of my loco IP NR28 shunting the auto car carriers East Perth terminal
to save room in picture folders all my pics are thumb nail size.
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Found a good areal pic looking at the front view of Sydney Central building, to the bottom left  of the pic is what I was working on today modifying the module so I can lift off the building platform to change to anther scene East Perth. I wont be modifying the front of the module  till when I start building the last three  station modules towards the end of the year there will b a 3inch walk way so I will have to move back the front side frame back about 100mm, there will as in the pic brick arch wall  later, lots to do to keep busy.
I made the ply cover so I can lift it out with ease, there be double track on the top end of the ply.

Next pic will show the modifying of the module,
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I like to think a head when  building the module be less work and once track and bus wiring is done be hard to modify the module, I have  to shift the black piece of ply in more 3 inches, I forgot there is a walk way and some shops in under the first level, leave that to after I build the other module beside this one, I know a modeller that built an N scale model of Sydney central took him about 4 years to complete.
The next two pics will show the two walk ways the one in the front and the side one, which are the pics I took when I visited SC early October last year, hopping to go back for another visit to take more pics, the pics I missed, ran out of time.


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Here is the pic I took  of the walk way road level Sydney Central late last year with the brick arches, I won't be going that far with the fancy brick work, will just cut the arches out of 6mm ply and mark the bricks be the quicker way to go.


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This is the other pic showing the path way in under the first floor of Sydney Central at the end is escalators, ground level to the first floor  is quite high about 4 inches in HO scale, escalators are quite steep
I will have to shift the black ply in three to four  inches
More pics tomorrow.

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Another angle pic of the access walk way between the mainline track and building, in the next pic will show what walk way be modelled on when finished.
You can see the top lift out piece of ply that covers the walk way easy to lift out y unscrewing the screws.
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In this pic will look like when finished I will cut the arch as well an model beyond the entrance, still will look good, can work on the module once the layout is up and running.

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Here is a pic of the escalators, this one isn't too bad not so steep, but the next pic you will see, no way I was  going to tackle walking down those steps, was bad enough going down the escalators.
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A friend was telling me a few people have come to grief   on these stairs, be a challenge to model the steps and escalators too. I took quite a few pics that afternoon a bugger my digital SLR camera's battery was dead, used my iPhone 6s to take the pics I thing the SLR camera is on the way out with the mobile phone improving in every new model.

Tony from down under, enjoy

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Here is the final pic of this series of Camdale layout statin module complex showing how I am bolting the first station module to the front spiral approach corner module, the wing nuts make it easy.
On the other side of the corner module will be a road with the bus terminal go back to the88th post you will see the buses, more money buying HO scale buses never ends, of course with East Perth scene the road wont be there.
No work on the layout this week, form tomorrow on it is going to be dam hot, was planning Thursday that is out 38 degrees Friday the same and Saturday will hit 40 degrees + I be at my train club, Sunday out fingers crossed Monday is cooler  big day be setting up all the front modules, including the car port.
There will be another six inch ply strip with three tracks in front of the three  modules, finishing the first set of station modules stage one.

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It looks like I will have to go back to the draw bar between the two powered tenders of my famous Flying Scot, I think it is the stiff wires powering the second tender the kadee's kept on uncoupling.
I made a mistake and bough 8 of those cheap coachers from your model railway layout magazine, only coast me $8 a coach can't really complain, I will body mount the kadees.they keep on derailing mainly on points the wheels are plastic not a bad coach need a bit of TLC, any hints there.
Here is a pic of my Flying Scot 4472 , both motors are matching motors once I put the draw bar back on will solder the wires where the heat shrink is not soldered yet.

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Here is a pic of Hornby Flying Scot duel tender powered with the water tender covering the second motor.

Took some time to get the two tenders to work with some help, I am looking at building my own Garratt loco too expensive to buy  RTR a matter of buying for a good price two cheap 4-8-4 steamies

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I made the most of it today as I said I set up all the front station modules and both approach module ends to the spiral. Forgot the  concrete pergola wasn't square when I first set up the front modules 30mm out so I when I straightened p the front modules I had check the  levels on each module which e=was  out and had to cut the legs thank god I gave got the Ryobi 18volt electric saw no lead made it easier to cut the legs.
Didn't have time to set up all the spiral have to wait till next time but now I can start painting the station modules 6 to paint, nail the track down and that bus wiring.
The 7th front module I still have to do some work in working out  how I will cut the module side frames starts at 1 and 1//2 inches high to 4 inches and a car port post is in the way as well.
Here is pic one of todays effort, won't get back to the layout till Thursday now.
Bugger I can't post more than one pic at the moment, has anyone heard of imgur you have a choice of uploading pics to URL , thinking of joining them as they are free to join .

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Just post the next pic(s) without text in more posts.

If your wheels are coming off in the points, have you checked the BTB?
14.4mm BTB is a good starting point for toy market wheels through Peco points if you don't possess a standards gauge.
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Hi Bob the first pic I to explain what I am doing and the next pics  just a couple of lines.
The problem is more than the wheels, the bogies are the issue too not enough swing and the couplers catch as well so on those hot days I will work on each coach could go as far are replacing the bogies all together with good Bachmann bogies as the coach is a cheaper vision of the  Bachman British coach.
Did have  time to set up all of the spiral comes around on the pathway to the garden shed  and on the other side of the pergola post to a six foot radius curve S bend.

The main spiral has a 7ft radius double track curve on a 2percent grade HO scale locos will handle the grade with no problem.
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Next pic is what I use to solder the track down on the module joins those b PVC computer circuit board cut in quarter inch strips works well. Iam not actually down on my knees nailing track  down cutting the modules joins, do that on saw stools with an extra height extension to get it up to the right height where I am not bending down too much same with the wiring as well.
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Is this thr right way to wire up a 3pole 4 position rotary switch, switching three throttles and fourth position  centre off and later DCC.

The bottom of the switch has 12 pins the first 4 are used fro LED indicators, this the plan pin5 to pin 12, second pin6 to pin 11 third pin7 to pin10  centre off or DCC pin8 to pin 9.

The pic I have found isn't the same but pretty close difference is the pic has four poles do away with pole C and, pole A is used for the common pin on LEDS  and other two to the track, I will have to experiment or someone can help me out be great.
The track plan stage one has 10 blocks, am thinking of  one big panel b too many wires  design the panel   so it can grow with the layout, point motor switches be on a different panel., a new project on the way.

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I find it a bit hard to give any advice based on your description.

First off do you have a basic outline of your proposed layout?
Also how many people do you realistically expect to be running trains at any one time?

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Hi Bob I did a drawing of 12 pins of the rotary switch, didn't get a chance to make a start on the control panel will tomorrow, went to Jar-car to buy those terminal strips and LED holders to make the front of the panel neat.

Also bought a new gate latch bloody cost $71 but when I got home from Bunning I found that there was a missing part the gate latch for the other gate, my spotted that the package was retaped up, took it back great they gave me my money back.
How are you going with your station building repair??
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Forgot to answer your question, I will be running two trains at once should be easier with rotary switching, layout is 53ft long by 30ft wide stage one ten blocks added on with another five later, the control panel  be plug and play all block wiring numbered.
The other throttle be a local throttle for shunting in the station all throttles have their own trannie, I like to have a DPDT  as a direction switch as well.
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Looks like a recipe for a nightmare as the layout expands changes. Step back and take a deep breath. Can you draw me a block diagram of your proposed layout. e.g.

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Morning Bob, no worries I will work on a track block plan  as soon as I can, working on the control panel today drilling the holes for the rotary switches and LED holders.Yeah that is the trouble with DC to run more than one train all the wiring switches and so on, correct a nightmare but worth the effort, DCC is the answer cuts out half of the wiring.one day will switch to DCC.
It is a nice morning here low 30's, I am going to be buys for sometime:P
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My suggestion for a dc layout would be to consign that rotary switch to the spare parts bin until a better use can be found for it and buy yourself some DPDTCO switches and some SPST switches for isolating tracks in loco storage sidings.
This will allow a consistent and expandable method of layout wiring.

Most home layouts and a few club layouts I have wired have rarely required more than keys up/down for two road throttles and remote local /switch for any dedicated yard throttles.

DCC can be added as an option on either the keys up or down feed using a DPDT switch. The power should be pulled on all dc throttles before plugging in the DCC power supply to prevent an expensive ooopppss!!

Over the years I have found that the big and bulky switches such as Jaycar ST0576 and ST0570 to be cheaper and more reliable than the miniature switches. The screws are removed and connections soldered to the ST7056 tags.

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Guess what I got the rotary switch to work only wired in two throttles and used a 12volt test light and bingo on a high but my friend was wrong on how he said to wire up the other two poles to the track,(light). Go back 5 posts on the drawing the poles ABC. I had to solder the Blue wire to A as well as the LED using A,B  in the red wire pole for the track, tomorrow I will start on the control panel and have it ready to take it to AMRA as one of the members is  an Energex linesman  he has done a lot of the wiring on AMRA's layout, show him to make sure it is wired up right.
Do you still want to see a block drawing of my layout, mowing the yard soon, gee mowing every week now I don't like to see the coach grass to grow to high, I don't the yard low  at all burns the grass and weeds take over, haven't got a weed in the yard now end of Feb going to top drew the yard.
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Hi Bob C: I am going to take your advice and put those rotary switches to the spare parts bin, I have heaps of DPDT switches, I know how to wire DC duel cab control but how do you wire more DPDT switches to ad more throttles, I want two more for Local running in the station, siding and loco service facility and later staging yard and also LED indicators to high light each throttle in use.
The outside pins of the DPDT is for the cabs and centre pins is for the track, whew does the next DPDT get wired in.
I will draw up the layout showing the bocks tonight , 1be 16 in stage one.
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H all, my control project is at a stand sill, had problems with wiring the rotary switch, the bare wires on the LED's touched, I think I shorted out a resistor and  upset the trannie as well, will check the trannie tonight and unscrew the LED's, made up a temporary rotary switch with the four LEDS, not a good idea, to play safe will have to build the control and mount the rotary switches permanently where the bare LED wires wont  bump the other wire. 
I will have to have a dual cab DC set up using DPDT switches I find out how to wire the rotary switch in the spare parts draw for the time being.
When I buy a loco like to find the real loco, I now have two Indian Pacific NR class locos the first IP NR loco I bought is NR28 named Port Augusta and found anew pic at  taken at a different angle second NR is IP NR18 she had a new yellow colour scheme with a new IP loo very stunning indeed. Have the coaches as well 18 of them , over 15 feet long, modelled on IP that runs off peak time, peak time GSR run 28 passenger cars and when arriving at Sydney Central has to be split up on two platforms I can't wait to do that, not to next year.
Here is a pic of my newest NR IP loco NR 18 is on my desk top pic as well pure awesome.

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Here is my other IP NR28 sadly I can't double head with NR18 different gearing, NR28 is a slower loco , I double head NR28 with another Pacific National NR62 and NR18 I double head NR84 which had has a Southern Spirit colour scheme has the same gearing as NR18.

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Tony, the way I have wired most of the last layouts I have done is to  have one DPDT switch for two throttles. These are normally used for the main lines or one can be used to operate over the whole layout if you are on your own. These two throttles are portable on a big layout.  The switches are installed such that they are thrown up and down not sideways. This is called 'keys up/keys down' operation and the throttles associated are the keys up or down throttles. At each yard where shunting is going to be done a local throttle can be installed. This throttle is fixed, usually on a long cord so the operator can throw the points, uncouple etc while still having the controller in hand. On a tiny yard where everything can be reached while sitting it could be just a panel mounted controller. The yard/station areas are usually arranged so that all shunting can be done independently of the main lines. At each of these locations there is another DPDT switch. It is labelled 'local/ remote". By throwing it to local, the keys up/down switch is disconnected from the yard feed and the local throttle is connected. This wiring method allows for two players to be running trains on the main lines and another player to be shunting at each yard. By using DPDTCO (centre off) switches those switches can be used as section isolating switches when required. I also only use one set of contacts of the DPDTCO switches as I wire layouts up for common return. The other contacts can be used for something else later if required. Each controller must have a separate transformer powering it for common return wiring. In conjunction with this method we often did away with lots of remote point switching. The points at each yard/station were operated by hand.... cheaper/more reliable/ and much more intuitive. On some layouts the points on the main line(s) were operated remotely at a panel for convenience. Here is a pic showing the basic idea.  To use DCC instead of dc on a layout I usually connect the DCC controller to either the keys up or down feed.  This is just another DPDT switch in (say) the feed coming directly out of the keys up controller before it gets to any other switch. It is labelled 'keys up/ DCC'.   Then throw all keys up and you have a DCC layout . The DCC power is only turned on after disconnecting all the dc controllers from power. cheers  BobC

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Here is a pic showing the installation option of DCC power on the layout.

I have not mentioned layouts such as ones with a branch line as well as the double track main line and those with more than two main lines.
 
The branch line was wired up in the manner of a yard/station with its own local controller.

I have not wired up a layout with more than two main lines using this method. If I ever have to I will give it some thought. Once you get past a certain complexity DCC is the sensible option. I have no wish to indulge in progressive cab control again. :>;)

A big advantage of this method over the banks of rotary switches is the ease of fault finding for the less technically inclined.
There was also a lot less of the "who's got my train?" as someone switched a rotary section switch to controller 5 instead of 6 etc. :>;)

Look forward to seeing your block diagram.
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Hi Bob, many thanks for the drawing of the DPDT switches, so if I want another local throttle just continue on with a third DPDT, now the question what about add LED indicators where do they get wire in, like to high light each block that s in use.
Have t agree with what you say about tracing wire problems, they say keep I simple  and rotary switches be a pain as I have found out, stuffed up my old CDA trannie going to ask my brother-in-law to make me up another trannie may be 3amp this time, he is a electrical fitter for QR, he made up a 6amp trannie for me.
Will need 45 DPDT switches for the main bus wire panel, must ask you what is a DPDTCO switch never heard of them, could it have 8 pins.
I have taken a pic of my track plan post it on your next post.
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Hi Bob, thanks again have to study the wiring drawing, wont need that for a while, talk about DCC I am looking into Hornby DCC as they a computer interface in one of their models probably have to pay a bit more but a bloke choose Hornby to Lenz was raving.
If I spend a bit more my son will be able to drive a train from his computer all goes well, now to con my wife:P.
Here is a pic of my track plan, the first main panel will have 15 blocks can add on as I build more modules, haven't even added in the loco service facility will have a turn table to turn 3801 around mine doesn't have a front coupler Lima brand nice detail is ok the loco facility will have it's own power supply or local DPDT switch what do you think.

We are copping hot weather here in the high 30's can't do much out side, the next week much the same, layout at a stand still, will have to work on the station building plans but can paint the modules in the morning and late afternoon.
I won't be actually having much siding at all only one, have to have a reverse loop to turn the IP around, not much scenery other that the station building and double deck bridge corner modules.

Hope you can work out the where the blocks are all up for the whole mainline and station complex when finished 30 blocks, a lot of DPDT switches., enjoy .
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The CO refers to centre off as outlined. The Jaycar part number ST0576 I gave are DPDTCO switches.
 If you toggle the switch and it has 3 positions (left, middle and right) then it is centre off.

Forget the LEDs for the moment.

I have draw what I think is a block diagram of your layout plan as it stands.
A station area and a single track mainline loop with a reversing loop inserted into it.

Do I have that bit right so far?

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Hi Bob, I will go to Jar-Car and have a look at them, I have so many DPDT switches got a draw full, a few years back I came across a bargain on EBay but have to watch the heat when soldering the plastic will melt, should of paid a bit more for my soldering iron got a Weller that can control the heat, you can adjust them in the soldering stick, I use a wet sponge to cool the tip down with a wet sponge cleans the tip at the same time.
You are spot on with the reverse loop, I am hopping to do away with another DPDT switch which changes the polarity, the loop is over 35feet in length can stretch it longer , become another block just need the up and down DPDT, that's the plan.
I managed to do a bit of work on the station module today replaces the two inch screws with two one inch countersunk bolts, used those T bolts worked out well ready to paint three modules starting tomorrow morning before it gets too hot.
Will have to get stuck into the new control panel petty soon will need it when I complete from the right back corner module darting around to the spiral up to the station modules onto the car port end to left back corner module be an exciting day when the first test train runs.
I be able to add on the LED block on the panel indicators later then.
How are you going with your station building repair.
Be taking a couple of pics of my two Austrains NR28 and NR18 tomorrow, got 7of those locos.

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Those cheap switches can easily be damaged, one of the reasons I recommend the big ones. I suggest they be used as isolating switches rather than throw them initially if they still work. Easy to replace when they play up and easy to fault find when they are only responsible for turning the power on/off on a short length of track.

If you insist on a reverse loop then it will need to be fed with some means of reversing the polarity. It can be automated but again I suggest a DPDT switch to start.

What you currently have is a plan that may be used for running two trains depending on the station arrangement. One running on the main and one shunting in the yard.

My station is on hold until get the corrugate.

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Hi Bob, thanks I will have to put in an extra DPDT switch to switch the p0larity wont be happening straight away aiming to go up the first circuit up and running with passing loop.
The double track on the front of the layout will be split as well so I can hold a train in the station and a second one come up from behind, dream is having four friends running trains on the main line, or shunting in the station.
Have you heard of gray board or mount board I am looking at using if we can get it over here for my station building.
Took a pic of my control panel from the last layout, yellow and silver switches are the DTDP switches for the blocks and blue switches are for the points, I even had two sets of working signals on each point that was further away from the panel, signals were on a signal bridge and I could take it off to pack the modules away. Dam hot here  38 degrees in the sun 34 degrees in under the pergola.
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I finely took a pic of my Austrains Indian Pacific NR18 same as the real loco, I have 18 Indian Pacific Lima passenger cars one day will have an extra 10.
Will have to wait now to next year what I start working on stage two of the station complex so I can have fun driving the IP into platform one Sydney Central or two and three if the train is any longer.

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Here is a pic of my first Indian Pacific loco from ,Australians NR28 Port Augusta sadly NR28 has a new colour scheme and no name board.
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Tony ,there is some confusion in the names of things. I will assume it is paper covered thin foam board you are referring too. You might try office works.
Art mounting board is thick cardboard and that has been another choice of material for some... know any picture framers?
In HO I normally built in styrene. However I have built a few structures out of thin and thick cardboard as found in newsagents.
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Hi Bob, yes that is correct the board is used for picture framing backing, there is an art shop in Ipswich across the road from a hobby shop go to , will check them out when I go up to buy more track, be enough track to build the first circuit and pushing it passing loops.
I have used the 1mm thick cardboard to build a 737 fuselage for a train load planning to build more fuselages about 6 of them, something different and have tried to build those wind turbine blades as well out of the same stuff, I need something that will bend while travelling around on a curve, that cardboard is too rigid
Need the stuff that will cut ok with a knife and be rigid, my Sydney Central station building has about 5 levels from ground level, will have to build the building in three sections.
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Just joined imgur so I can post more than one pic , but had to set up a second  pager so I canswitch between both, fingers crossed it will work, so here we go
WOW I am back in business a lot of mucking around, will take a pic of the screen tomorrow, this is how I did with the help of my son and wife. Had to open two screens at the top imgur one side and Free rails the other just a matter of flicking between each other, it will be a learning process, long time coming
Haven't worked out how to type between the pics as yet but it will come, bottom pic is how I bolt the first station module to the spiral corner model with the four legs on the module just a matter of sliding the module in and put the bolts and tighten up the wing nuts.
Second pic is the module in place, top pic shows the module join, has turned out well ready for painting the station modules then lay the track and bus wiring never ending, I hope the second pic isn't too big I did resize them down to 103KB.
Quite happy on a big high, had to join imgur for it to happen but worth it.
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It wasn't to bad a day yesterday so I made the most of it and improved  the spiral by making it a foot longer and replacing a straight section with a 12ft quarter curve  section on the back of the spiral close to the shed.





The first pic shows the new 6ft quarter radius S bend , got scenery plans  there .





The last two pics are of different angles of the spiral , the spiral of the 7ft curve seams to look steeper, but it isn't, I have made a special jig that keeps the level, level and drops down quarter in a foot so every 42inch drops down inch and a quarter, made a 6foot jig needed the piece of ply for a module side will have to make another one, pics to follow.
How easy is this posting more than one pic per post, once you know how, the main problem is windows 10 edge, I can't access the gallery at all and a few more buttons, , discovered imgar which you need to turn the pics into a link, bingo. 
On a high back in business, back on the pics next job is I will have to permanently cut the legs to size and improve them when folding them back. 
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Looks to be coming along well.
How quickly will you be able to get the exposed sections under cover when it rains?
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Hi Bob, thanks yeah sure is, today would of being a good day working on the layout as well a degree hotter, hasn't peaked as yet predicted to go to 32 degrees, not much happening outside going to make a start on the control panel.
I bought some 12volt bulbs and holders today while I was at Jar-car, I want to use the light bulb for short  pretention on the track, be joining  two throttles on one trannie,, both trannies are 6amp, remote is 3amp and the panel throttle is two amp.
I plan to make covers for the outside sections from that plastic board they use for posters on election campaign, should be able to shift the section pretty quick but will be keeping an eye on the weather forecast, if a storm is on its way will pack the layout up wont be doing much running on hot days.
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Here is a link to a Lima servicing guide.
Might prove useful if you have some growlers.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/s90kqr24stcf75t/lima%20service.pdf?dl=0

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Morning Bob, thanks for that link on maintenance on the Lima pancake motor I have saved it and will come in handy when I clean the four motors, on those cold winter days better make the most of the nice days, I have problems with those cold westerly winds.
Keep an eye on my post as I be posting more pics today of finely extending the track into the first station module from the spiral corner module, today I be soldering the feeder wires ion the piece of 6 inch track module join and station module, coming along .
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Robert Comerford wrote: Here is a link to a Lima servicing guide.
Might prove useful if you have some growlers.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/s90kqr24stcf75t/lima%20service.pdf?dl=0

cheers BobC
I still have one or two 1980s HO locos, thanks!

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I have finely got track across from the spiral corner module to the first station module, not bad effort yesterday afternoon, now the job in soldering the feeder wires to the six inch piece of track before the module join and continuing on with the bus wiring.

As soon as I finish nailing the track down on the other two station modules and the bus wiring I will have to make a start on the new control panel, there be four throttles controlled by a three pole 4 way rotary switch and each position   will have  a colour LED light up that  throttle.


 



Looking at this pic have levelled the two modules so I am not bending down on my knees nailing the track down or doing the wiring, I can clamp the module on its side to staple the bus wires in under the module and push the feeder wires through the hole drilled beside the track.

I actually make up the bus wires as a harness like the car wiring and solder the feeder wires on top of the module no sore back the beauty of a module layout, can also trace a fault in the bus wiring as well, I now have one of those  multi metres got to learn how to use it.



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The last pic shows how I how the track down on the module join using those plastic coated computer circuit boards cut in strips works out well, I use a screw in case I have to adjust the track on the module join.

Can't run a test loco till I finish the three station modules the approach modules at the other end  and spiral a little way off yet. The  two tracks are going to the temporary main line till I add on the extension to the front  of the station modules will have three tracks on that extension .

I am happy not I can post more than one pic per post , once I get further ahead on the station modules I will upload them into my gallery.

Enjoy the pics, Tony from down under.

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I have modified  the spiral corner module only the track to join up with the new  modified suburban station and passing loop extension in front of the  main station modules have widened the front strip so I can add in an excess ramp.



The first pic where the block of gray wood is the start of the island platform the platform be about 5 inches wide enough for  wide steps down to the access tunnel linking the station building .



Second pic shows the passing loop, going to a bit of work on the module join which be cut on a slight angle,


I could add in another single track platform as well, only the first Suburban station extension only needs to be 12 inches wide the other two 9inches wide.

Now I have to resolder the feeder wires to the new track another day, love mock-up modules jives you an idea how the track will go to the plan on when the right 7ft length is cut.
The new track work looks pretty close to the track work at East Perth terminus station where the Indian Pacific ends here journey and heads back to Sydney via Adelaide.

Here is the pic again o Sydney  Central station, the ramp in question is on the left and bottom side of the pic 

Tony from down under

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My last running day at my train club didn't renew my membership, I took a video of my famous Dual powered tender drive Flying Scot 4472,. She only had trouble half way through the video where she moved backwards on the passing loop with the other train passing through, took a couple of stations before all the coaches bogies were back on the track.

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Looking at this pic you will have to put some plus to see the new solid draw bar which made a big difference especially when going around the spiral had trouble in the past with wheel slip she passed in flying colours even stoping on a grade and moving off with out any wheel spin.
Next video be of my own layout, aiming for end of June being the big day, by then I hope to have those last three maroon coaches  with better bogies you ill see in the video.

They are from that your model railway mag, I bought 6 of them can't complain $8AU doesn't pay to buy cheap coaches.
Enjoy the pics and video, Tony from down under.


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Hi Tony :wave:


I like the double-tender L.N.E.R Scotsman ! :bg:


I quite fancy the L.N.E.R Mallard. :cool:


Might look a bit weird in an American downtown switching yard though ! :shocked:


Boards are lookin' good.


John tells me it's HOT downunder ! and his car air-con BUST !! :f:


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Evening Si :rah:, many thanks that dual tender Flying Scott took ages to find, I decided to cheat and power the water tender as well, she sure has some grunt now both motors are matching 5 pole motors.

Yeah be awesome to have a dual tender Mallard, very hard to find onw but II think Hornby did one in 00 scale live steam, I got on the loco wish list a Dapol A4 steamy blue that has  steam looked good on video.

4472 with the dual tenders did do a tour in the mid 70's of the US and was nearly lost over there, I will have to dig out a Union Pacific DVD on the FS in a yard in Chicago.
Yes yesterday was a hot one 39 degrees in the sun and 35 in under the pergola, still can have s few hot days in May.:shocked:

The track laying is coming along nicely, cooler today raining at the moment get some more track laying after brekkie the rain should be gone by then .

Here is a couple more pics of my next favourite train Mehano Thaly's TGV missing the bar car which I hope to by buying soon from a  friend in Germany.





I am glad I have sorted out posting more than one pic per post now.
Is it still cold your end of the world.
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It's a bit of a drive from Ipswich over to AMRA Tony.It would be handy if you could get a club going over your side of the city again or you might be able to get a few locals to come and run with you.
I've kept my membership so I can make use of the various AMRA clubrooms when I get to travel again.
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Hi Tony :wave:


Yeah ... DOUBLE MOTORS !! ... :cool:


I guess if it was one of the locos with the motor in the boiler as well...


...it could be like an F-Unit A-B-B car set ! ;)


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Pleased to hear you have your new Windows-10 sorted out Tony.


As for the pictures.

It is always good to remember that not all of us have LIGHTNING FAST internet.

When Pages go say beyond 10 Photos on a Page, the loading times for some people just go through the roof !

Bearing in mind that most photo-host picture-serving is actually way way SLOWER than the Freerails server, Page loading times can just be crazy.


I have to say that VERY OFTEN when I encounter Pages like that, I terminate the Page before it finishes loading.

I know mostly who Posts Pages like this, but sadly it does mean that I do not follow their Threads as closely as I would like, due to insanely long loading times & phone data usage.


The alternative is to simply put a SENSIBLE number of photos on 1 Page.

After all, when we look at a normal book...

...how many photos does it have on 1 page ... 5 or 6 TOPS usually.

Then you turn to the next Page.

Freerails is no different to an electronic book & starting new Pages is easy, cheap, free & FAST !


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Evening Bob, yeah sure is 90k's both ways took an hour to get there, can agree is what I love to do is start up a new HO scale club in Ipswich, there is a N scale group used to be part of the old HO club died

A lot of effort to start up a club, as you say I couldn't do it on my own, my wife says no but if I can get some other support may be different, I am going to put on a display in a couple of library's in Ipswich

Wasn't as hot today 27 degrees got humid in the afternoon, I made the most of it laying down track on the second station module, and onto the  last station module soldered the track down and cut the track join on the module.

You copping some wild weather in NSW it is heading our way hitting us tomorrow but we had some heavy rain this morning.

Three hour dentist appointment tomorrow morning up early preparing for a crown on one of my molars.

Finish off the track laying Wednesday and starting the bus wiring, some of the bus wires don't need feeder wires, how do you strip the bus wire to solder on the feeder wires, is there a special wire cutter strippers????.
Tony

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Tony, I often use a T-rex type stripper (mines an old one from Jaycar)to allow soldering of the feeder wires to the bus. You just need to be careful when using them that they don't cut the bus wire.
Other options can be slicing one side of the insulation with a hobby knife, wrapping the wire around and soldering. By applying the solder and iron on the exposed side a reliable join can be made.
A pair of side cutters can also be used to pull back the insulation, but it takes practice.

Others use suitcase connectors but I am not a fan of them as both wires need to be the exact size required for a reliable joint.
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Morning Si, that be over kill, the A/4's with the motors in the boiler have some grunt and pull 11 coaches with ease with a price tag $200 +, took some time to get the two powered tenders working, now I can run the tenders with out the front loco.

We have had good broad band speeds for years, did start off dialup and yes was a pain, even 4G on the mobile phone is faster, than the old dial up, we have NBN her fibre to the house to the house, 100mb's a second, I thought you have faster that us with board band .

Yeah it took some time but what I had to do was change pic to URL link, it is like putting a you tube file on the forum .



The most pics I put on a post is 4 yeah agree what you are saying about the forum being like a book, I love the forum can get so much info and help and everyone is friendly .
Here is the pic again you can see the wires I piggy baked from he first tender motor, painted them black to look like air hoses, worked out well no one at the old train club could pick the wires, they never see this loco again, As far as I know I am the only one in QLD  that has done this, do you know anyone that has done so in the UK.
I reckon the forum is a bit like face book.
We are going to be copping wild weather the whole week , BOB has just gone through it .

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Hi Bob, wiring can be very time consuming especially the way I strip the wires  stripping the middle of a wire till now if only I can con my wife into buying it, Bunning sell it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHJR72oDGE8  .
AS you say you have to be carefully when stripping the wire , I sometime cut a strand, with this  tool no problems and so fast, I use a knife to cut the wire and peal the outer cover back and cut , takes time. will sure speed up the process of adding feeder wires to the bus wire, I make the bus wire up like a car harness wires, pics to follow .
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Tony, that version does work as it should. The reason I did not recommend one of that type of stripper is due to the wide variance in quality of those tools. Before buying I would advise a demo first.
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Evening Bob C, I had a look at the Irwin wire stripper, very nice indeed yes going to buy one tomorrow, the bloke at Bunning said I can try before buying, the main reason is splicing the wires to solder in the feeder wire will  speed  up how long it takes to solder them in, very nice feel as well..
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Hi Bob, I ended up buying those wire strippers after having a demo first well worth the money spent, will speed up when splicing the bus wires to solder  in the feeder wires.

What  I found you have to hold the first strip with your thumb nail or actually twist the feeder that will stop the  outer plastic stuff moving what I found, it is very quick a matter of getting the right technique.

The strippers replaces a the old wire stripper and knife also has a crimper as well, get rid of the big thing my brother in law gave me don't know how to use it anyway.
Brand is Irwin.

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Here is the new way I mark large radius curves with my beam compass, have tried using a tape measure, all I need is to  make an adjustable beam , have in the past marked out 6foot radius curves.











The last pic is the pivot end, I put it in an inch from the end of the beam, this curve decking is for the end of the lower level of the spiral four foot radius comes around onto a 6foot bridge and the back corner module after that module is the 27foot bridge.

The bridge be modelled on the Denmark to Sweden double deck cable stay bridge, I will be using 5mm dowel for the cables be 40 on mine the bridge isn't to true scale be 5metre span in HO scale and there is the approach sections on each side.

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Good, you have purchased a stripper you know works. The trammel with a pencil on the end is indeed a well known method of getting track laid to the desired diameter. I have used it many times. Outdoors we used a string line.
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Evening Bob C, yeah the wire stripper worked well, I was even stripping two wires at once, until I master the new stripper I had to use the other one to strip off a bit of wire cover on the feeder wire.

The last couple of days I have being working on the first and second block, it sure takes time when you have to cut the bus wires to go through three modules to the control panel at least there wasn't any feeder wires needed. Still a lot of work as I need to cut out a panel  one every second module for the wire plugs so the panel can slide up in under the module, having a rest the weekend, start planning the control panel I don't know if I will have a track plan on the panel, thinking of just marking what the block switch number is.
Was pretty hot here as well chased me inside the nice cool house peaked 36 degrees  and  humid as well, same the next couple of days .

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I cut out and made the mini plug panel that will connect the bus wires from the first station module, the panel slides up in under the module I did the same on the older module layout.




The top pic shows the three different bus wire plugs, the double ones are two tracks small plug one track and the blue plug 25way computer plugs, I have already made the leads from the older layout and can be used again. Yes I have colour coded plug plan, got it down to a fine art soldering the wires to the back of the computer plug .






The last two pics the inside of the panel making sure I leave enough wire for the panel to slide freely, the ast pic is the best way to hide the panel and protect the plugs, have tried hinges this is the best way. Each module will have one panel at each end need three more.

Back to wiring bus wiring tomorrow, I bought some 19mmx42mm pine to replace the timber frame on the spiral corner module has caused the module to have a bow in it, next weeks project., coming along nicely, took all day to cut out and make that panel next one be easier.

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Had a very good day with the electrical department finished the second station module, started on the first station module, will finish it tomorrow afternoon. Can them move onto the third station module, e a lot harder as that module will have the wires splicing  off to the control panel, have to count how many blocks and making the larger plug panel.



The first pic shows how I solder the feeder wires to the bus wire, you can see the heat shrink, with the heat shrink I  drill  a hole in the middle of the cut heat shrink and then slide the heat shrink after soldering the feeder wires to the bus wire and with the solder iron shrink the heat shrink, what a fantastic product no more stick tape.



The next pic is the finished bus wire , the new wire stripped makes a big difference.




The last pic is the feeder wires ready to be soldered onto the track, got the feeder wiring down to a fine art now, making sure my soldering iron doesn't get too hot.

Will only post three pics per post, takes a lot of time, enjoy the progress of my layout.


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The last lot of three pics are of underneath the module showing the bus wiring.



The first pic is of the plug panel back, with the wires through to the bus wire plugs 



The second pic is the other end of the module waiting for the next module plug panel so the bus wires be cut to size, good to have a bit more wire.


Last pic is the plug panel closed in and the finished bus wires, I pair of the bus wire and twist the together after the feeder wired are soldered to the bus wires.

With the layout being so big I like to have feeder wires on every piece of track especially the pieces of track between the points. takes longer but worth it in the end.

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Good to see it all coming along Tony
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Evening Bob, many thanks, I managed to solder the feeder wires to the bus wires for the first station module, thanks to the new wire stripper made it far easier to strip the wires managing to strip two wires at once.
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We survived cyclone Debbie and thanks to Debbie had lake Camdale  in under the pergola glad I shifted the modules and put them up high.  Was worse with the 2011 cyclone the pergola was a raging river and a water fall at the end of the concrete sadly it happened last night  the camera couldn't put up the water coming off the floor into the garden.
The water started backing back to the back door.

style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"Water was backing up yesterday not as bad as last night. style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"
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The water was flowing over the gravel pity the camera didn't pick it up I am going to have to put in a concrete drain on the other side of the car port to stop the water coming off from the neighbours yard, where the gravel is was a garden as well and 2011 was washed out .

Glad I put the modules up high as they would of got wet had an inch of water there backed back to the house,, Lake Camdale taken from form the southern end .

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I have finely finished wiring the first two station modules, set the two up on saw houses and a painters trestle so I can cut the wires to size and tint each wire to make it easy to put to wire wires into the plug, the only time having to be on my knees.
The first two pics are of the finished feeder wires and of the feeder wires soldered to the track, got the soldering down to a fine art  not taking long to  solder the feeder wires to the track .






 Two pics of the finished feeder wires and second close up pic of the feeder wires soldered to the track, the only problem I have is the soldering tip getting too hot, can't  adjust the heat so I cool the soldering tip on a sponge.
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The next two pics are of the  bus wires connected to the bus wire plug panel second module making it easy to connect the wires to the plug panel on the next module.







The last pic is both modules set up close together, wont know how quickly I can set up the whole layout hopefully end of June.

The third station module will have two bus wire plug panels second panel connecting to the control panel, starting on the third station module tomorrow.

With the new wire stripper will make light work of stripping the wires mid-stream on some of the blocks that will go through to the next module.

This morning had that nip in the air so starting to cool down 29 degrees yesterday.

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Finely cut the final piece of ply filling last  gup on the spiral and yesterday I rebuilt the frame of the corner spiral module fixing the bow at the end of the module, I cut the leg 5mm too long and will use a saw mitre box on the leg. Have repositioned the legs as well so they can fold up inside the frame of the module making it easier to store the module, the old way the legs were onto of the frame, had to have cut pieces of ply to hold the leg iin place no need now and much tidier.

When I am back on the layout  construction I will be cutting the thickness down on the leg as well to 22mm, looking good.



Once I finish the wiring on the station modules will move back to the spiral, set the level jig up and cut the new legs to the height of spiral grade, then move onto the last curve coming off the S bend on the lower spiral level connection to the back of the layout, nearly there and final track decking be the bridge..



The small piece of ply that filled the gap is after the double track on the deck on the path way and lighter colour ply decking now the job joining them up as well we have to show how I did it only needing two screws and track lining up every time on the join.




I rather have the legs higher than too low, you can see the different in the last pic 55mm's to cut off the legs, going to use a mitre box and hand saw be too hard with the electric saw.
Once that is done I have to put back the bracket that bolts the first station module use a clamp to hold the bracket too easy , magic stuff.

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The latest update on modifying the spiral front corner module is coming along nicely, thanks to Si us windows 10 edge can now access our gallery with out the need of G for gallery square works a bit to set up but once you are post the first few pics the rest be easy .






I found out that you put info between each pic or they will for some reason join up


Pic 1 and 1 A is what I am modelling on the corner module, modelling the arches on the bridge , the width of the road with the three arches plus the walk way tunnels both sides of the road works out to be 20 inches long

The bridge above the bus is the tram bride, if you go to Google Earth and type in Sydney Central station you will what I am modelling .

In pic 1 I will be moving the module leg down another 6 inches out the way as there be a bus wiring  plug panel for the bus wire  plus, module has being cut back a foot  as well.

The off to the front of the module is the suburban track and the new front extension will join up making it easier to cut the track on the module join.


Pic 2 the front module you see in the next pi what I am modelling there, it is going to pure awesome when finished , not sure if I will model the park across from Sydney Central station

I think cutting back the front corner module looks heaps better can have too much modules comments welcome






Final pic for this post part 1 is the bus lane which I be modelling too, at least I will have some scenery on the front station modules and need to buy more buses car and people a lot of them.
If anyone wants to know how I did it , I will go through on another on the next post but you do need to the have a second tab for it to work and second tab being  your gallery.
Tony from down under is on a high thanks to Si awesome love this forum .

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Part two of the spiral corner module rebuild coming along nicely still lots of work ahead here especially in the scenery side with a road added to  between  the two modules.






These two modules will have later down the track two station scenes as I am modelling the (GSR) Great Southern Railway the owners of the Indian Pacific, Ghan and Overlander,

Be a lot of fun once the IP leaves Sydney I will pull up out of the way, actually be changed to different station scenes on the way to Perth, takes three days very fast clock one day.




East Pert station building yet another large building to construct, my version be slightly different but pretty close.




With this pic and the extension piece will become Sydney Central station, the  next pic is are repeat pic showing what this scene be modelled on can be modelled later once the layout is up and running.








Going back to the third post I will changing the 3/4 pine sides to 100mm 12mm ply sides so I can bolt the road to under both modules, as in the pic above, it looks like another bus lane on the other side of the rad as well. Visiting Sydney again will sort that out where I be taking lots more pics spending more time there, can't wait, be the end of winter.

For got to add looking at this pics bottom left hand side  is what I am modelling , extending the suburban track base  out wider so I can add in the access road between the walkway and track.

Enjoy the latest pics of my layout slowly getting closer to be completed being a long road but be worth the effort.


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I had a really good Saturday working in the carpenters layout department, mostly did all the cutting up of ply I cut the last 4ft half radius curve on the  spiral low level and a 6ftX100mm high side for the spiral corner module.

Next I cut the first section to the cable stay double deck bridge, track deck and sides, yet to mark out the sides and cut them out ready the make can cut out the frame and after afternoon tea I screwed on the new sides to the spiral corner module.

The pic will blow every one away, I put a HO scale bus the only one I have to see how the height wise went WOW the  arches will set this scene off nicely, but where the is actually where the is the be a pedestrian tunnel, go back to page 16 last post will see what I aim going to model.

I might set the two modules up tomorrow to see how they join up, forgot I also replaced the piece of ply I joined up on the lift out section  on the first station with a full piece of ply.

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There's a certain satisfaction in turning large wooden items into lots of smaller ones Tony.
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Thanks Bob, going to look a lot better than having a straight module join there, going to take a while to finish, I will go so far and go back to it once the layout is up and running.


A new project is looming, I rang Hobbyrama earlier on not knowing a lot on ship measurements I wanted to know what the death of the ship meant he said the full height, this ship will fit the scene nicely .

The height 15.30mx 196m in length in HO scale works out 7ft 6inching long by 175mm high , the clearance height on my bridge is 12 inches going to Bunning on Wednesday to have a look at what timber they have that will fit the tower measurements 3inches at the base by 1and1/2 inches, wide.


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Perfect afternoon here cool morning 19 degrees in the house had to get the track suit out .

Tony.

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Yet another great Saturday working in the outdoors railway I marked out and cut the arches for the first pedestrian walkway arch and first 3lane road arch ,turned out ok for a first time effort be good when painted and the road base added later. Can't close in both the to roofs of the arches till I do the bus wiring, signal and point motor wiring   will plug up under the road  deck.

First pic is the full scale drawing of the arches, a lot harder than I thought, the rail bridge is on an angle not straight and the road is straight.











Once I finish the two rail bridges I will have to buy more buses  carsand just the prime movers on eBay, was looking on Aussie eBay this morning at double deck buses prices not bad will b a few of them and normal buses as well , hopping to buy a lot of cars be cheaper that way, same with the people  seen 500 to a thousand in one bag on eBay.
Will finish the two arches off tomorrow and the second rail bridge and there's the new fold up legs as well to measure and cut screw the hinges back on and ready for painting then  can  relay the track and do the bus wiring completing the spiral corner module .
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At long last I have completed the rebuilding of the spiral corner module ready to b painted, need to a bit of filling in with plaster and finishing off the two bus wire panels on the mainline bridge.




The second pic showing the bus wiring plug took some effort to work out, the next road arch on the  suburban extension will over the plugs and wiring, I can't do the roof of both arches till the bus wiring is done.




Last pic looking down on the corner module , to the left of the pic, the top module is the part of the new mainline bridge, the piece of ply I will replace with angle line so the bus plugs can fit in better.

The bottom module the new lift out piece with the extended main line bridge joins up to the top module.

Latter on I will cut a piece of ply that be part of the station module and road scene  of the corner module planning to having working intersection lights and lots of cars, very hard to get actual 87 scale cars in a big bundle  they are 1/100 scale and saying be used for 87 scale???

Nearly there but lots of work still ahead, be working on the two modules next weekend.
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Have finely finished the front corner module and the first station module joined them up today ready to start nailing the track down on both modules, the beauty of building a module layout, taking longer to build.

This is how do all the track laying and bus wiring, the only time I be on my knees is when I bolt the station modules and plug the wires up, will wear knee pads.

Looks a lot better now the way I have joined the corner module to the station module  together with bridges , cuts out too much ply top on the joinThe darker  piece of ply with the 18inch bridge added cut in one piece module be too hard to store, undo a few screws and unplug the wires the piece lifts out with ease.

I have decided to shift the spiral to the car port end so I can gain 6 inches in height to the bridge is now 18inch clearance underneath the bridge to the water line, there be a 24ft ramp gaining 6 inches 12foot radius curve.

The idea of the bridge being  6 inches higher, plan to build a model RORO ship and now build it to scale 380mm high, to the water line 298mm beam, 2.1metre long, she be a water line model, mixed trailers and containers, have seen cars and prime movers on the ship as well.

Will go nicely under my bridge, I also plan to build on the bridge a maintenance gantrycrane, pics on next post .

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Track is finely done on front corner and first station module, fish plates soldered in place on the module join and lift out section with bridge.

I have pulled the two modules apart now ready for the next step the bus wiring, I plan to improve the us wiring in underneath the lift out section on the first station module, making it easier to connect th bus wires to the speaker plugs, will make a small wire plug adjustable panel.



Pic one with the single slip cross over I will be having lots of fun shunting the two NR class locos and auto car carrier wagons around the Indian Pacific after arriving at East Perth Terminal Western Australia to unload cars and reload cars for the return journey back to Sydney via Adelaide .

I plan to add a third track for shunting the IP passenger cars, got enough room on the curved track decking which now isn't a spiral, the spiral has being shifted to the car port an instead be a 2perecent grade gaining 6 inches 24feet in length 12foot radius curve.




The second track join where the two coaches are is the second   track join for the lift out section, once out becomes Sydney Central and the inside track be covered with a platform, I like to plan ahead .


And the second track become a Terminus track, third track links up the outer track becoming  Suburban track and passing loop.





Last pic with track join, I had to make a wire clip to hold the module and bridge together as when I tightened the bolds , had a gap looks ok.

Today I plan to set up the spiral in the car port to see how it will fit, in so be changing the second approach module car  port end to the station.
On a high as I found the missing pic of the Bridge I am modelling, I wonder if I need to
start a new tread on the bridge and RORO ship to come, amazing what you can find out there on the magic WWW, pics on the find next post.

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I just got a news letter from Model Railroader with a link to detecting points where you can't see them on your layout, did a search and found the link instead of using the news letter link.

Azatrax, $39 US not bad , I hope to get the circuit board over here, can be used for lots more as well, I be buying one for automatic stitching on reverse loops, there is a video clip on the right had side of the page hopefully the page open up to the point switching.

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Yesterday I finishes soldering the feeder wires to the track and in under the module  stapled the wires in place to the front corner module, was planning to work on the bus working for the first station module, asthma is playing up and not too well, back into the bus wiring Wednesday.

I bought a full sheet of 12mm ply on Friday have to cut it up to fit in the car with back seats folded down. I have, done some big improvements in the car port end with the approach modules to the station complex  swapping a couple of modules around.

Which be my next job after the bus wiring, beyond the approach modules be the spiral and reverse  loop, I like think ahead on each module or curved section.

In the pic there be 11 terminus tracks merging onto the main line lots of cross overs and points needed, I joined on the side of the last station module stage two of the end station modules to see how the two approach modules will sit and to mark out and cut the module in the cat port.

I hope my asthma doesn't get any worse and slow down the progress of the layout construction, getting closer and closer to running the first test loco, yesterday it was quite warm and late afternoon cool jacket back on, wasn't too well last night.
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Hi Tony :wave:


Nice to see the progress on the modules.

Cool to have more or less got the electrical stuff sorted.


Some of the benchwork is looking more and more complex.

The photos in Post 166 & 168 give a great idea of how the whole project is set out.

Looking good !


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Afternoon Si, many thanks, this is what keeps me going on the Camdale story and more chapters to come,  story line is going to get more interesting now, being a long hall indeed.

Has taken a lot of years to master the soldering and not melting the covering on the wire from the soldering iron being too hot.

I set up two modules at once to  work on both, making it easier to cut the track on the module join saving getting a saw back and knees, the wiring is done the same way except be one module and got the modules up high enough as well.

Still not well can't shake the cough, my asthma may of being trigged from cutting some timber that is very many years old from my family's farm, the sawdust  was quite strong, I plan to turn the timber into an ornament got a wood lathe will have to ware a mask.

Hope you and your family are ok.
Here is another pic of  straightening up the two approach modules coming off the main line into the inside  last station module is part of stage two of the station complex.

Want to get back into finishing the bus wiring on the first station module and over the asthma by the weekend, be stating on the two new approach modules on the front station modules car port end.

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Looks like it is all coming together nicely tony.

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Hi Allan A, many thanks yeah it has being a long road so far, not quite onto the home run will be after the spiral that be another chapter.

Here is the next chapter to my novel, with pics telling the story.



The first pic I plan to put more of an angle to the two approach modules on the inside module to see if the track coming off the cross over is a lot straighter , this is only at the  planning stage can change when the second inside stage of the station modules complex is built late this year early next year.



The two last pics are what I am trying to achieve accessing platforms 1 to 4, the Indian Pacific uses on off peak platform 1 , peak times 2 and 3 , the train has 26 passenger cars of peak 18 cars.



The last pic showing platform one and two, the railmotor I came back from Canberra in very nice ride indeed about 11 tunnels be an awesome line to model 




The final pic attachment  is where the spiral will start at the  end of the 12foot curve, the has to moved out now to run trains as  the spiral will begin .

I still have the bus wiring chapters to complete, see  how I feel on  Wednesday.

More to come as I get closer to the end and see the first test loco run, can't wait.

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Having been through Sydney Central more then a few times, have to admire the project you have taken on. Looking forward to more in progress photos.

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Hi Ken C , many thanks my Sydney Central wont be as big as the real think, so I have remodelled the frontage  cutting back 10 windows will still be a stunning site to see indeed, my model be about 4 and a half feet wide to scale you need 8feet.

I will be modelling 9 terminus platforms, and three suburban platforms Sydney has 15 terminus platforms not sure on the suburban all up 23 I think, a friend built an N scale model of Sydney and took him 7 years to finish, mine be a lot quicker than that.

Hope to head back down to Sydney in early September to take more photos, only had a couple of hours there, missed a lot of photo shots, trying to get more plans as well be a big help.

I am having two main features on the layout Sydney one and the second on is of the Oresund double deck cable stay bridge between Denmark and Sweden, I was on the hunt for a modern double deck bridge design, only modelling the main span.

This has opened up to another side hobby model boats, on the drawing board is water line model of the latest RORO truck carrier ship takes containers as well, my bridge underneath water clearance be 18inches high.

Since I am not modelling Sydney central straight away I am modelling East Perth terminal where the Indian Pacific ends her journey, and later return, adding more platform track later, need to win the lotto to complete my dream layout quicker nice to dream

What scale do you model Ken.

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Never have been to the Perth terminal, in 2003 when I took the IP, boarded 5+ miles out of Perth. Looks like you could use a few Airfix? Bailey Bridge kits for the bridge.

I model in 1/48 scale NG. I model mostly South America
Rlys that are more or less 2FT 6In gauge. I have a mix of cars from around the world that have struck my fancy regardless of track gauge. I use the "Modellers Licence" concept from Gavin Hince NGDU.

Have built models of rolling stock from Canada, United States, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Peru, Belarus, Australia and New Zealand so far! Still have a few more to tackle

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Hi ken C, 2ft6 gauge what size trak is used fo that scale , my train club I hink has two outdoor gauges and one is 45mm and a few members model Puffing  Billy locos from the highlands in Victoria. style="background-color:

You have being busy building those kits do you have a web site to check out, I have a very old Hornby O gauge tank loco I plan to bing back to live with remotoring it with battery power and all new brass track by adding acoach perameantly to the loco, leaving the clock working in, still works wel for a 58 yeay old loco.  

"What kits did you buy from OZ, I am starting off another side line hobby model boats modelling RORO ships the one in question has containers as well as trailers, cars trucks and wind turbine generators, which I am modelling as a train load. Other one is the 737 fuselage as a train load did scratch build one out of carboard next one be out styrene. Still haven't recovered well from the asthama real pain, hopefully better by the weekend.

Not a bad idea, using those Bailey bridge kits, the lower deck has 6 inches clearance and a rail deck

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I use code 100 HO track, some PECO mostly Atlas flex track. No web site, have enough trouble with basic computer use.
With the closer look at the bridge, bailey bridges may not be the way to go.
Of the kits I have from Australia 4 are from Ian Lindsey,
3 log cars and a NT Insulated Van
3 Redfern? BP drop side gondolas
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The nearest SA modeller I know lives a 4 Hr drive away. I enjoy doing something different and displaying the models at our 2 show and tell meets held each year. Usually I come across a photo of a car then I start hunting for what I can use regardless of scale or what the maker intended it to represent.

Taking a break from car building, modelling the interior equipment for a Hydro Diesel plant. Next to nothing made for what I need so it has become 1 piece at a time, do have a milling machine and 2 metal lathes. After a lot of years, I finally got photos of the Magnetic Clutch stationary when the plant was shutdown due to intake blockages from spring runoff, the clutch was used to drive a 2 stage air compressor, which I am machining up now.

The diesel in use, while the hydro plant is down, is a 1952 "Blackstone". The model I am working on is pre 1952 when a Fairbanks-Morse diesel was in service, which has been replaced with a sister unit, which may one day be put back into service.

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Hi Ken, there are so many scales that use code100 confusing, sticking to mainly one scale, would like to get a Z scale tank loco and modified wagons to be modelled on the larger ride on gauges. you see on amusement parks an parks.

I mainly stick to RTR stuff, in the past was working on a resin break van till I dropped it, didn't bounce , cost a lot, not again, one of my projects is working on rebuilding an Athearn  DD40 into a DD/35B loco , haven't finished it will this year and a couple more locos.

Being on a budget I will be scratch building a lot of rolling stock which is out of my reach, I didn't go to this years train club show but did the year before and saw the prices o the RTR stuff, nice to look at.

My other interest is modelling the Boeing 737/757 fuselage for a train load and the wind turbine blades and other parts, I like to model what other members don't.

My challenge at the moment is modelling pedestal fencing used on the top of buildings, my station building is modelled on Sydney Central station frontage  wont be as long .

Any ideas on how to tackle the pedestal being so small 10mm ling by about 3mm thick, thinking of shaping a 3mm styrene rod with a file, to small to turn in my wood lath there are thousands of them needed and notal the same in length, so I think I will have to make single ones, they are in a group of 9 measuring 28mm in length .
Like to see some pics of your modelling give me ideas,
Good to have other interest that model trains and the skills with metal turning and milling, amazing what yo  can make with the right tools, be interesting to see how you progress with the build of the  clutch, what does the diesel power.
Warmer last night rain coming in to dry at the moment.
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Plastruct make a similar! railing in HO 9.9mm by 3.6mm in 165mm lengths. If you can live with a slightly different shape to them.

The catalog number is BALC 100

As to the F-M diesel, it was used to drive the generator and compressor via a belt drive, when a shortage of water or as in the case this spring to much blockage from rock & leaves brought down during spring runoff reduced water supply.
The Blackstone drives a separate belted Wismer & Rawlings 2 Megawatt generator.

I will work on taking photos of my various pieces of rolling stock and post in the right section.

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HI Ken, Many thanks for the link of Plastruct and the code number I have saved the link, hopefully there is an agent in down under where I can order a couple of packs, very close indeed height is not far off, 165mm in length, looking good.

I had a look at the pics and found I was slightly out and decided the draw up a plan with a group of widows on Sydney Central station frontage, will repeat the same on the other side of the building, I wish I had better drawing to go by and with the second trip planned for Sydney have more time to take the missing detailed pics

Let me know where you be starting up another thread, I will have to the same when I start working on my RORO ship project.

Tony from down under.

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Has anyone had any problems with the reply post, nearly done and comes up with an error  saying can't reach this page has happened a few times.

Have another got, Sunday I go stuck into doing the bus wiring , blocks one and two on the first station module, takes time luckliy didn't need to solder in any feeder wires but when I work on blocks 6 and 7  will feeder wires.




Pic one  continuing the bus wiring  form block one and two from the front corner module, using larger wires, blocks 6 and  7 will push through under the plug to connect to the other plug.


Second pic is the lift out section for when I will have Sydney Central set up, the small blocks of wood I cut the corners off on the two end ones making it easier for the wires.
Blocks 6 and 7 be on the inside of the red and green wires.





The last two pics I couldn't separate them, third last pic I stapled in two staples so I can tie the bus wires to the staples works well so when I take out the  lift out section just a matter of pulling out the wires, too easy.

The last pic of the other side of the beam where the four bus wire blocks continue on to the end of the module where the wires connect to the next module all that work just to run more than one train for DCC one day I will switch to DCC 

It was very windy here yesterday so no work outside, was watching a computer Tech replace my son's power supply in his computer, they know how to charge worth it, rather than take it to a shop and wait weeks.

All goes well I may shock everyone and manage to run the vey first test loco from the back of the layout through to the first approach module car port end, some time next week, three years in the making.

Tony from down under on a high:glad:

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Hi Tony :wave:


Lookin' good. :bg:


Roll on the first test run ... :cool:


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Morning Si:rah:,many thanks I will shock everyone, going to be a busy week, can't do anything tomorrow Doc's appointment early morning and funeral in the afternoon, my Mum's cousin passed away, hour drive  to her place and to the other side of Brisbane.

I still need to solder in feeder wires to two more blocks  on Friday to finish the bus wiring on that module, Saturday I will join the two 6 foot  radius curves and paint them, 7ft in length each and  start working on the grade up to the back corner module, grade is 24feet in length gaining 6inches, made a special jig for the level, 42inches in length.

I want to scratch a special track inspection loco as a test loco, got some bogies and motor from an old Bachman F/7 loco, good if I can get hold of a longer motor drive shaft..
Going to be a big moment running the first test loco, didn't they built a HST train into a track inspection train , yellow in colour.

Pretty hot over in the UK, was watching Germany pay the Socceroo's yesterday you could see the swat poring off the players.

Loading the pics on must of being the problem, ok now.
Tony from down under, we had 7 degrees over night, mild winter so far.






 

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Afternoon Ken C, good news my hobby shop in Ipswich can get those balcony rails in BACL-100 but double the price $23, after tomorrow I will order in two packs,.
Next job how will I go to mould them, it would cost a big fortune if I bought them, Sydney Central has heaps of the balcony rails and some smaller sizes, it works out 30mm in length all up 9 and two half ones perfect size in height. Doesn't on the shape of the pedestal as I won't be building the frontage of Sydney Central station building to full width, to scale  need 8feet , and 15 terminus platforms, all that track and points as well, my version will still look as stunning when built, length and height be to scale.
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Ouch! on the price, good luck with the casting of the number you will need for SC.

I am toying with the idea of modelling the Cuzco station on the NG that runs to Machu Picchu only 4 tracks, turntable and shops in a nice compact layout. Downside is that it takes 4 switchbacks a horseshoe curve and an S curve to get out of Cuzco. The STG / NG interchange requires another 2 switchbacks to reach the station. The tail track for the second switchback is within the station yards.

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Hi Ken C, nice I had a look on Google Earth if I had the right town put a search fro Cuzco station Peru, couldn't see a turn table, by the look of it a Wye as well, be looking forward to what you come up with.

Nice station too they have an old 0-4-0 tank steamy in display outside the station building , the pic didn't save .

Sydney has three sets of terminus tracks between the platforms so the locos can shunt around of the train. there is a turntable in the main yards further down the line, I have enough room on the right had side of car port to fit a turn tale to turn the steamy's around.

Yeah a bit dear that is why I want to cast the rest for, there is a member in my train club that has done casting  will chat to him., only going to buy two packs.

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Right place, wrong station, Wanchag Station is the end of the line for the STD gauge. Follow Av del Ejericton, (to the left) the railway runs along side this Avenue till just below the NG line where the STD/NG interchange yard is, a switchback carries the NG up to the station. "Estacion Ferrovaria de San Pedro".

Don't know if cold, temp here dropping to 6C at night
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Hi Ken Wanchag Station when I put a search in was  smack in the them middle  of the main run way of the airport, very hard to trace even on street view wasn't a clear picture at all, will try my wife's iPad, do you have any pics.

Getting stuck into finishing off the bus wiring for blocks 6 and 7 today in between looking after my son while my wife does the washing and goes down the local  shop
tomorrow be working on the curved ramp heading up to the back of the layout have to gain 6 inches 24foot ramp on a 6foot radius curve both curves are  7feet in length will look very good indeed.

Thinking about painting a back scene on the Blue Mountains  Ziz-Zag railway line was part of the main line till they pushed through the Blue Mountains 10 tunnels in all double track, like to do an arts course first.

Tony from cold down under. 

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Try San Pedro Station Cusco Peru on Google maps, center's on the station. I do have a few photos of the yard taken in 2000. Wish I had taken more at the time.
San Pedro Station on Google shows a few photos of the station.

Adding a backdrop of the Blue Mountains would look good.
Made a few trips there from Sydney, rode the Zig-Zag on my trip in 2003.

The Indian Pacific should look smart with the curves you are working on.

Ken from up over

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Hi ken bingo gee I wasn't far off, typing in San Pedro station gave me a far better  clearer picture, nice indeed can't to what you come up worth modelling that terminus station.
Saw the turn table too and loco shed .

Had a look on street view there must be markets across from the station lots of people around the entrance.

Where the Zig-Zag is the double track main line is an actual S bend and just past the Zig-Zag is a tunnel, I would love to spend a week in Sydney, so I can visit the Zig-Zag railway,as you worth modelling a scene I can plan down the track.

Those curves are actual 12foot quarter curves, meant for the Tehachapi loop, I scrapped the spiral wasn't working out.

Bought a Austrains DL class loco second hand from a bloke in the NSW, GSR use the DL's to double help with the NR's over the Blue Mountains very hard loco to get hold of now, a loco I missed when it came out, may get it repainted in the latest PN blue colour scheme .

I did some wiring today stripping the bus wires mid stream and wrapping the feeder wires on ready for soldering tomorrow.

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Have found a quicker way to splice the bus wires mid stream and solder the feeder wires to the bus wires, I don't use tape any more use heat shrunk much neater and lasts for ever.

What I do is cut a small cut in the piece of heat shrunk push the feeder wire through and same with the bus wire and  twist the feeder wire around the bus solder then push the heat shrink piece to the middle of the spliced bus wire touch the iron to melt the heat shrink pure magic. Continue on and once done pair the bus wires off and push the feeder wires into the hole in under the base board to the track ,too easy, cut the time from the old down by half, last of all staple the bus wires in place, turn the module over and solder the wires to the track.







The two wires red and blue in the base board makes it easier the put in the right colour code.

I am glad I last out and bought the wire strippers, money well spent.




The third pic with the bridge the wires  hanging down is blocks 6 and 7 they connect to the front corner module and the double plug, blocks 1 and 2 connect to the speaker plug, when I set the  two modules up the wires be cut to length .

The last pic with the bus wires out, I tinted the wires making it easy to push into the plug and better connection as well, Also handy to keep the off cut wire to use as ties, I actually put in staples for the wires to tie too

Rain coming in this week I was planning to work on the curved ramp heading up to the back corner module, will have to work on the first approach module car port end and the next two approach modules, depending on how long the rain lasts will move onto the spiral, still hopping to run the very first test train  next week end.

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Have to start again I went to my favourite folder to get a video link and  tried to get back to the new reply post and came up with that error message cant' access the page so los the four pics and typing, anyone have the same issue. 

This time I will put the video link on first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG3bSldkgn0



The DL class loco is of the first colour scheme Australian National orange and gray , gone through three colour schemes, latest colour scheme blue and yellow Pacific National, I am thinking of getting the loco repainted to the new colour scheme, depending on the price..

Can't wait till when I build stage three of the station complex where it will have platforms one to four and actually shunting the same as in the video clip, I now have all three locos including the newest one off colour scheme NR18 Indian Pacific .




I have always wanted to try the way I have done in the mock-up pics for ages wasn't possible till I changes the approach modules car port end where the new spiral be going to be able t access five platform tracks using a double slip and three way point very expensive module.

Not sure if I will motorised points as the main control panel be close by, would like to use the point lavers added costs, thinking of those model plane servos.

  The set of points and cross over  in front of the others I may have some issues there with the main line bus wiring, an ideas be helpful.


Last pic I will have to wire in a short block that way I can shunt with ease and not affect the main line, the last module in the car port is where platforms one to four  track feed onto the main line, be cut to size.


I am working on a cross cutting jig for my circular saw so I can cut a square curt every time making it a lot easier and  quick at the same time will finish it today pics to follow.

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Here is the latest pic of my circular saw cross cutting jig, a it  like a radial saw arm only cost me $ 12 for the aluminium angle line I already had the timer, since my circular saw is a 18volt battery saw it is a lot lighter than an electric saw is. The thickness of the angle line is 1.5mm , the saw only has a 45mm cut, designed the jig to cut 42mm square timber posts.

I didn't want to make the cutting area any longer for storage in the garden shed, later I plan to screw in an extension later so I make a clamp to cut a lot of pieces the same length, the plan is to also be able to cut the timber at different angles, my other hobby is woodturning and now I be able to cut pieces of timber  at the right angles to turn a segment bowl or platter, different colours.

Might get the chance tomorrow afternoon to test the jig out in cutting pieces of ply to screw onto the modules legs for the hinges, need for pieces the size of the hinge.

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Here is another pic, I am thinking of buying some heavy tape to cover the screw holes, has saved buying a sliding mitre drop saw.

After I made the first cut I got the hand saw and made the wider.

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Hi Tony :wave:


Interesting jig for the saw !! :bg:


I have a couple of those saws.


I would like to mount 1 upsidedown on a small bench.

Your jig idea is very C :cool: :cool: L



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I guess the temps. are a bit kinder is Aus. at the moment ! ;)

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Hi Si:rah:, thanks  I got the idea from you tube and the amount of ideas that is out there to do with wood working on you tube is incredible.

What you need is a Triton saw bench they can take any saw brand, I had one, was getting dangerous when trying to rip full sheets of ply, I needed to extension benches cost more that what I bout the portable saw bench for, Bunning may still sell tem .

Sold it and bought the Ryobi 18volt saw, great for ripping sheets of ply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbGG1jbbqUA

Year warm week here this week in the mid twenties going to make the most of it, drooping down again next weekend, Jack Frost hasn't paid us a visit as yet, when he does  that be the end of the green grass.

What is the weather like in England hot.

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Hi Tony :wave:



Well ... a 'mini heatwave' a week ago !

The hottest single period since the summer of '76 ( which I remember ! )

Was around 35c ish for a few days & then 30c then back down.



Kinda low to mid 20s here this week. :bg:



My friend has just got some 18v tools, he likes 'em very much.



I would like to somehow set up a saw for 'miniature wood cutting'.

Like 1/8" 1/4" 3/8" sizes or thereabouts.

Will get a round tuit one day ! ;)



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Hi Si, warmer morning 11 degrees to a nice 25 degrees during the day, in rain in site.
That is pretty hot 35c degrees our mild summer days, we go into the low 40's.

Build your own saw bench the way to go just finding the time, here is a very good you tube link give you some ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF5RjNDCKlU.

The beauty of 18 volt tools no more leads to get in the way  I have  an electric drill don't use it much now mainly as a bench drill, it is hand as well to buy the more powerful 18volt batteries especially with the saw which need more grunt, I use 5amp batteries for the saw and impact screw driver drill, once my jig saw packs up be buying a battery one stick to the one brand Ryobi, can build a module in one day now complete with legs.
Don't think I get anything done today, Physio coming after lunch  to see my son, can't do any work while she is here, wait till tomorrow , after brekkie going to the local  hobby shop to buy the single slip cross over $60 will complete the first approach module southern end.

Can't wait to use the cross cutting jig tomorrow finish screwing the hinges in place on the module legs then I can paint the module ready to start laying the track and points, never ending , wiring after that , worth the effort.

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What a find, when I buy  a diesel or steamy I like to do a search if they are still in use on the main line, I was looking at another link on you tube and saw the Indian Pacific link checked it out. WOW the second loco is my loco I just bought DL41 with a different colour scheme and new owners Pacific National yellow and blue,  I am thinking of getting hold of Pacific National decals can change the name which you can buy.

The day I want to test out my circular saw cross cutting  jig it is dam raining, no rain going to stop me do the cutting in under the pergola, only got four pieces of ply to cut for the module legs hinges to screw onto.

Before that I am extending the table top past the saw blade so I have an adjustable clamp to short strips of ply, be safer as well and get rid of the off cut ply, next step is to set up to cut different angles will have to buy an adjustable set square.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ijcfj9L3XY

Enjoy the video clip and more to check out as well on the Indian Pacific, sadly too I found out the time table for the Indian Pacific only one service a week and they don't use platform one any more either, have to model in after 2000 and before.

The train is so long they split it coming into central using platforms two and three, I have enough carriages the same colour to make up 28, what ever era I model can't wait all that fun in shunting, there is on the side video clip links  of that happening splitting the IP.

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" The beauty of 18 volt tools no more leads to get in the way "



Hi Tony :wave:



Exactly what my friend said about his.

The other thing he said was ...

... when you drop 'em off the scaffolding ...

... they don't stop after a few feet !



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Hi Si:rah:, I don't think I would like to drop mine off the table onto the concrete floor, I make sure the tools are on the floor  and just get knocked over, wouldn't be able to replace one from a fall in hurry.

We had one of the coldest days today, on top of it raining as well, didn't go over 15c degrees, don't know what it was over night but warmer tonight and a sunny weekend, couldn't try out the cross cutting jig will tomorrow, make the most of the weekend rain coming in again on Monday all week

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Used the cross jig for the first time today and WOW she worked perfectly, I just have to sort out the best way to cut the small strips of ply.

 

Pics one is after cutting the 8 pieces of ply for the module post hinges, pic two showing how I made a clamp to cut the 8 pieces at the same length.






The jig will for sure speed up the cutting of the sides of the modules, today I will screw the pieces of ply onto the module legs with the hinge and paint in under the module. Tomorrow paint the top side of the module and back into nailing the track and points and all over again the bus wiring never ending all goes well will come to an end just before Christmas worth the long build.


Before I used the jig I did a mock-up point plan swapping the points around, worked out well, will have to buy the single slip cross over now saving on a couple of points.


Tony from cold down under , we had over night 1.4 degrees ouch to a nice 22 degrees today.

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There is no more mock-up module point plans for the first approach module car port end, got the nod to actually get the track gang on the move and start nailing down the points  permanently, modules is now fully painted as well.

Where you see the cross over I have the point back to front, have to go to the hobby shop in Ipswich and buy the right one, the only other change is  in shifting the diamond cross over to the first point.

Going to be a lot of fun and tricky bus wiring , what I hope to do is further up just past the last approach  module is the first curve there I will have  cross over points to the left track and hoping switching the point will cut the bus wiring but the bus wiring in front of the point be still powered, will  have operating three way  signals. will that idea work?????


Full swing into track and point laying, I will have to mark centre holes on the points for s switch bar.

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Nearly done with the points on this module, a tip to the local hobby shop in Ipswich will complete the module, then I will mark where to drill and lift he points and double slip cross over drill the holes for the switching pin nail the points back down.

Then nail the track down, next job make the mini bus plug adjustable panel, finely the bus wiring, completing another module a week later, this be the last module that has a lot of points on it, next module two points  and diamond cross over.

Only a couple of curves sections have a two points, be a lot quicker to nail the track down.nearly there.

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I have made the bus wiring panel of the module, with the help of the cross cutting jig made it a lot easier and quicker to cut the pieces of ply needed.

Still I have to move the panel up evenly or it will jam at least it doesn't drop back down when up inside the module frame.

I still have to make a smaller one to take three more blocks for the planned extension for the main line, for two passing loops and single track, I have yet again redesigned the back of the layout and scrapping the double deck cable stay bridge, was going to cost too much to build.


Have come up with my own design still a double deck bridge but with the arch design like the Sydney Harbour m bridge, arch be cut out of ply and main span 11feet and height of the span 18 inches in two half's, making use of the sheet of ply I have got., I be using 5mm dowel for the top deck supports. Be a quicker bridge to build, will still need the cut framing between the road and rail deck, be making a bracket to join the two half's of the arch still be an awesome site indeed  and a second feature for the layout.

Tony from cold down under has being a cold week.

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Decided to do away with the points and diamond coss over in frount of the loco,have enough points to link up the terminus track to the main line went back to the first point mock-up plan .






Today I be soldering tose strips of brass plated circuit board to the module track join them cut the track moving the last station module out the way , be in full swing doing the bus wiring, last station module need buswires as well , be glad to see the end of the fron modules rest be a piece of cake.


Did have an issue with downloading the pics from the gallery to the post couldn't access the first tab worked the second time .

Tony from cold down under zero degrees this morning to a 24 degree day, the weekend be 27 degrees.



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Have soldered the brass plated circuit boards in place on the module track join next, had to be carefull when counter sunking the hole a couple I had to replace because the drill bit wne straight through.

Next time I will use the portable bench drill stand next module.

Tony from down under, hit minus .4 degrees this morning .

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At long last the two modules were finely pulled apart, tested again how the track on the joins go, linned up perfectly 

All over gain the bus wiring will begian on Friday in full swing.

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Started planning front module number six car port end point mock-up plan worked out so well I nailled nails where the diamond cross over is to go, other points ans track for when I paint the module after screwing the sides and beams in place wont need any legs.

The approach module I drilled all the holes for the feeder wires pushed feeder through so when the module is on its side I know what colour wire to solder the feeder wires to the bus wires, will take a fewdays to finish the bus wiring. on the module. The last station module needs to have baus wiring as well, next job.

Had a big update in win 10 last week, lost spell check, Power DVD had to reload it and find a missing file
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I have decided to buy for the next module left hand points to straghten up the mainline so high speed trains can through with ease and much beetter as well for access to platform eight which is block 6.

Blocks 3,4 and 5 to the right of the pic being the main line and suburban through island  platform with passing loop.

Blocks 6 and 7 are the temporary main line till I add on the suburban exstension stage two, a lot of fun there, stage three be five more tracks leading into four plaforms, and temporary staging yard.


Be finishing off the last two bus wires blocks 16 and siding and soldering the feeder wires to the track,running out of wire competting the approach module long last today.

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Just as well the right had track of the pic after the last left hand point is where block 3 ends and block 16 starts , block 15 that has aright hand point will have plastic joiners as  thewell feeds onto block 14 the short block.

Will be controlled by signals, I make my own, haven't made three way signals, going to be fun especially when I switch over to DCC, not far way.

A closer pic of the diamond and points.

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The soldering of the feeder wires to the track on the approach module is done, got the soldering of the feeder to the track done to a fine art now, the key is making sure the soldering tip isn't too hot and it is clean.

Yesterday I made good progress on the next module cut the sides and screwed in place one end and sides, these 18vot bettery circular saws are great, mine is a Ryobi middle of the range.

Today I will finish screwing the sides and end , drill one hole for the bolt and set up two of the modules so I can level tis modue, have alsocut the top of the module after this onem coming along nicely, still aiming for just before Christmas to heve the first track circuit up and running.

I have a new progect under way, my Uncle gave me all his trains and he had a few Satna Fe F7 locos, I be modelling Santa Fe's Super Chief, came across two F7/B loco shells b painting them in santa Fe colour scheme, mixed one Athearn, one lifelike and two Tyco, Tyco's be in the middle. Sadly yesterday he lost his fight with cancer and died late yesterday afternoon, this progrect be even more special now.

Spring is around the corner, winter haisn't lost it grip it is a cold windy day here 21 degrees 2 degrees over night , crazy we had on Wednesday 33 dgrees.

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Hi Tony :wave:



Lookin' good ! :bg:



The height of the 'British Summer' today ...

... brought high wind, hail stones & rain ! :f:


Must be pretty cold up ^^ there, damn freezing on the bus !



All the best.



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Hi Si, many thanks hare are some more pics to see what I did today.

We can cop some real bad storms  we are well over due for one, I have to dig out a channel to lay some dranage pipe to stop the storm water washing out our bark in the garden, before the the stormy hits and cyclones.

The first pic of the modules set up third one has being levelled 



Quite happy after boltiing the last station module and approach module the tracks linned up ok, the first track on the left of the join inside a bit high rest are ok, will do a pre set up of all modules and curves before thefirst train runs.




Happy with the two modules joining up after being bolted and screwed 



Looking down from the car port going to be a sit indeed all modules as set up.




The last pic on how much I had to cut out of the 100mm side, I will get the jig saw and the rest off half way along, I want to be able to put in pavers for the ply to sit on rather than gravel.


I haven't forgotten how to upload the pics from win10 to my post pure awesome.

A question Si a few weeks back I had a large win10 update and lost spell check, funny thing is spell check is working on my emails and not the forum, have to use my iPhone, miss spell check, is a settineg in the forum ,my lapot has the spell  check ticked.

Rest day tomorrow, don't think I get a chance on Monday car washing day, Tuesday I back the car out so I can set up the fourth straight module and the large 12foot quater radous curve deck ,the rest of the track decking be a lot easier only track and 6inches wide same with the curve decking some single track.

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Hi Tony :wave:



I don't have Windows-10, so can't really say much about it.



If your chell-specker worked on Freerails before the Microsoft Update ...

... & stopped working after that Update ...

... all I can assume, is that it is yet another Microsoft screw up.



Nothing has changed here at Freerails & rarely does ( thank god ).



Sorry I can't be of more help.

Good you've still got the Members Gallery working for you though.



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Evening Si, yes spell check did work beofer the update, next laptopI am thinking of buying Apple, do  you have appe and does the Freerails work with apple is the question.
Mainly to do with uploading pics to the forum, might try it later send some pics to my son and he can send the back, win10 again.
Yeah great you sorted the posting of pics for win10 thankyou Si:Salute:.

Between now and Christmas I am working on a new project,, my Uncle before he sadly passed awasy losing the fight to cancer gave me all his trains, he has 4 F7/A Santa  Fe locos, a mixture of brands, I bought two F7/b unpainted shells to paint up as Sant Fe colour, modelling the Super Chief, sadly as well Amrtak have changed the the name to Southwest Chief.

I be getting a small plugue done to put in under the main loco be a special set indeed was pretty to him got the carriagers as well, will be the first train to run on the layout Christmas time.

We had zerro this morning winter not letting go to quickly, will make the most of the mild weather before summer hits, hope spring doen't go rignt into summer.
There are not many pics of  Santa Fe's Super Chief 

Tony from cool down under, you be glad to see the  end of your summer.



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The Super Chief is a nice train !

I had 2 'A' units in N-scale years ago.

Didn't have the right coaches though. :f:

I do have an old Tri-ang HO F-unit now, in 'faux' Santa Fe colours ;) sort of.



I have a P.C. and a very old 10.4 OS Mac, a friend gave me.

I mostly use the vintage Mac now, as it happens.

Apple don't support it anymore of course.

But the nice people at Firefox STILL update their TenFourFox browser for it.



Any computer should work fine on the Forum.

Firefox is of course recommended.

Some 'whacky' browser set ups, may cause problems.



Macs are OK.

My main objection to them in the past, has been the excessive price tag.

I think we have reached the age of the 'disposable computer' basically.

You can now look at loads of stuff, just on a phone of course.

It depends if you have 'demanding' needs like 3D or video-editing mainly.

Then you DO have to spend a few Bucks.



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Morning Si:wave:that is th e best pic I have seen on the Super Chief  had to find pics, I have always wanted to get the F7A's and B's an old loco but still RTR New ones are pretty dear to buy, this be a  special loco set indeed, waiting for the two F7/B sheels to arrive from east cost US arriving end of August, can't wait.
My laptop will have to pack up before buying a new one, another question with your mac can you post pics from the forums gallery, second backup plan is go for an IPad with a bigger screen, no DVD rom though would have to buy a portable one, a long way off .
I am putting all my efforts into the Layout, not going into a lot of scenery only  the two bridge ends and station complex.
How are you going with your layout any progress.

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Hi Si, this is very interesting, spell check works on iPhone, it is win10 update that lost spell check on my lap top.                                
I can access  iCloud only one pic but will have to find out if I can resize pics.
If the lap top ever packed up will have a cheaper option to fall back on.
Keep you posted 

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'Hi Tony :wave:



I wasted TONS of time doing music recording on computers for years !

In the end, I said enough's enough, a bought a bespoke hard-disk recorder.

Press record, it records ! ... Press rewind, it rewinds, etc. etc.

More than could be said for most computer music hardware !



Computer so -called 'up-grades' & new software etc. is a bottomless pit of time consumption.

My new policy to avoid all that, is simply, if it works, STICK WITH IT.

No problem with posting pix. or anything else, on the Power-P.C. chip vintage Mac.

Firefox is the key here, Apples own 'Safari' browser though, is about as random as Microsofts I.E. etc. IMO.



Busy enjoying car scratchbuilds, loco bashes, vehicle kits & some structure work.

So not much sense in chopping up wood for layouts, until I have my cars made.

Got slightly diverted on some Tri-ang vintage HO recently as well.

So, alot to do, and patience as always for us modellers is all important.



Saw a great T.V. prog. the other day.

Chris Tarrent rides the Ghan-Train, from South to North Aus.

One of the best in the series, I thought.

Amazed that the dry & arid outback, sometimes FLOODS and washed out track, back in the day !



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Hi again Tony :wave:



Thought you might like this.

Here's my 'faux' Tri-ang Super-Chief !

I know the 'nit-pickers' might dispute a few minor details here. :P

But to my 10-year old eyes ... This IS the Super-Chief !





I know you like coaches Tony.

So this time, I actually have a load of the last-series Tri-ang 'Transcontinental' red & stainless stock for it !

A couple of passenger cars, a baggage car, dining car & vista-dome observation car. :)



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Hi Si:wave:, we all used to do that I started off copping LP to cassette,, then the CD came along  and I diccovered how to copy LP to CD using the computer,should of kecpted all my LP's as they are making a return and the LP turn table USB plug these days.
Now the big thing is music strimmming at a cost, a lot of new cars don't have CD players
we found that out when we had to hire a car for a week when our car was getting fixed eigth USB or Blue-tooth, our  missed out the next model after ours had blue-tooth.

Have heard the  saying if it works don't touch it, we wanted to service a box air-con a few years back and that is what the Tech said, if we did get it serviced she would of lasted a few more years , last winter the Ac didn't work got a bloke out to look at it and he took the front cover off and she was caked  with dust. Had to undo screws and was worried I couldn't put the cver back on, new one the front pulls off.

No room to fit a split air we had to go for box AC again Ketvinator are the only mob that do box AC's has more grunt to the old Panasonic.
I didn't know Tri-ang did larger scales nice loco, how old is the loco, Super Chief came in so many different logos not just Santa Fe, is that what you call your yard 13th street.

Yeah I love coaches have more passenger trains than freight, workin gon building up my freight collection, after sortin gout my uncles trains I ended up with a lot of bogies decided to start yet again another project scratch building UP's refriderator 64ft reefer cars smooth sides be easy to scratch buld got some measurements from a friend.What I should do is buy one wagon and coply form it may do, after I finish working on my santaFe's SuperChief project.

Be nice to see your coaches behind the Faux SH, love those pics for Si.
Not much happening today, back on the layout tomorrow, will back the car out set up all the decking see how it fits to the new track plan, lots stilla head.

I will  have to start on the last station module bus wiring, will have the bus wiring panel to the main control panel, then I be able to pack the modules away wife is fed up.

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I switched to Google Chrome  after testing it on my sons computer with spell check what a very big dissapointment, spell check worked on win7 got to be win10, up Micosoft they should be told they stuffed up yet again.

One good thing Chrome is a lot faster than Edge, a matter of getting used to it, took some time to change all the setting with the help of my son.

I have a new progrect my Uncle gave me all his trains and he has 4 F7/A Atheran locos a mixture, first on is an Athearn scond two are Tyco and last one Life like the two Tyco wont run with the front and back locos. 
Decided I look for F7/B shell on eBay came across a seller that had two of them unpainted, I be painting them to the Santa Fe colour scheme and modelling the Super Chief got the coaches a mixture though, some be in early Amtrak colours, they started painting some of the Santa Fe coaches to Amtrak colour schem, till I get the right coaches.

THe B's will be dummy locos .

Will look good becide the new Amtrak phase four colour schem super liners,have a set of
10 of them.



The locos to the right, the three red ones need a lot of TLC to get them running again rest work, the others need replacement hand rails and new decals on the CSX loco, I may rebuild them into different locos once the super Chief project is done.


Last pic is he best loco by far runs well, not bad for a Hornby tender drive loco, but I don't know it's class non-think on the boxBritish Rail Decal on the tender, any idears



I had a good day workin gon the layout finely reached the car port side wall 6 inches out big milestone.


More to tell and pics in next post.

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Hi Tony :wave:



The Tri-ang 'F'-Unit isn't large-scale, it's HO ! ...

... alongside 13th Street Yards, Woodland Scenics HO pickup & Prieser hi-viz dude !! :P



Quite a collection of U.S. locos you've got there Tony ! :shocked:  :thumb:



My big gripe about current so-called 'upgraded' music technology ...

... is that most of it, is a HUGE step backwards, in view of what COULD be possible.



Any modern 'USB turntable' is a MASSIVE step backwards in sound quality ...

... even compared to the super-budget, but excellent, Dual-CS505 turntable, of 30 years ago.

Of course it is the 'mechanical acoustics' which count here, NOT the microchips.

Although in my experience the microchips are mostly a MASSIVE step backwards ...

... compared to some from 30 years ago also.



The problem with 'music streaming' is that the sound quality is mostly truly TERRIBLE !

I listened to Eagles LP 'Hotel California' streamed on a Mac, using a very high-quality '80s DAC recently.

What is a SUPERB studio-recording, had ALL THE LIFE sucked out of it, with the streamed product.



I also downloaded a very rare, but recent, favorite artists album from Amazon.com the other day as well.

This artists actual CDs & LPs are ALWAYS of the highest recorded & manufactured sound quality.

The Amazon.com download however, was overloaded & distorted throughout, from beginning to end.



Is this what we call an 'upgrade' & progress ?



L:



Si.



Been collecting a number of 'train sounds' CDs recently, for some 'atmosphere'.

Some interesting & high-quality recordings are available out there, if you nose about a bit.

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Hi Si:wave:, its that word again technology, wow spell check is working now, digital cameras depending on the angle of the pic makes the object larger  than what it is.

I forgot to comment to that dodo you saw on the Ghan, Adelaide to Darwin, I have the two Ghan NR class locos  109 and 74 only have a couple of Ghan coaches , I cover up the Indian Pacific logo, would like a second set of the Lima coaches need to win the lotto they cost $70 now.

Don't do any CD or DVD copying  now as you say quality isn't there they should drop the price of the CD and Blu-rays down a lot so people don't have do any pirating  of shows, I ordered a Bee Gees double CD set out of production for years cost me $45 from America.

All up gained 15 locos, and a lot of freight cars and passenger cars, through out quite a fe of the freight cars and kept the bogies to scratch build those refrigerator 64ft reefer cars.
  I am on a high reaching the side way of the car port be easier now, I have just about all the decking cut now even the bridge will do that in stages be a big job cutting all the sides.

Cutting and screwing the sides on the the third module in the car port Friday and finishing off the second one ready for painting, back into track laying.


When I bolted the approach module to the last station module one of the tracks aren't lining up will have to fix it a matter of  plugging the screw hole and re-drilling, I saw a great idea  should of saved the pic of a bloke having adjustable module track joins.


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Pic at different angle.
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Have rebuilt my cross cutting jig and it now is portable ran out of time yesterday to finish it only needing the second ange line running to screw in place then ready to go. 
It took a some time to get going in the project screwing the base into the sides, can't wait to test it also invented a bar clamp pic on next post, wonder if I should start a new thread on what tools everyone uses to build their layout and projects???
Will be fixing the bar clamp up so when it tighens up it tightens square, I get most of my idasfrom you tube amazing what is out there.


Don't know if I will get a chance to finishing the jig today  after brekkie going to a hobby expo in the next suburb not too far to travel, after info on to build my RORO truck ferry and getting 72 scale prop blades for a Martin Mars fire tanker will depend on how dear the model kit is if I scratch build one.

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Here is the pic of the bar clamp.


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Si,

You were talking about how dry arid places can wash out track.

Death Valley averages two inches of rainfall a year...sometimes all at once!

     https://www.nps.gov/deva/learn/nature/flood-2015.htm

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgfpPBOOyo0


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Hi Michael M, Have heard of Death Valley, yeah over here when the monsoons  hit up north around Alice Springs can be like what is in the video, they had to build a new Ghan rail line because the bridges were washed out and the old Ghan was stuck for a couple of weeks before the line was repaired.
Have finely finished the circular saw cross cutting jig and tested it today perfect, can now cut like a pro square cut every time and much better with the saw in the near middle of the jig saving a few bucks.


Tony from down under, few days left of winter, was quite  cool today. 22 degrees cold wind



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One more pic of the finished cross cutting jig.

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Got a chuckle of your cold weather, 22 sounds great, hitting 30 today in the GWN, to hot for me. Likely only get to my local for a few cold ones! today.

I see you added a Martine Mariner to your build list, watched one last year making water pickups for water bombing, one big plane to model even in HO.

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Hi Ken C, 30 degrees is mild for us in summer, we feel it in winter even though the coldest it drops to has being minus one  for a couple of morning, it goes to the extreme in summer peaking 42 degrees too hot under the pergola 40 degrees no work on the layout inside  the house in 24 degrees.

How cold does it get in Canada where you live I would think around the minus 20F degrees

Those Martin Mars water tankers are a huge plane, I am tossing if I buy a kit in 1/44 scale, the other scale is 72 might be too big for HO scale, the problem in 87 scale is getting hold of 4 bladed propellers, I have drawing of the plane .

It is amazing what caught my eye  was a Martin Mars based at Shasta Lake in California near the Pit river double deck bridge, I want to model that scene  my bridge be a modern design, have to work out where the main span be much longer in my bridge also modelling a scene with a RO,RO ship passing under the bridge, be a water line model.

I am still waiting for those pedestal rails will have to chase up my local hobby shop where are they, just as well not in a hurry.

Tony from down under 23 degrees today 3 overnight .

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Minus 20C is getting cool, I've have had to work outside in temperature's approaching minus 40C, glad to be retired!.

I will stop by the local RC shop tomorrow, will take a look for 4 bladed, 72In Dia prop's suitable for HO, sometimes you never know what may be available.

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Ken, ouch minus  50 having to work in those low temps and rugged up as well making it hard to move freely.


That be great if you have look for those four bladed propellers suitable for 87 scale, if you do find the props will have to give me the link to your local hobby shop,  my hobby shop doesn't sell those parts.


We are having 30 degrees on Sunday hope that means we will jump straight into Summer temps, better get a move on with the layout build, aiming for the big day Christmas week.


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Stopped by LHS, afraid nothing comes close to prop's suitable for a 1/87 model of the Martin Marnier. I would go with the 1/72 model, placing it in front of trackage which would add perspective to the layout.

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Evening Ken, thanks for looking, that is the trouble with 87 scale, I also model 737 fuselages for a flat wagon load, not much in the way of 72 scale 737 kits , too dear to cut up a kit so I built my own 87 scale fuselage, I have a thread on that topic .

I can get  4 bladed 72 scale propellers close to the Martin Mars even the engines will save some time trying to build engine covers as well .

Planning another scene for my bridge 14ft main span for a shipping channel with a RO RO ship passing under the bridge like in the pic, so yeah I like to have different hobbies all in one .

The ship in the pic is the one I want to model trying to find a deck and bridge plan of the ship got a side plan.

It was quite cold here this morning  had zero to a nice 23 degree day, winter is trying to gang in there only a couple of days left of winter.


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I understand the spreading out of interest, Have a couple of 1/48 scale boats, a tug and Great Lake freighter (R/C), 5
aircraft Walrus, 3 Mosquitos, and a AVRO ARROW to build.
Slowly working on a model of a Hydro Plant, I built 1 years ago in 1/64, but this time I would like to model the operating equipment and plant in 1/48 scale.

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Hi Ken, be interested on how your builds of the Walrus 3 Mosquito favorite twin air craft, she looks good with two four bladed propellers have seen pics , Avro Arrow will have to do a  a search of .


The great lakes freighter be huge in 48 scale is she a water line model, don't forget to show pics of your  Hydro plant you are building.

At them moment I am working modelling the F7 /A-B-B-A Santa Fe super chief,  thought I try and modify a Tyco F7/A bogies to fit into an Athearn F/B loco shell didn't work bogies are too large. Going to buy another Athearn F7/A powered and swap shells over and use one of the Tyco F/7/A loco for the rear loco, till I get a replacement possible a Life like.

Already using a Life like which runs well with the F7 Athearn.


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  Forwarding a couple of photos of the S scale model I built of the Silversmith Power Plant.














Still operating after 100 years of service
































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  Second photo of the plant, and yes the closest tank is crooked, by the early 1970s the wooden pad had rotted and allowed the tank to lean.

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 Third photo, the two pipes, on left side, larger pipe  was the water supply to the plant, smaller pipe was an air supply line to the mine itself. Power was supplied to the mill the Silversmith purchased in 1921. Present day mill is the 4th mill built on the foundation's of the first mill in 1897. 

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Hi Ken, WOW that is pure awesome I could see that scene sitting on my layout at a distance , is the real thing still standing and working amazing, nice keep  them coming.

I just bought another Athearn powered F7/A Santa Se loco , chassis for the second f7?b shell  and the shell for a Bachman F7 chassis which I put back together last night, still working, all I need to do is now solder the wires to the bogies.


Next step is when the Athearn F7 arrives I will have to modify the shell to fit the Bachmann chassis on a high, all the F7's together in Santa Fe colours going to be an awesome site indeed all powered, one set of locos I have always wanted  can cross off the loco  list now:moose:

Working on the layout today finishing of the second and third car port modules and painting them ready for track laying and wiring never ending, still pushing for Christmas week the only hold up run out of track , more track for Christmas hopefully a full Peck flexi box.


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Hi Si:wave:, totally agree.

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The plant is still operating, driving a 2 MEG generator,
not modeled was the new addition? (1952) which housed a Blackstone Diesel and another 2 MEG generator. The Air Compressor last operated in 1963.
The plant has had a few modification's over the year's with rotten wall section's cut out and concrete walls installed.
A concrete pad replaced the railway tie pad under the diesel tanks, the majority of the wood stave piping has been replaced with plastic pipe. I took a lot of photos over the years of the wood stave piping.

Will find a layout of the plant equipment and post later.

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   A plan of the Silversmith Plant, pre 1952 before the Blackstone was installed. Very slowly working on interior equipment for the next model in 1/48th scale, not much of anything premade other then the stove, so it has been a bit and piece project.  Finally got a few photos of the magnetic clutch when stationary, which drove the air compressor pre to 1963..
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Morning ken, nice, great to have a floor plan to go by do you have side view plans as well, what are you my Santa Fe F7/A-B-B-A loco project is coming along nicely I decided to use an older Bachmann F7/A chassis and motor for the first loco, had to put it back together.

Needs a lot more work, a bit noisy flywheels may be touching the chassis, motor isn't in a cradle may have get one, the second B loco meg is  Athearn as the next one as well when I arrives from US eBay and last loco is a Life Like loco runs well.

On a pretty big high to see the first loco working again, need to buy a fuel tank cover didn't have one , the second loco is missing a bogie side plate, found an eBay shop that has both needed parts.

going to be awesome when both B locos are painted in Santa Fe colours , can't wait for the loco to arrive around the 16th, there locos I have always wanted to have and the carriages like to win the lotto, do have enough to make up the Super Chief , I think 13 to 15 passenger cars.


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Here is another pic of the Life like loco, I need to get some Santa Fe Decals to fix up the logo on the front of the loco.


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Here is another pic of the Life like loco, I need to get some Santa Fe Decals to fix up the logo on the front of the loco.


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Ops , uploaded the post twice, here is a pic of the Athearn loco on it's way, I plan to use the shell on the lead loco and the chassis for the second F7/B loco was going to buy a dummy loco found this one motorist for the same price.

Going to be a challenge with using a different make shell, plan to modify the fuel cover to hold the shell on the  Bachman chassis.


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Will be a sight to see a Santa Fe Super Chief running next to a Indian Pacific train, mind you I do have an LMS Beyer-Garret 2-6-0+0-6-2T to haul my Kootenay Express Passenger train!.

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Afternoon Ken, yeah look even better with Santa Fe's Super Chief replacement Amtrak's Southwest Chief,  sad  indeed.

I have a full set of the super liners , not the AMD103 locos in the latest  phase 5 colour scheme that will change, the consist are 10 super lines for Amtrak's Southwest Chief.

Also got a set of Union Pacific heritage passenger cars for DD40AX 6936 I bought a plain Bachman DD40AX and had it painted in UP colour scheme with running numbers 6936 long before Athearn bough their 6936 out, thinking of re motoring the loco as I am having a lot of trouble with it.

Not sure if I will get outside on the layout today, my wife is very tired up to our son last night a few times, that happens when I don't hear him calling out, told her to have some shut eye today always tomorrow.

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Hi Ken, I forgot to mention that down the track I am looking into modelling my own Beyer Garret AD60 NSW ,2-8-4-4-8-4 buying two sets of 2-8-4 steam chassis and one whith a shell on it,a friend did the same a few years back.

They are pretty dear to buy RTR in the $900 mark and  a few issues with the cnnections on each chassis.

THat ship I aminterested in building a water line model of getting some help from another ship forum in PDF plans  pure awesome can't wait to see the plans, I have summer covered on those hot days can last a whole week in the low 40's.

Working on the layout finishing off the secon car port end module and starting on the third moving onto the curve deck , cutting sides for it to stop it bowing in the middle especiaaly when storied in the  garden shed.

Tony from down  under, a taste of summer today 32 degrees hot night 11 degrees and tonight 3 degrees  no wonder we are having a bad flue seaon .

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Good luck with your AD 60 build, still puttering around with my model of a Kitson-Meyer 2-6-0+0-6-2 T, based on the Baby Kitson delivered to the Ferrocarril de Cundinamaraca Railway in Columbia in 1928.

About the closest AU got to a Kitson-Meyer was a proposal sent to a Queensland Railway in 1911.

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Hi Ken, would love to see a pic of your Beyer Garret they are a huge loco ideal for tight curves handle better to the Big boys.
Here is a pic of QLD's Beyer Garret 1009 sadly was grounded because of the cab issue didn't pass work, health and safety on display at QLD's workshop museum . Ipswich.
Be a while before I make a start on my Beyer Garret version , concentrating on the layout want something to run around Christmas time.
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I thought I had a couple of photos of the Beyer-Garrett, will need to take a few and reload them to forward on.

Sounds like a typical govt concept, trying to fit todays reg's for something 50 years old. Still 1009 looks good.

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Hi Ken, be looking forward to seeing the pics of your garret, yeah they tried to modify the cab was going to too costly so sadly she was grounded permanently.

I was so close to getting plans of the Ro, Ro  ship I want to build a water line model of, wasn't going to pay 150 euros for the plans so close but so far away.

I sent a email to a model boat club in Brisbane to see if they can help me track the plans down.


Still looking for a good  pic of the bridge of the ship especially behind the bridge and top deck.
Tony from down under, cool morning here 3 degrees nice spring days, work progressing  on the layout today.
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Well under way working in the car port area, finished the second car port module and onto the third module, have come up with a new way to screw the top ply  top onto  the sides using corner clamps, should of thought of this idea years back speeding the module constriction much faster.

 

Pic two is how I line up the track up every time I join the modules together with just two screws , making it very quick to set each module up, so I may move back to the station modules to do aay with the bolts using a a special jig to hold the modules together less time on my knees only to plug up the bus wires.


Next pic  sliding the two modules together.



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Final pic both modules 




All I need to do is cut the two ends and two beams then be ready for painting back into track laying and bus wiring be pretty quick no with only two tracks, the next section is the curve,12foot quarer curve 7 foot long onto that straight section that one has track on it.
then a second straight and that one the double track ends single track linking up to the back corner module onto the bridge.

The north end will have the spiral  after other corner module, all the dection is cut already just a matter of building the spiral. and onto another large curve into the north approach module going to be ure awesome when the first train runs can't wait for the big day.

The only thing that will hold up finishing the first track circuit is run out of track, asking Santa for a full box of flexi  track, ha, ha.;)

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I had a very bad start to this week , Monday my son lost his fight to MD Passed away just before mid day, he had a cardiac arrest soon as I realist he was in trouble I started CPR compression's while my wife was on the phone to the Ambo's they were here in ten minutes.

He went so fast soon after he stopped using the sip and puff ventilator, the Ambo's said I did all I could would not of helped , we are glad he went peacefully  in no  pain his specialist said and he only saw his doctor a few weeks back.


Friday e a special day when he be cremated 9.am Friday my wife and me will stand in the lounge room  together and play his favorite music Cold Play, special moment where we  will say good buy.


I always talked about him on the forum I  thought I had to let everyone know.


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Sad to hear this news Tony. My condolences to you and your wife. Lots of strength desired for this hard time.

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Sorry to hear of the loss of your son, My thoughts go out to your wife and yourself for the future.

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Hi Irwin many thanks for the kind words from the Netherlands, Friday be very special day saying our good buys and letting go, I hope some of the carers can be here as well.
He was 31 years old just had a birthday two months back.  he should of passed away years back with all the new technology what the doctors have out now with ventilators was keeping the MD guy's live longer but sadly get weaker what was happening to my son..
Back into the layout in full swing I must get it up and running before Christmas, we wont be be here Christmas week.
Be cooling down where you are , taste of summer here today 34 degrees foggy morning.
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Hi Ken, many thanks for the kind words going to take some time to get through with what has happened, he passed away so quickly couldn't asked for any better than that and he didn't struggle for air what he was afraid  of 
Friday be hard especially 9.am, we can them move on.
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Hi Tony,
Words can't express how sorry i feel for you and your wife. Reading through your messages. I'm glad that you got some extra years with your son that you might not have. 


It hasn't been a good week here either. On Monday afternoon we had to put down our Golden Retriever, Lucy that we had with us for over 6 years. She was a 'rescue dog" that we took on, so she had extra time that she might not have got. She lost out to an aggressive cancer that got into her lymph nodes. Our loss pales into insignificance when compared to yours.
 
Take time to be with your wife, for as long as you both need. Camdale will still be there when you are ready to resume, as will we on FreeRails still be here, when you are ready. 


I will be thinking of you both of Friday morning,    

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Morning John, many thanks for the kind words, I still can't get around what has happened , sure has left a big hole in my heart, what is so hard we fought like cats and dogs when it was time to do stuff with him, but yet we had a lot of good times what I will miss dearly.

Yesterday I had some closure, we took  back to Prince Charles hospital his three ventilators back and cough  assist machine and thank the specialist one of  his specialist was there waiting for me to turn up and thanked him and the sleep clinic stuff for doing what they did for.I also donated his sip and puff adjustable arm so another boy could use they cost over $300. Sorry about you dog as well we had that many years back with our Chihuahua had to put her down, like your dog was a part of the family, yesterday we took here ashes to the crematorium  to go with our son .

His equipment is going today, bed next week, be setting up his computer in his room and using it till it packs up all together, won't be using the lap top much.

With Camdale I be in full swing Sunday pushing to get the layout up and running before Christmas not much time as we be going a way for a week over Christmas, I don't think we be staying here for ever will have to down size hopping a town house where I could set up a railway, stay as long as we can, just replaces two air- cons and ceiling fans.

How are you going with your layout John, crazy here was 32 degrees yesterday now 25 and tonight 1 degrees.

Thank you again for the kind words will take time to heal giving my wife some space.
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My latest Santa Fe loco  Athearn F3/A loco arrived  Tuesday, with a extra detail added will look like Athearn's top Trinity locos.









Two different angle pics of the set what I always wanted to have, can't wait to run them on y layout .

we are having a taste of summer this weekend be in the high 30's Sunday and Monday peaking 38 degrees be in the nice 24 degrees house working on my ship plans I am modelling.


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Howdy Tony, sorry to say, I haven't kept up with your work so I am sad to hear about your heartaches. God bless you and yours. Keep the faith and keep up with your hobby, I had great losses from time to time and my model trains tended to keep me on a stable plane.
I have always loved Athearn locos, they are still tops with me and my ops buddies. With a bit of "detail", they can sit side by side with anyone's expensive RTR units and they run as well if not better than most.
Take care, I will look in from time to time.

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Hi Woodie:wave:, many thanks for the kind words, sure was so sudden, we still can't believe what has happened, hasn't hit my wife as yet it will they say in time.

Yes have to agree what you said, the hobby kept me going, back into it today painted two modules ready to lay track. I have decided to on the module track join instead of soldering those computer circuit brass plated strips to the track and cutting the track I have decided to  cut track to size and all track on the module join be the same size and in time change all the front modules.  

I will still solder feeder wires to the track and join the to the bus wires when plugging  up to the next module will speedup  the track nailing process, a couple of tracks didn't line up, this way wont have to worry.

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Has being a while since I have being on, Monday the 9th being a month since my son passed away so sudden, I sure miss him trying to move on is pretty hard.

My wife said I had to cut the railway back so I did 8 feet and o gain some length and height to the back of the layout to the bridge is a spiral, new spiral is born and worked out well with the entrance onto the bridge, bridge still be 18 inches high for the clearance of my Ro, Ro ship.





The front corner module  northern end of the layout will have to be redesigned and I hope I have the length to gain 6 inches, needing  24 feet .



Close up of the spiral I will have to get a piece of off cut ply long enough for the  fly over , be a curved point., lots of work ahead with the changes to make the lady happy.
A bit of an issue with this pic I couldn't get the curse to to  show up at the bottom of the pic, gave up.

After the 6 ft piece of ply is where the main bridge pier will be and main span 14 ft, also can open up to some scenery with a tunnel and hill in the middle of the spiral a bit like  Tehachapi loop. I will still have a double deck bridge and the road can move off to the right with a cutting and part of the hill.

After I finish my Brothers 70th birthday present, sadly no turning , I had trouble with cutting a 4 inch square piece of wood, had to come up with plan B, needing wood working skills. Be back into the layout construction building the new southern end front corner module, you will see at the bottom right had side of the pic  a module with single track on it I will use the top of that module and the sides of the module under the ply .

I have started work on the Ro, Ro ship cutting out the top deck with bow and stern, the stern has a lower level, haven't got that far and still having issues working out the height of the hull, once sorted out I will start on the hull., ship is 2.150 meters long and 305 mm's wide in 87 scale,

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Looking forward to photos of your Ro Ro ship, the
Great Lakes freighter I have is close to S scale is just over 1 meter in length, downside it is Radio Control and weighs a Ton!. Built by a friend of mine years ago. Looks good under power, but need to build a cart to move it, getting to be a back breaker to move.
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Evening Ken, yeah the ship I am modelling is quite huge in size,stern be easy to model not so the bow, I could use her as a container ship as well as trailers.

I may have to use some wood to brace the hull see how I go, here is a pic of the cut out top deck with bow and stern, stern is in two levels haven't got that far yet, till I work out the height of the hull, I divided 87 scale to the length and width of the ship.

Remote control ships you probably have to have some weight  to stablize her in the water
The module is 6 feet in length, give you an idea of her size, awesome project, do I start a new thread.



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Here is a good pic of the ship I am modelling give you an idea how big she is especially the width

Finn Lines are actually are going through a rebuild i=of this ship making her much longer, must be cheaper to go this way to building a whole new class of ship.
DFDS Tor lines have the same class ship, could be a few changes to the design f the ship 

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Here is a pic of the stern of the ship be easy to model but having some trouble in working out the height of the hull

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I would use a model of the tractor for height and compare with the side of the ship for height. Interesting seeing rolls of pulp, years ago I worked in a pulp mill handling rolls for shipment overseas.
Don't overlook the height difference between the Finnbreaze and the Finnsea as far as loading depth the Finnsea riding higher as it is being unloaded.

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Hi Ken, it looks to me the height of the stern opening is two prime mover heights, interesting trailer load the those pulp rolls, I am only modelling the ship to the water line so it can fit under the bridge.


Here is another  pic of a tram for a trailer load, looks like those trailers are specially made for those Ro, Ro ships., being lower, I might be able to start working out the height of the main deck now, which is the hold up.



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I am finely back into the layout construction and started modifying the new car port end front corner module, recycling the top of the third car port module and using the sides of the second module.

Have marked out where the points and cross over will go to the cut down track plan and finely using the short 6 inch cross over, would of had to buy two more points and a large diamond cross over, using what I have in points which are right hand points.

Am thinking of a new idea in making it easier to join up the modules without using bolts, some are hard to get to, got to get down on my knees, trying to do away with doing that.

Hopefully tomorrow be as good as today was, hard an appointment to go to  stuffs up the whole day.
The model ship is coming along nicely drew up the side plan of the stern end of the ship, some hotter days coming up, start marking out and cutting the stern end of the hull.
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Hi Ken, thanks, I rebuilt the corner front module yesterday, still have to screw the two end s on, was difficult indeed to get a good module join with not a square end, one side has a slight gap to fill.

Ha, ha  great pic be the opposite having a heat wave:P.
The mornings are nice cool breeze wont still like that for long peaking 34 degrees today.

I have finely worked out the  the height if the second deck from the main deck, have drawn up a side plan, need to sort out the height from the second deck to the top deck, Will have to go by the European standard size container height like the Hanburg Sud and China Shipping containers not as high as the US container.
Here is a pic of the old last module car port end the new corner module be replacing,I had to cut the layout back 8 feet, using the sides of the module will fit back in the same place and spiral off the inside end of the module like a jig saw is how I manage to have large radius curves.
How is your layout and Great lakes freighter ship going Ken.
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A cool? -24 degrees today, may make to my local pub, but not much more today ( Canadian on special ) working on cargo booms for the freighter, short on block and tackle for the 8 of them. LHS out of stock.
Not much layout work, trying to complete 1/2 dozen assorted pieces of rolling stock, in various stages of
construction at the moment 1 boxcar ( Peru), 3 tank cars
( from Peru, Brazil and Burma)and my Rotary Snow Plow from ( Canada).

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Hi Tony,
Standard highway clearance for road vehicles in Australia is 5 metres. So for a standard semi-trailer the back door opening needs to be at least 5 metre "plus a bit" (estimate 1 metre) for when the loading ramp steps down from the wharf to the ship deck. From your photo I'd suggest 500mm to 1 metre deep supporting deck beams, given how far the light fittings are up between these beams. Adding all this together should give you about 7 to 8 metres between the deck surfaces inside the hull.

I'm not sure how close this goes to what you have worked out,

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Hi John:wave:, here is a pic of the ship I am modelling, with the stern doors on the wharf on an angle.

You will clearly see the top floor framing you are talking about, my first drawing attempt was measurements between the decks but no framing given, I have to change the plan  to the right height, only going by a PDF side plan and lots of pics.
The main deck to the upper deck I worked the height out to be double the height of a Semi trailer, going to be an interesting build, one day lash out and buy the ship plans from another bloke said he had of my ship.
This ship is going through an lengthening program cutting the hull mid ship and adding a 30 meter section, she is is huge measuring 2.150 meters in 1/87 scale.
Warming up down there.
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H John, here is a pic of the side drawing plans of the ship to 1/87 scale, have to build her in four sections.

Going back to the last post the stern door rams how big do think they are in thickness.
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Hi Ken, a warm 30 degrees today, was actually hotter in Brisbane today, noticed the difference when we arrived home, dropped into my later Uncles house and cousins were there tiding up to put the house on the market, saw his house for the last time.

Went there to pick up the last of my Uncles train stuff, on a high, 7 full lengths of Peco flexi track 15 peco points and a long diamond crossing come in handy for my layout plus a lot of building kits.

would love to see some pics of the progress of your freighter., some times you have to come down to scratch building the parks, I will have to do the same because of her scale size.

Look forward to see some pics, good to keep busy with projects, how much is the glasses of beer in Canada, for a large glass $15 here, glad I don"t go to the pub much.
Tony

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Warmed up to balmy -23 today, may be +1 by Saturday?.
A Pint of beer is either $5:75 or $6:75, depending whether it is Happy Hour price or not. I can understand not going to a pub, to often at that price.

Will need to find a place so I can get my freighter off the shelf and take a photo or two, as I've mentioned it weigh's a fair bit, just over 25 Pound's with batteries
installed, not something I want to pack around to much.

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Morning Ken, we had a low 30 degrees today and storms rolled in the afternoon, rain all week, I hope to con my wife into letting me buy a full sheet of 12mm ply and have it cut to different sizes. That is half the price to our glasses of beer.
I found out that the off cut I was using  for the new front corner module top wasn't square at one end, the only way to fix it is a new piece, my local Hard Wear store has a special saw for cutting ply sheets.
Be looking forward to seeing your freighter when you get a chance to get the ship off the shelf, would have to be a good shelf to hold the weight of the ship.
Bought a new iPhone 8 Plus Monday, has a double camera lens, the video side is 4k  we feed  wild parrots will test the video tomorrow.  

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Hi Tony,
The cylinders look about twice the diameter of the rams. From what I've seen of hydraulics in the steel industry I'd suggest probably 4" to 6" maximum diameter for the rams and about 12" diameter for the cylinders.

In scale dimensions - say 1 to 1.5 mm diameter styrene round for the rams and perhaps 2 to 3 mm diameter styrene round for the rams. These dimensions are approximate and near enough should be good enough.

That should give you something that should look the part.

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Morning John, many thanks for those measurements on the rams will be able to work the ends of the stern of the ship now, once I start building will start a new post, I like to being in other hobbies to the layout as a side line,like the Boeing 737 fuselages for a train load.

QLD state election on , I am busy helping the MP in our seat, easy job going out and about this afternoon driving her ute and trailer around her Electorate with a friend.

Not much work on the layout, should do a  very nice 26 degrees today and all week with rain,I hope to buy a 12 mm sheet of ply get it cut to size at Bunning tomorrow.
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HI all slowly getting back into the layout construction, I am working on the northern end front corner module,, a new module,  had some trouble with the module sides were from the other module and had a big gap easy fix. Have to do the same the other end as I discovered the ply end wasn't cut square out by 1.5 mm's easy fix again , that can wait till next week  Saturday is Queensland voting day I be at the polling booth all day 13 hours and party afterwards.

I may never be able to complete my layout dream now, so completing what I have, only be half the station complex and have cut the layout back 8 feet shifted the spiral to beside the car port, we may have to down size in the near future, so long as I get a couple of years running trains I be happy .

It is amazing what you can do with wood if you make a mistake, it was with the end of the module not square, this is how I was able to have larger curves come together like a jigsaw puzzle.

Once I have finished this module will work on the spiral, all the spiral decking is already cut and I have a special jig for the level to mark the legs and cut them every 42 mm'squarter inch a foot, spiral length is 24 feet to 6 inches in height to the bridge.
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HI all slowly getting back into the layout construction, I am working on the northern end front corner module,, a new module,  had some trouble with the module sides were from the other module and had a big gap easy fix. Have to do the same the other end as I discovered the ply end wasn't cut square out by 1.5 mm's easy fix again , that can wait till next week  Saturday is Queensland voting day I be at the polling booth all day 13 hours and party afterwards.

I may never be able to complete my layout dream now, so completing what I have, only be half the station complex and have cut the layout back 8 feet shifted the spiral to beside the car port, we may have to down size in the near future, so long as I get a couple of years running trains I be happy .

It is amazing what you can do with wood if you make a mistake, it was with the end of the module not square, this is how I was able to have larger curves come together like a jigsaw puzzle.

Once I have finished this module will work on the spiral, all the spiral decking is already cut and I have a special jig for the level to mark the legs and cut them every 42 mm'squarter inch a foot, spiral length is 24 feet to 6 inches in height to the bridge.
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Here is the pic of the other side on the module, I plan to cut 11 mm's off to square the end up and  instead of the module end under the ply top it will be 12 mm's higher.

I will turn the module over and take a pic of the other end tomorrow.

This way I don't waste the ply top, already wasted one piece, I need to buy two more sheets of full 12 mm ply will get them next week, to finish off the other end of the layout and bridge.

The other end of the layout will have a ramp up to the bridge, over 30 feet in length.

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I should of put this pic 002, instead of 003 , looking at pic two I cut off about 9 mm's to fix the gap and cut the module end 12 mm's longer have done that before on other modules in the past.

Just have to pain the end won't see it is close to the retaining wall of the garden.

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With the changes I be cutting off the track extension on the first station module and the piece on the front southern end corner module.

To make one separate lift out bridge section, will make it also easier to plug the bus wires up to the bus wire plugs each end, I am also looking at modelling a different station building or modify Sydney Central by cutting the width of the building, not needing the 6 station modules, aiming up just having what I have already to run trains earlier.
With the passing away of my son in early September and the QLD state election in November voting day on Saturday, busy day for me at the polling booth, rest day today.Back into the layout construction next week till it gets too hot to work under the pergola, stating to warm up, luckily I have a marquee, to stay dry and out of the sun, a few showers predicted and 30 degrees.
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The last pic showing the small piece I be cutting away, got to make it ease to set up to modules and plug up the bus wires, us modules never make up our minds:P 

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Tony,

how big is your layout now?  From all the construction you must have a mile of track down by now!

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Hi James, it has being a while, I said to my wife to make her happy by cutting the layout back 8 ft but not really is actually 6 feet, I don't think I will venture back into the car port, at the side of the car port now where the spiral is.

I may venture down the southern end side of the house where there is a four foot wide path way adding on an extra 30 feet to the width of the layout, with a single line with concrete arch bridge, modeled on the North Fork bridge  built by WP on the Feather river California .

It would be nice if I could go  back into the car port, the track be a single track and the double deck bridge become double track passing loop, the layout is now 46 feet in length when built.

A couple of upsets that put the planning of the layout back a couple of months, be glad to get back into the construction of the modules, fixing up the front corner module first, was also glad to see the end of the Queensland state elections finish yesterday as well, which was a full on day at the polling booth I was at. The QLD Labor party is set to re-govern for another 3 years, seats still being countered, needs 47 seats to form government, 12 seats undecided tipped to pick up four, the other my son passing away in September.

Rain all week, will keep the temp down, make the most of it with summer a few days away, gets too hot under the pergola to work, plenty to do on projects in the hobby room.

How is your layout going James.

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Came across this the other day ...

... thought you might like it ...

... I do !





From 1951 so it seems.



:)



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Hi Si:wave:, add on another 20 years, that loco is a Commonwealth Railways loco colour scheme, they used the GM loco at the beginning of Indian Pacific's operation 1970 era 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Pacific

Starting to cool down in the UK, summer only a couple of days away, sadly tomorrow I have to mow the front foot path do the whipper snipping and trim a hedge, my garden tools are 36 volt battery powered and the mower doesn't like wet grass, rain all week.

Now the QLD election is out the way I can get stuck back into finishing off the front northern end corner module, needed fixing up.

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Have completed all the front modules except for the suburban extension, that wont happen till after the layout is up and running, gee being at it for over 3 years now, trains would of being running if I didn't decide to scrap the Tehachipi loop and three set backs this year.

I finished fixing the northern end corner module on Saturday even nailed down track, two points and a diamond cross over, ready to start work on the bus wiring.

Before that I have the front southern end corner and first station module to modify, be on the next post. 

You can see where I fixed the front side of the module,,m the ply top wasn't cut square that was the only way to fix it, I haven't  cut the angle on the back corner of the module yet tillI set the module up and the same with the spiral, depend on the weather and time

Don't think I will be able to make a start on the spiral going away for Christmas on the 18th for 10 days first holiday in 26 years.

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G'day Tony,
This is starting to look very good. Congrats on getting this track down.

As for holidays, go away and enjoy it. After 26 years you have certainly earned one. We'll still be here when you get back. :)

Best wishes to you and your wife for Christmas and the New Year.

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Hi John, many thanks for the kind words, yeah I am nearly there at leas all the track base decking is already cut, all I have to do is set the curved sections in place and use the level jig to get the spiral legs cut to the right height.

I don't know if I be starting on the spiral before Christmas, have to modify the bridge between the front corner and first station module, I should of done in the first place, with that bridge extension on the module, made it pretty heavy to pic up and move around.

Was going to do that yesterday but didn't feel too well, Tuesday job, it has being raining pretty heave  here all day , probable what you copped over the weekend in Victoria.

I will measure and cut the new replacement before  pulling up the track and wiring and cutting flush the two extensions, it would of being hard also to plug up the bus wires, not a good design at all, plugs be at the end of both modules up in under the bridge.

I have decided to get rid of my wood lather not using it much now, donated it to the Ipswich men's shed and tools I used to do the turning, now have space in the garden shed to store the modules. Wife was cracking off about the modules I had outside while working on the layout, had to make her happy, wasn't planning to leave any outside while we where away any way, looks a lot more open now, plus we are having trouble with snakes, are there snakes in England.

Good news on the ship modelling I finely got sent the ship plans of the Ro, RO ship I am modelling waiting for my brother in law to print out the ship line drawing didn't know how to use DWG format, excited, no more need to guess, amazing what you get when you ask nicely.

More pics tomorrow after I build the new bridge, need to buy more under coat.
Yeah we sure are looking forward to our holiday my mum said she books a good room that has full view of the ocean on the forth floor, another weeks holiday being offed to us for next March down the Gold Coast for a week have taken that up as well.

Best wishes to you and your family for Christmas and New Year 2018 too John

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Merry Christmas to everyone on the forum:wave:, we have being on a long waiting holiday for 10 days at Caloundra Sunshine Coast QLD, it is our last day and night, well deserved rest,especially my wife, after being our sons main carer, I did what I could to help,

The last holiday was Easter 1990' Thursday we went for a drive, couldn't find the house knew the street and beach not far from where we are staying here.

Where the is , a perfect view of the shipping lane to the Port Of Brisbane, just missed a container ship and forgot the digital SLR camera has a huge zoom lens 1440mm's, will have to wait when we come back in August this time, too hot in summer.

Got some great pics form my new iPhone 8 plus phone camera 10x zoom of cruse ships four large container ships and different other ships.

The week before we went away I managed to finish the lift out bridge between the front corner and station module, completed the wiring, put the test light all that work in soldering in the feeder wires, wiring up the plugs. Next step was put on a loco, bingo she ran over the bridge will success and back, on a big high, next weekend I will set all the front modules and enough room for a 3 car DMU set so it can run onto the by-pass loop each end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idqk2UzcDo0


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Sounds like the wife and you had a good break for XMAS,
good to see something up and running, could not try that outside here, presently -29C, lubrication would solidify within minutes :bang::bang:.

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Morning Ken, be free to send me some cold weather my way, it was a stinker here Christmas day where we were and glad we went in Ipswich, had 37 degrees, we didn't go out of the unit till late afternoon.

Many thanks we sure did have a great well needed break, we are home now, didn't think much of the bed get a good nights sleep in our own  bed.

What do you reckon, I have plans to build a separate draft hull so I can screw the water line model onto the draft, my model between the main deck and water line is 14 mm's  thinking of building the draft up to 12mm's should work.

Tomorrow I will print out the end view of the hull and draw up the plan to show you, saves building a second model.

Good feeling to see something working on two modules , i will depend on the weather this week if I can set up all the front modules, they say we  are going to cop some bad storm the next few days and rain, mightn't get much done outside, trouble with summer.

How was your Christmas, did you have a white Christmas, one day I like to experience  a white Christmas.

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Tony:

I keep forgetting. The seasons are swapped.   We had 37 degrees here in Washington State on Christmas Day, too.  But it was Fahrenheit, not Celsius.  

In fact, we had a white Christmas.  Very rare for the Puget Sound area.  

It sure is nice to see some equipment running.  

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Hi Reg, yeah, we be in bi trouble if we copped the weather on the east coast of America, when it goes to minus 10 F it is 10 C.

What were you today , we coped 37 degrees C, I have a friend that lives close to Washington State , in Oregon, they normally go to the mountains but he said too much snow, going to Seattle for Christmas.

Yeah nice feeling to get something running even though it is only two modules, days are supposed to be cooler next week and rain, want to set up all the modules.

I am recycling my son's computer table, we bought a lower table, making adjustable saw horses so it be easier to set up two modules together with out having to use timber blocks to level the two modules, pic to follow.

What scale are you modelling Reg, I will have a look on Google Earth where you are, be a nice place.

Happy new year Reg and the rest of the forum .

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Would gladly send you some cold weather, currently -28C, with a wind chill of -39C, Forecast is for 0C by Tuesday the 2nd. Had a White Xmas, although way to cold, just thank full I am retired and do not have to work in that kind of weather any more, other then dig my truck (Ute) out. Running out of places to pile the snow!!.

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Hi Ken, yes please, I don't know what is worse heat or cold, I hate to think going by them  on the east coast of America and Canada, having to have all that warm clothing weigh a bit and having to work  in them as well.

Our coldest winter dropped down to -8 and yard had that white tinge to it, heavy frost. we would have to go to Standthorpe and  Warwick to see snow in QLD, now we e able t go to war wick being the closest for a weekend when it is has the conditions to snow.

Here is a pic of what is left of my sons computer table, after new year is supposed to be cooler finish off the saw horses, this way I could blot up three modules.


What is like like when the snow starts to melt is it messy .

I forgot the pic.
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Snow melt depends on how quick it may happen, if spread over 2-3 days not much off a problem, however I have experienced a temperature change of 50C in 2-3 Hrs ( -35C to +15+C ) if a "Chinook Wind" or as the natives call it a "Snow Eater" blow's in.

Currently -27C, wind chill -37C, looking forward to next week, believe me!!.

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Happy new year Ken, have a great night. It is good the snow takes awhile to melt I thought it would cause issue with dirt roads.

Our last winter,we had a cold day only got as high is 18 degrees c but with the wind made it much colder down to 12 degrees, we stayed indoors that day.

I am tossing if I redraw my ships stern side plan again forgot to add 12 mm's for the top deck framing, the next three plan sections wont line up, won't take long as all the calculations have being done except the extra 12 mm.

Nothing worse in finding the  mistake after building the hull, easy to fix an error on paper.

Hope 2018 be a better year than 2017 , still not the same.

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Far better idea to correct it on paper, then get caught
when building, I've had that happen. I can enjoy Winters that the coldest it's get's is 12C. Don't worry to much about dirt roads, the pot holes in the pavement here are bad enough, will get worse as the frost comes out of the ground!


At least today it reached -9C, first time in 2 weeks it has got warmer then -24C. Should be on the plus side tomorrow.

Need to finish packing away my XMAS layout and equipment, get my work table cleared and complete a couple of project's. Need to finish a Rotary Snow Plow, and a Boxcar,
then move on to a couple more, maybe even start a new layout.

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Hi Ken, how was new year see it in, we didn't, my wife woke up midnight and heard fireworks in the distance,if the people get caught cop a heavy fine 

I decided to make a start on drawing up the bow of the ship, actually I wasn't far off with guessing, bow floor plan .

Year will have redraw the stern forgetting the upper deck floor framing, 13 mm's, has happened to me too.

Wow will the snow plow actually work, I like seeing them in action a model even better, 
that is a degree colder to what we dropped down to last winter, where are you on the forum haven't come across your post.

Forgot to ask you with the snow on the roof of houses is there any problems weight wise.
I have being   looking for a replacement station complex  for my layout since I wont be modelling Sydney Central, came across a modeler in MR's  Great Model railroad 2013,his station is modeled on New Orleans Union Passenger Station.

Blokes layout is called Mississippi, Alabama and Gulf, be nice if the bloke is a member of this forum, and the layout is still running by Cliff Powers.
I will still have a lower street level for a bus terminal and side car park and yes New Orleans has a tram terminus mine be in the front like Sydney and difference a through station and third freight line.

Will probable never complete Sydney central, with the added cost of the more modules track points and wiring, do with what I have already and complete this layout.
It is still sticky here, had a storm with heavy  rain, one yesterday and again tomorrow, wont need to water the garden and grass.

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Pretty quiet New Year, watched a movie.

Hopefully I can get the blade to operate, one of those hindsight thing's should have installed the drive before
adding the body:bang:. Not likly I will try to plow snow though!!

I've only had 1 experience with clearing snow of a roof.
A friend, who had overseen the construction of a replica
construction of a the station building in Sandon BC.
He asked me if I would clear the eves off as they were starting to bow due to snow load, so I went up from his house at 1700FT with no snow to Sandon at 3500Ft. The packed snow was just over 4 Ft in height. The weather was pleasant though,took 3 days but I got carried away and cleared the whole roof, figured there was close to 35 ton's of snow, most would slide off as it was popped loose. By the time I finished I could step off the roof to onto the piled snow.

As far as here in Calgary the snow is slowly melting, should hit +5C later today, currently at-9C.

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Late evening Ken, Ipswich council fire works was canceled to bad storms, getting quite every year now, perhaps everyone from Ipswich is going in to see Brisbane's fire works.

Looks like the roofs frame work has to be pretty strong to handle the  weight, I thought snow was very light.

It is the silly month fro TV showing over here at the moment, all the reality shows are coming back on end of January, I am getting ready bought the first series and series 2 ofDavid Attenborough's Planet Earth, his Blue Planet 11 is coming on TV as well, like doco's.

It is warming up pretty quick over there , see what you mean, looking forward to next week, it won't start cooling down mid March here.
Gee house is pretty high, is it a two story, did you walk off the roof onto the piled up snow , was  there that much.
Well under way in drawing the bow of the ship, haven't done any drawing today, after tea I will be cutting back a vine and replanting it into a pot, not bad for 37 yeas old, give and take.
Bought some bolts to make my adjustable saw horses want to get them finished, recycled timber from my son's computer table, have to do some wiring on a station module that hasn't got bus wires yet, the one that feed out to the main control panel.


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The building was a single story structure, where it is located has mountain ranges around it, roughly 7500 to 8000 ft in height, the sun cannot get there for about 4&1/2 months of the year. The snow is wet and heavy when it comes down in this area.

3 or 4 years ago Calgary got hit with a freak storm in September, again wet and heavy snow, broke branchs on between 3 & 4000 trees, quite a mess when I got back into town. Pleasent +6C today, more snow melting off, cooling down again next week.

Hope to pickup some plywood today and get started on yet another layout!, last layout I could run 25 car trains, but did not leave much room for scenery which I enjoy, so back to square one.

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Afternoon Ken, yeah just checked up your time zone, be about 3pm  yout time, only 8 hour days, does i it get any shorter that that.

Has the weather too , -4 C Sunday, snow in September, with that freak storm, what are the summer months like.

Must be pure awesome  to see the trees on the mountains.

I be looking forward to see what you be modelling on your new layout, that is all I have on other layouts as well is just track ans station platforms. Last layout was continuous running two levels,stat at one platform and end up on another, then I discovered garden railway.

How is your  lake freighter going, I have being busy in the drafting department upscaling to 1/87 scale from the plan the last couple of days, getting close to actually building the model starting on the bow, ship is in 4 sections joining them together.

We  are coping a heat wave this week, days have being 33 degrees C and humid tomorrow 35 C  up higher Tuesday, be like this all week no work outside, late afternoon is good but site humid, good time to work on projects inside.

When I start building the ship will start a new thread, building a water line model first,second model will have a full hull for radio control , model ships being my new side line hobby, replacing woodturning,don't have the wood lather anymore.

Forgot to add the plan is on two A/3 size paper joined together, the length of the plan is 537.5 mm's by 4 to 2.150 metres huge ship., be an awesome site in the water.

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A balmy? -22C, with a wind chill dropping it to -33C, not likly to be out today for very long. The NGDU magazine arrived yesterday so I can stay in and read it.

Busy with bench work, had to take a step back, needed a bit more width to fit in a turntable and a switchback to serve a mine.

Will try later today to take a few photos of my freighter and if I can remember how to load to photos I will post on.
Plan to get it in the water, later this year and see how it performs with radio control again. may need a few adjustments.

Plans for your ship a coming along nicely, have a friend who is also into modelling railway car ferries, he is already
looking at a third ferry, not sure he will get any of them finished.

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Afternoon Ken, ouch -22c I wouldn't be going outside either, think of us on my side of the world, going to be a stinke of a hot weekend, 35c degrees today 38C+ over the weekend and storms for the next three days cloud cover is rolling in humid day as well.

Lots to do inside, working on my ship plans starting on the next section after the bow section , then I will be able to start construction of the ship.

Layout is at a stand still, cool change coming in Monday 29c degrees be finishing of the new adjustable saw horses using the timber from my sons old computer deck 19mm pine timber, if they work out well will build two more replacing the saw horses, sick of tired of finding pieces of ply and old layout legs to level the modules

Since we are not moving any time soon, thinking we would have down size from the house,I am not going to cut back the layout  back at all staying at the magic 54   feet in length, width is about 23 feet, I am short a couple of curved section deck, will buy a couple  of sheets of 12mm ply not till mid March to complete the layout , saving up  spending money for another weeks holiday down the Gold Coast early March, won't be as hot.

I nearly forgot how to load the pics on as well, remembered how to do it, I use a second tab to copy pics from my gallery onto the post.
Can't wait to see your freighters pics and of course progress of your new layout, I too should of gone for a smaller layout, the problem is I love long trains, longer the better.

Do you know what country he is modelling the car ferries from, my first build is test build before starting on a complete model.

I have being busy coping all my pic folders onto my sons computer so I can use it in stead of the lap top, still need the lap top to resize pics, the program in in the lap top,still need to copy my links over some are in big folders.

Thanks Ken, what is the weather like now Ken starting to warm up.

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Should be +/- 0C by Saturday.
Of the 3 ships he is looking at.

The first is a converted LST, with 3 tracks, which operated between Vancouver and Vancouver Island. He is currently working on this model.

The second is a good size double deck 6 tracks on each deck which operated between Canada and the US across Lake Ontario. IF! he builds this one, with the approach trackage and ship, that would take up his layout space.

The third one I got him hooked on is the MANCO CAPAC, which operated on Lake Titicaca in Peru, he has found a video on it, which he will let me borrow to watch. It was a dual gauge 3 track ferry.

I will restrict my ship building to a tug, I have an O scale tug, which needs to be modified to better fit as a lake tug.

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Early morning Ken, heaps better than what you were copping well below minus, we had the hottest day in years peaked 43 degrees in the sun and 40 in under the pergola, it hit when you walked out the door, got back in as quick as possible, warm night as well 26 degrees and same again tomorrow.

Wow I thought of modelling a train ferry what one, like your friend got hooked on the Ro Ro ship I am modelling mainly because she can take containers as well.

What scale is he modelling, if I am thinking of the ship you said lake Ontario say a ship like it f a blokes layout modelled on the great lakes, will do some research.

I am now ready to start building the ship , pics to follow,see how much cardboard I have, the two front sections be the hardest to build with the shape of the bow, first model is a test bed .

Once I do start, going to send the the guy some progress pics  I got the plans from to remind him send me more ship drawing and ask him on the full height of the ship only have the hull height.

What happened to your freighter ,  0 scale tug is she a pusher tug or one that ties up on the side of a barge.

Hate this time of the year, can't work outside for long, shirt is wet with sweat, start early till it gets too hot and late afternoon, stays daylight till around 7pm in summer,  can't do make any noise after that time, only wiring .

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Way! to hot for me, I can at least dress for the COLD!.
Warming up for a week or so, can start wearing lighter cloth's.

He models in HO, getting to old for modelling in HO.

My tug, which started life as as "LIONEL" East Coast US tug, is getting modified to closer resemble the Canadian Pacific lake tug Granthall. Built in 1928, operated on Kootenay Lake in BC. Don't plan to lengthen it, but need to cut back the cabin section square the Port holes and start to re add bit's and pieces closer to the Granthall. Have a cut away drawing of the Tug Master which is one of the last steam tug's on the West Coast of Canada, so I may take a crack at modelling the Triple Expansion Engine room, that can be viewed through the skylight windows.

When towing the tug would either tie up along side or with two barges, the bow's of the barges would be tied together and the tug would push between the two up the lake.

Out to enjoy the mild weather while it lasts.

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Afternoon Ken, the only problem dressing up for the cold, how could you work in all that, be hard to do any heavy work.

The same again today, didn't get out of bed till 7.30am opened the door could feel the heat hit your face, too hot to have a morning coffee 32 degrees in the sun 30 in under the pergola, aircon is now on.
Steam tug, Brisbane still has a work steam tug, at the ship museum, ill get some info for you and pics, nice to have a cutout drawing of what you want to model saves having to guess, look forward to see some pics.

Is there any chance of getting some pics of your mates ships, HO scale will be quite large like my ship, starting the construction today, may start a new post, the ship be finished by the time the layout is up and running mid year. Won't  be able to get stuck into the layout till mid March.

Does anyone know any thing about lap tops, I found out just before my son passed away when he was going through the lap top and discovered the the HD was split only has a Solid State 256, C drive no more space where the windows is can't do any more updates.The question is can the partition be taken out or cheapest option is can you change the updates to go into the other side.

May not be able to upgrade to a much bigger drive,  I have cleaned out the pics in that drive and will do the same for the second drive and use my sons computer is what I plan to do. 

Does Canada play cricket, what is their main sport.
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 I try to forget what is was like, working outside at -30C to -40C for 10-11 Hrs on a 12 Hr shift, liked the Winters when you could work in the middle of Fed, with not much more thena Light shirt at night. Should meet up with Ross on Thursday at the ROMEO (Retired Old Men Eating Out) lunch,will ask him about photo's of his ships, perhap's talk him into joining FREERAIL?.

 My crew after a long, cold winter, night shift!
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Hi Ken, I don't know what the time is in GWN I am on my sons computer, is now  my computer be using it a lot more than the Laptop, if I don't use it may lose it.

What sort of work did you do to be working night shift.

Good if you can ask your friend to join Free Rails, like to see pics of his layout and model ships 

I recycled my sons old computer table, couldn't give it away or cut up to through out, I came up this idea, his table has a new least of  life and saving money buying two more saw horses and more timber, I got fed up before looking for pieces of timber to level up the two modules so I can bolt them together, was using a painters trestle and wasn't the same height, problem solved  

The first two pics the height difference isn't too bad, an adjustment of the bolts and bingo levelled 





The next pic I actually made a bar clamp and it worked , will make a second one, came in handy holding the bottom shelf together when screwing in the screws.




Last pic a close up of the bolts, stick the drill on with the screwdriver bit and away it goes, how easy is that 





To my surprise it worked on win 7 loading the pics the same way as win 10,.
I had heaps of trouble with my laptop was running out of space fast, problem was the Hard drive had a partition in it and was only a solid state 256 G's, no space in C drive.Had to end up taking it to ASUS in Brisbane and they made the drive to one full drive, all that work from my wife loading every think back on except win 10 do that another day 

Now a  big shock, I decided to do the unthinkable and redesign my layout, since I am not modelling Sydney Central station anymore I swapped the station complex to the back of the house in out of the weather probable a good move and the bridge is in the front of the pergola, also better room for the ship. the only problem is there is a pergola post in the way will have to modify a module for it to fit in that spot, back again with the length 54 feet by 22 feet wide and into the car port as well.

Too hot to work outside at the moment in between working on the ship project be working on the new track plan be pure awesome and now space for a staging yard and work shops.

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After spending 3 years working in a pulp mill on the North West Coast of British Columbia, I went to work for Shell Canada and spent 31 years working in a gas processing plant just West of Calgary. Retired in 2001. Treated myself to a 2 week train tour of Peru.

Canada national sport is Lacross where people tend to hit each other with sticks and hard balls, sport most followed is Hockey, played on Ice, where people tend to hit each other with sticks and a hard puck!.

Having been through Sydney Central more then a few times, I myself would not have wanted to tackle it. New supports look good, should be a lengthy run for your trains, even with a 5 Meter by 4 Meter room I always seem to run out of space when trying to layout a track plan. Try to get to large of radius trackage in and the space gets cramped.

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  Trying to load a few photos of my Great Lake's Freighter "SS Blackie" named after my Dad.

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3rd photo, Stern looking Forward, need to get some weathering done on it, and finish theloading booms and rigging for them. Finally picked up the correct blocks for rigging.

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That looks really good.

Is that a carved hull or planked?

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The friend of mine who built the model used anything he could get cheap, free or make himself. The only purchased item's was the Radio Control, and drive set up. I really should build a cart to get it to water, I'm getting on in years and it! seems to be putting on weight?.

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Morning Ken, nice freighter indeed do you put her in the water much, nice calling the ship after your dad. I called my layout after my son my wife's first initial and mine ending with two letters of our name, coming up with Camdale.
It was cooler in the morning so got out the second module that bolts up with the car port end approach module, now being shifted to the back of the pergola be more protected from the weather.

Those stand are adjustable for levelling two modules so it is easier nailing down track and cutting track on the module join, saving getting a sore back and knees, wiring as well, the only time  I will have to get down on my knees is when I  plug up the bus wires and tighten the wing nuts, than will change.  .

No work on the ship, laptop issues, be using the desk top computer more now, wont get back to the ship till Tuesday same with the layout, working on the layout till it gets too hot under the pergola.

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Here is another pic of the two modules from a different angle.

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One more pic of the two modules bolted together, I have already shifted the track over and shifting points, another pic tomorrow of the track on the second module which is the end of the station platforms .

I designed the first platform to fit 18 passenger cars of the Indian Pacific, now days GSR don't use platform now, they split the Indian Pacific into two platforms 2 and 3, GSR are the owners, ( Great Southern Railway) and only one train a week now consists 28 passenger cars, I have enough car to make up the the train .

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If I can get parked close enough to the water, I plan to get some time this year with it in the water. Most RC boat modellers here tend to build Hi Speed models. With the Blackie I can let my sister's grand kids have a go with it, with no concerns. It looks good plowing through the water!.

Temp here running between -5C and +5C, I can enjoy this kind of winter, no Snow for a couple of weeks.

On my last layout, I did manage to operate a 26 car coal train, all! have now been shortened to ore cars, much perfer mine/mill modelling. Looking forward to seeing your Indian Pacific train in operation.

Bench work looking good.

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I think, as modeler, we have a tendency to want to honor those who have impacted our lives.

My layout (and the one before) is named in honor of my long time friend, John Henderson.  

I first met John in the 1970's on a crazy railfan trip to chase the Chehalis & Western.  We became instant friends and have shared many great adventures, most involving railfan activities.

Some of those adventures included an extended trip into British Columbia, the Yukon and Alaska, another winter trip to Vancouver Island, kind of a silly outing to "chase" cranberry bog "railroads", and many excursions to what is now my home town to chase the Simpson Timber Company railroad. 

There are fond memories of John's red Ford van (The Big Muddy) and lunches of garlic laden sausage sandwiches,  with plenty of onions, beside the tracks of many railroads, large and small.  
John stood by me during a very difficult time in my life when it seemed everyone else beat feet.  When life got better he served as the best man at my wedding.  

He was very much my "big brother from another mother".   

He passed away in 2007.  I haven't taken a railfan trip since.

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Hi Ken that is slightly warmer for you no snow does it have to right condition to snow.
WOW 26 coal car train are the wagons quite long, my longest  freight train once I have made up the other five spine car set is 20 spine cars be pretty long with three locos, the first 10 Walters spine cars are quite heavy.

I like the slower model boats, still haven't made a start on my model, being having trouble with the lap top, has to go back to ASUS again tomorrow, long story.

Changed some points around today and shifted the diamond cross over down a few inches, the way I had the points would of being a headache with the bus wiring, pics tomorrow, the resizing software is on the other computer, will leave it on it.

That is my issue as well, even though there is a fresh water lake close by the council only let model sailing boats  in the lake, there is another lake a few suburbs away I will check to see if there is a model boat club there.

Hi Reg, sad to hear about the loss of your friend, I lost a friend in 2015, he died in a Nursing home, sadly the staff forgot to let me knew he passed away I only found out ringing him on his birthday a few months later.

There is a heritage museum in Rosewood the other side of Ipswich they have a branch line they can run a steam loco and rail motor trying to con my wife if she like to come with me for a day out on a steam train.

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  More or less a before and after photo of my Coal/ore cars, the Coal car is a American Models S scale car, retrucked for 2&1/2 Foot. The Ore car is a cut down Bachmann On 2&1/2 Foot. The car bodies were 6 Inch's in length, now 4&1/2 Inch's. When running it looked like a 15 Foot long snake.
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Hi Ken,Wow  those ore cars in S scale be a site indeed, is that where you got your page in the s scale.

I got outside again today and laid down the track and two points, at this stage I may not motorise the points, only ones I will motorise is the points  where I can't get to, be using remoter control throttles walk with the train..

In the pic the two pieces of pine timber represents the pergola post to check the clearance  of the coaches passing the post, any idea on how to hide the post.

The double slip cross over is a headache to operate, I am thinking of  using Leds to show if the it is straight or curved both ends of the cross over, can't wait to run the first passenger train into the station Or the Indian Pacific leaving on here journey, be a few laps of the layout, even longer when I work on stage two of the layout  with extra single track running.


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There are a few more photos of some of my rolling stock in the "scratch building and kit bashing" section of the forum.
You may have to scroll through the section for the ones I have posted. I will be adding the ore car photos there today.

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Afternoon Ken, had a look in the scratch building tread, will have to check again later after you posted those pics.

Quite a few great ideas on that thread.

Dam hot here was going to do some work on the modules  soldering the brass strips and cutting the track on the module join, 33C degrees at 8 am in the morning in the sun humid as well.

Going to do some work on the ship, marking out and cutting the bow sections.
Haven't worked out what and where I will start a new thread on the model ship build, scratch building thread a good thread ?????

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The scratch building section, would work out best place,as to were your ship building project would work. This would keep it from your layout build.

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Early Morning Ken, thanks that what I will do put the ship build in Scratch building, what I am doing. Was hard at in in the drafting department redrawing the ship side plan, decided to built it to scale, did try to make the main deck higher, didn't work out too well sticking to the hull measurements.

Was to hot this morning to make a start on the  two modules cutting the sleeps on the module join and  soldering brass strips to the track and then cutting on the join, going to be a hot night. Will see what tomorrow is like, a few showers predicted , hopefully cooler, once I have cut the track will the modules apart and start unscrewing the the bus plug panel.

A friend gave me a great idea to hide the pergola post have a HWY over pass could have two, look into it once the module is in place, before that will have level the three station modules first.

I have drawn up the new track plan, new plan has no spirals till stage three  when I extend the layout on the Northern end to go beside the house, will have a single track concrete arch bridge modeled on the North Fork bridge Feather river California.
fingers crossed it is cool in the morning, if not will continue on the ships drawing so I can make a start on the cutting out the hull sections.

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  More the size of ship I would model. The Peruvian Navy ship "PUNO" serving as a hospital ship on Lake Titicaca .

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Morning Ken, thanks for the pics,nice ship be easy to module hull wise, single prop.

I wasn't well yesterday, didn't do anything, mainly watched the cricket, Australia won, not a white wash, so they should of being Australia day.

Out tomorrow, Monday back on the layout, rain coming in  be slightly cooler, no work on the ship drawing either.

Could you ask your friend if I am on track, I divided the length and height of the hull and beam by 87 scale is that right and let me know so as possible, many thanks.

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If you divide the length and breath measurements in ft by 7.25 that would give you the HO measurements in inches. In my case I divide by 4 for O scale.

87 inchs / 12 inchs = 7.25 ft/inch in HO

Ex 500' / 7.25 = 69 inchs
500' / 87 = 5.75 x 12 = 69 inchs
500' / 4 = 125 inchs in O scale

Weather wise, the warmest it may get for the next 2 weeks is -12C, with a bit? of snow. Have a few videos to rewatch so that should keep me out of the cold!.

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Hi Ken, thanks for the scale tool, I did that and came up with 25.7, wow that would be the length of the pergola, length of the ship is 187 meters and beam 26.5 meters.

I found a scale calculator, here it is, may be in Center Meters because I tried that in the calculator came up with the same, confused here.

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We are having hot weather all week in the mid 30's, if we don't have rain soon will start losing plants and the grass is suffering as well, just a few showers predicted.
It is raining up north, Darwin, monsoons, they say we may get rain form that hope so.

No-thing happening today with the hobbies, Monday afternoon on the layout need to solder the track down with those brass strips so I can cut the track and move the modules apart and cut out the square hole for the steel pergola post . Before that have to unscrew the bus wire plug panel and move the panel over the the other module.


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Convert the meter's to feet then divide by 7.25

187 x 3.28 / 7.25 = 84.6 inches in length
26.5 x 3.28 / 7.25 = 12 inches in breath

Easy way divide meter's by 2.2 equals inches
187 / 2.2 = 85 inches
26.5 / 2.2 = 12 inches

1 meter = 3.28ft x 12 = 39.36 inches

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As a side note, if you scroll up in the HO section to Tidewater railroad, then page 8, part way down the page is a photo of the car ferry Ross is looking at building.
A double decker which operated between the US and Mexico,
held 115 cars on the 2 decks.

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Morning Ken, yeah I tried that and works out very close to my measurements, a lot of effort to change to feet, strange thing is I use feet with the layout,modules are 6 feet long, layout, measurement in feet .

When I am working on models they are  in metric measurements, I find it easier, are you still in feet and inches like America is.

Over here you can buy a Canadian beer called Canadian Club, what is it like, I  will go to the bottle shop down the road and ask them if they have got it.
 , Be on the layout tomorrow and Tuesday, be soldering the brass strips and cutting the track, then cut the square hole for the pergola post to fit in flush, then level the station modules, cool change coming in the weekend, mid 20's hope I be right after the dental surgery on Wednesday.

Hopefully with the changes swapping the station modules around, will make it quicker to set up the rest of the layout. and soon I will have to start on the main control panel .

Will have to work out how many blocks there are, not sure if I will have a plan drawing on the  panel , using 4 way rotary switches, with three throttles, two for  the main line and other local, 4th position be center off and later if I go DCC, positions be lite up with LED's .

I forgot to comment, you are having cool weather for the next two weeks,may be some the cold has reached here

Just noticed you sent another reply will check out that thread, thanks, that be a nice build.

Tony from down under.

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HI Ken, WOW I had a look, she is huge, could be even bigger than mine and didn't thing they still built ships the carries railroad cars, can he get hold of the ship  plans, I will put in a search .
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With you building models in Metric, just divide by 87,
slightly confusing with your modules in feet and inches.

I convert metric to feet and inches for my model building,
as the majority of information and plans are based on feet and inches. I find it easier to layout and build.

Canada is on the metric system? to a degree, there will always be a lot of requirements for the use of the British system. This reminded me of when the plant I worked in was being modernized and converted to Metric units, for some reason the head instrument guy for the contractor asked me to go over the instrumentation with him, I told him we had instruments so old the serial numbers were in Roman Numerals, he laughed so hard he had tears in his eyes.

I know of Canadian Club Whiskey, never heard of Canadian Club beer I must admit, I will need to take a look for it.

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Hi Ken, yeah since all the measurements are in metric, a lot of the older train plans building  and bridge plans are in feet and inches, so I can use the scalier measurement then. Just remembered I do have a have a bridge plan in feet and inches will try it out, I had to convert the measurements to metric and them divide 87 scale a lot of mucking around .
I am glad we went metric with everything, could never be able to work out the pounds to do with weights, gallons was easy, now litres, wonder if America ever change.

Yes there is a Canadian Club Whiskey, maybe what I saw , sure they said beer in the add, next time we go shopping will go to the bottle shop and ask them. Nothing  on the layout today, went out late morning to the Hard wear shop to buy a new hose nozzle and string line to get the levels marked on the other pergola posts, too late to get all the tools out, tomorrow now, pics to follow.

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Took a look at the adds for Canadian Club Beer, quite enjoyed them. Inquired at my Pub, as to whether they had heard of it, seems to be a DU beer, with a shot of CC added. Hope to make it DU next year for the NG meet and will have to give it a try!.
Laying out a small yard, based on one I visited when in Peru, need 2 right hand #6s to finish and see if it will work or not. With only 6 railway related structures in the yard, I should be able to pull it off. Plan to replace the wye which was used with a Turntable to reduced the width.

With a single stall engine house on one side and the turntable on the far side of the yard, width could become a problem, I will need to be able to remove the scenery across the back if necessary for access.

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Hi Ken, haven't checked out the Canadian Club beer yet, next time we go to the local shopping centre.
Be looking forward to seeing some pics e or do I have to to you S scale post to see them in progress, yeah you always seam to be needing points, I have a quite a few of right hand large radius curved points than the other, was for one of my layout plan but ended up changing it.

Finely got a chance to cut the square hole for the pergola steel post  in the approach module and wow fitted in nicely in deed, no need to pull out and cut any more off and the last station module fitted up flush as well very happy, even after levelling the approach module.

Camdale has a new station name, Camdale Union station, not modelling Sydney station too much detail, be based on Sydney station building and platforms, five terminus platforms all up with three suburban through platforms.

It has being hot all week and yesterday a stinker, 40 degrees in the sun 36 under the pergola and 32  inside and the lounge room air-con had to pack up, waiting to get it fixed or replaced.And now a cool change with heavy cloud cover being raining, one good thing since I have shifted the station modules to the back of the house can work on them without them getting wet, only the section out side in the garden front of the pergola and car port end.



Pic one close up of the pergola post with the coach, enough clearance, have come up with a great idea from a friend to hide the post by having a HWY over pass will and a second one above that again .
I plan to make the wide to even it up with the other track will look good, try and link it up with the double deck road rail bridge going out in front of the  pergola.



Second pic I shifted the three way  point down taking out two other points, making it easier to solder in the feeder wires to the bus wire and working out the blocks as well.
When the passenger train is coming in on the left hand track onto the two cross overs onto the right hand track where the two coaches are, either cross back over the the left platform or right saving going through the three way point, coming back out will go through the three way point,all that fun can't wait.







Last pic showing the two cross over points is where the blocks for the two platform track begins.

I may still get the two other modules  out, nearly mid-day, need to check the height measurements be higher than 12 inches since the pavers are lower that concrete, what are pavers called in the US.

The pics came over from my gallery with win7 Chrome very easy to my post.
Haven't decided if i will have a spiral my not be needed, bought a line string level to mark the level height on the front pergola post to work out the height of the bridge..
Also make the lower rail deck wide enough for a double track in the future if I manage to extend stage three for extra single track running 

May not be able to get the trains running by May give it a go , aim for June on my birthday.

Tony from cool down under.

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In the pic is what I use to solder down the track on the module track joins, works well, but need to cut a grove in the brass coating to stop shorts in the track.

I found too as well to use a countersunk bit  rather than a drill to countersunk the hole for the screw.
The brass coated board is mainly used for making circuit boards, messy job.
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Photos of some of my models are posted in the Scratch Building and Kitbashing section of Freerails. They are built for O scale narrow gauge. Most are from South America some are from Canada and Russia, will need to find photos of the
Russian Heavy Duty Flat car, certain I posted them to Freerails.

Ore Car Conversion
Tale of two Boxcars
Rotary Snow Plow
Combination Oil/Flat Car
BUCYRUS CLASS 24 Drag line

A few others I have never got around to posting on Freerails.

Ken from the land up over!

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Early Morning Ken from the land up over, one minute it is stinking hot now it is winter weather, cold and wet 19c degrees today and tomorrow, will have to see what is is like later after brekkie still raining, still raining light rain enough to stop doing any cutting, wait till the afternoon.

I can't wait to see pics of your Drag line model they are huge, put in a search and came across a bloke modelling for a train load the big dump trucks used in open cut mining, the trucks wheels over hung the the heavy duty wagon, I saved his link had other great pics from another forum.

Got stuck after late lunch setting up the other two station modules  yesterday and last one is 12 inches high , the rest be levelled once I get to cut the legs to size, mightn't get the chance to if it keeps on raining.

There is another approach module after the last station, replacing the first front corner module  when the station modules were at the edge of the pergola paving, I still plan to model the rail over pass bridge  with the arches to break too much module top, The bus station will be on the road level as in Sydney Central and still be the same with the entrance way to the suburban platforms .

The shifting of the station modules also opens up to modelling Amtrak's Auto train Lorton station and the station in Florida, I have got 9 super liner coaches need 7 more to to make up 16. Ouch there is 23 auto wagon car carriers, can't get the right ones in HO scale can in N scale not right, would be pretty dear to buy, have to make them if I do, be nice and need a third AMD 103 class loco  in the latest Amtrak colour scheme be nice indeed.

No work outside today raining heavy now, redraw the track plan and on the ship drawing as well.

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A brisk -31C here this morning, needless to say will not be out much today. Finally stopped snowing, dropped about 45 Centimeters here finally got ahead of it with clearing my parking. On the bright side the day's are getting longer.

Working on a couple of unfinished model projects, which I have put off to long. Laying out yard, looks like I will need to stretch it to at least 10 feet in length, tried to fit it onto a 3 foot by 8 foot sheet of plywood, just to cramped!.

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Morning Ken, ouch -31, complete opposite here, a hot 35 degrees today, turned the air-con on when it reached 32 degrees, can say thumbs up air-con fixed, will need it tomorrow 39 degrees and that to Thursday.

Good time to get some projects out the way, I was going to do some work in the ship project today but the computer killed the time, being on Spotify all  afternoon sorting out playlists and a bug in their latest date as usual, have to wait till they fix it. 
Oh yeah I tried the Canadian Club, is a whisky, very nice indeed with dry ginger ale, will get a couple of already mixed bottles.

I have finely levelled the three station modules and approach module car port end, I decided to temporary put down some track platform two and three to set up the Indian Pacific, got to hot today will do that tomorrow morning, take pics and video, long train 28 coaches  split on the platforms.

   

All the modules finely levelled, I decided to save some time and effort in not cutting new legs, I put in paves and old module leg off cuts  in the next pic.






The next pic I decided to improve the points in the  middle double track, swapping an express point with the medium point, passenger go through with ease  







Last pic switching the two points a slight fix up and running again,, now I have to redo the bus wiring again.

Can't wait to run the first passenger train though the points, a while off yet, will get there.

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Don't like to have too many pics in a post, a lot of work, this pic with the temporary track down, all up with the temporary track need 24 lengths. The two small points to the right of the pic, the outside point will become a Wye point, the there be three tracks there and the middle track a shunting track, like to plan ahead  and in stages.

 More pics t come tomorrow once the Indian Pacific is set up and there be a video clip of the real train shunting the carriages into the platforms, be fun.

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I temporary set up the Indian Pacific with the latest consist of 28 passenger cars, since I started modelling Sydney Central I modeled the IP on the off peak train, once there was two services  a week sadly cut back to one now, I had enough carriages from another train to make up the 28. Pure awesome can't wait to end of June early July to actually split the train drive the first half in and back the other half with another loco, 
Had to bite the dust and scrap Sydney Central and not build the other three modules to complete the station complex, now I have to look for a smaller Union station building that will fit in, most probable scratch building one . 


First pic showing the whole train 28 passenger cars will look awesome running around on the layout especially the spiral, not that far away.




Next pic my lastest loco, NR18 new Indian Pacific colour  scheme only one loco so far in that paint scheme, there is other NR's in different IP colour scheme and Logo.









Last pic of the train split int platforms 2 and 3, platform is used for XPT train.

It is cooling down now under 30 degrees now, off for a weeks holiday tomorrow  back into the construction next weekend.

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I have improved the adjustable saw horses, the bolt idea didn't work, much better now, can't wait to use them next weekend.


 



They were mentioned back in post 35 , top pic showing the the bolts wing nuts, next pic set up. I got fed up of the nuts coming out all the time will take the nuts and fill in with dowel .



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I have finely found the station building I be basing my building on, Dallas Union station, will fit nicely in the Australian scene nicely with a few changes, actually the building will fit in the space I would of had Sydney Central building in but cut down version, since I am not going a head with the second stage of the station complex I had to find another building, bingo.




I be modelling the platforms on East Perth terminal where the Indian Pacific ends her journey across Australia and heads back, until I lay the track down station after the end of June, don't have enough track, will have to complete the main line.





Next pic I be modelling the Auto car carrier dock like in the pic, will see the adjustable ramp at the end of the platform track.

The next pic is what I am hopping my station complex will turn out like stage one, the island suburban island platform I be modelling and have a second second track and platform where the power station is and also being another passing loop for freight trains.



The last pic was meant to be the first, had trouble with the  on the mouse cursor on the corner of the pic 

If anyone has any pics of the Dallas station, especially inside, be a big help, would I get any help from the Dallas Library for drawing, need the height measurements.

All goes well be back into the layout in full swing, was on a weeks holiday last week,picked the wrong time, a cyclone had to hit even though it didn't hit the coast it made it's presence and all the beaches were closes all week, couldn't go swimming in the surf.
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At long last the track, points and cross overs are now down on the approach and last station module, plus I replaces the bolts with 12.5 mm dowel and clamps, speeding up setting up the station models and other sections to the layout.

Even redesigned the bur wire plug panels one on each station module except the last will have three panels, hopefully later on this afternoon I can get stuck into building the new cradle for the panel which will fold up in under neath the module.

The reason of changing the bus wire panels in swapped the station modules to the back of the house and the bridge, the front of the pergola, the bridge has two blocks after the bridge single block and spiral, those three blocks feed back to the back corner module and the two blocks linking up to the first station module at this stage.




Pic above finely done, next job sorts out the bus and block wiring  , going t be a night mare for the chief controller if I decide to mortise the double slip cross over and three way point, I may., not at this stage will be using remote throttles be walking around with the train.



Next above pic, I sorted out the diamond crossover and swamped it with t a single slip on the main line, if you go back to the last post there is pics of East Perth terminal station. Made it so when the Indian Pacific arrives at East Perth the locos can be uncoupled and shunted around the train , the cross overs and point to the right of the pics once the third stage of the station complex is finished and become the main line, wont upset the through traffic , can't wait,station complex track be finished after June.



Next above pic is the clamps I am using to clamp the modules together,using two works out well





Next above pic showing the clamp, for its price does its job will jet two more, last pic the 12.5 mm dowels, will not glue them in place, slide them back in will protect them as well.
Again I had trouble with trying to click the bottom of the pic so I can type under it, not to be.

The attachment pic is of the new bus wire panel the next module have the same, I am using up all those plugs, changing  to RCA single plugs, buy a bug packet of them.
Next post be on my bridge, as I have finely started construction of my double deck cable stay bridge.
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I finely finished the bus wire plug panel, very happy working well folding in and down with ease, took a lot of thought and wasted some ply but got there in the end, the next module after this one will have the same  size I am only building the panels this way till I use up the speaker plugs I have.

Then I will change to RCA plugs not needing those panels, took two days to build, I want to speed up the construction of the layout, RCA plugs are the way to, buy a lot in one bag will be cheaper,coasting per plug 68cents AU each.



Top pic of the panel cradle folded up in under neath the module frame  got carried away with the size of the panel being only half the size, those nuts are the lucking type nuts, the normal nuts will have to keep tightening all the time



Oops!! I got carried away and forgot the plugs are double ones, only need need 12 blocks needing only six double plugs,, luckily I picked the mistake early, to fix it all I have to do is unscrew the 6 on the left and cut the panel to the right size.

The needed blocks are, five are terminus tracks and three through tracks stage one of the station module complex, stage two be the suburban and through traffic, the other four blocks are two passing loops on the bridge and one single track block and siding.

Easy fix cut the panel down, and move the cradle ends, will have enough for the next couple of panels now.

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The track decking is coming along nicely, I have started work on the double deck bridge and moved onto completing the single track decking from the car port to the bridge , be an awesome site indeed with the large S bend seeing the first train run through them.

After fixing the plug panel will set up the station and approach model so I can build the car port back of the house end corner module , to move onto completing the rest of the decking  for the car port, a lot of work still ahead in the bridge construction will just have the rail deck done, coming along nicely. 


Forgot to add the straight section on the paves is the start of the bridge being 28 feet in length main span 14 feet, be in 4,7 foot sections.

Happy Easter everyone.

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I have finished building the back of the house corner module yesterday, got that down to a fine art, doesn't take long now with the heap of corner clamps  holding the sides in place while I screw the top on.

I have made the road wider between the two modules for a tram circuit as well , will have to build my own station building to fit the scene, not modeling Sydney central now, not enough room, cabs will replace the trams that would of being in front of the station building.

Beyond that module will be the spiral and then the deck work its way around to a tunnel and onto the bridge, will look awesome when done with a  castle on top of the hill, gee those kits are dear to buy,don't want a big castle.

A job for today setting up the spiral to see how it will fit now the corner module is done, pics to follow.

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I started today in doing a mock-up of how the spiral will sit to the track plan, it wasn't easy with the module, so I moved the module out the way and changed a couple of curved around, wow worked out even better.

Again I had trouble trying to get the cursor onto the bottom right hand corner of the first pic, the only way to fix it is put the last pic on first will try that next post.

Top pic I thought I take through the trees, looks good, of course the spiral deck be above the balcony hand rails, plants being a good back drop and the train on the spial as well, be pure awesome can't wait for the special day.



Next pic I shifted the module out the way and wow the spiral sat perfectly, also shifted it down 6 inches as well, on the corner module be five tracks, not sure yet on the amount of points and they be mostly the large Pecko radius points 




Lucky last pic the first set up, wasn't easy having to use pieces of old leg posts, will be much easier after I have levelled the module this week.

The pic above is the better one, I have a level jig to work out the grade to quarter inch a foot 24 feet in length rising 7 inches to the bridge.

Tomorrow I be doing a mock-up pont how the points will go to the plan on the spiral, then I will paint the module, one final module to build..

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I got stuck into a point and track muck-up to the track plan, has turned out well be awesome when the the trains are running through the points, be a bottle neck though merging onto a single track main line, I love single track running with another passing loop on the front of the layout, will keep the chief controller on his toes.


The points on that module I will motorise and working signals, be a distance from the main controller, depends on what throttles I will first use, remote I can walk with the train, friends over will need a controller then, sit in a chair controlling a train.

I also decided to join  the module up to  the gray module to see how the double track lined up perfect, there is two other station to go in between the gray module and a 2ft bridge connecting the the corner module. I don't like to have too many module joined up together, came up the with rail  bridge over the road.

Break tomorrow, Wednesday I will level the corner module with the first station module, so 
I can paint the module and begin relaying the track and points permanently.

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Spiral corner model is finished with track and points down, yesterday I spent making up the bus wire harnesses with the feeder wires soldered in place and paired off and coded, tomorrow I will solder the feeder wires onto the track 
Top pic track and points down at last 




Next pic looking down from car port end , the point to the left of the oic on the last track is for the auto carrier unloading and loading dock modelled on East Perth terminal where the Indian Pacific ends her journey and returns to Sydney which I be modelling first till I build my version of Sydney Central station.




Last pic I drilled the holes for the point motors, will motorised these points a fair way from the control panel, I could walk around with the train when I am using remote  throttles

Have worked out I will need 42 lengths of Peco flexi track to complete the first circuit, hope to have enough track go 30 lengths and older lengths, will see what money I get for my birthday end of June and buy two boxes of Peco flexi track. There is an eBay seller in WA selling boxes of Peco track for $100 plus postage, hope to buy two boxes.

Will have to make a start on the main control panel pretty soon, doing the building of the panel during the day and wiring of the rotary switches at night.

Next construction is of the spiral levelling al the curved deck sections, not take long, have made a special level jig to measure and cut the legs to size and all over again track laying with bus wiring never ending, going to be pure awesome when the first train runs around the whole layout , be a robin cutting ceremony first train over the bridge and video of the big even.

Have being at this build for four years, coming to an end soon , layout always be on going.

I think I have sorted out the loading on of pics with cursor, has worked in the two post I just posted


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" I had trouble trying to get the cursor onto the bottom right hand corner of the first pic "



Hi Tony :wave:



Lookin' good. :thumb:

That spiral corner-module looks like good fun ! :)

Drivers should take it easy on the throttle there, to avoid any passenger nausea !! :shocked:


On the photo-posting ^^ thing. :brill:

After you have got a new photo up in the 'Main Reply Window' ...

... best thing is ALWAYS hit the 'Return' key a couple of times.

That way you've ...

1. Got a nice space of a couple of lines before the next photo ... or ...

2. Got a nice space of a couple of lines before the text continues ... & ...

3. It's easy to place the cursor within that larger space.

If you hit 'Return' too many times, it doesn't matter, since you can just hit 'Backspace' to remove unwanted empty lines.



It is a tad difficult to place the cursor otherwise ... :us:

... as the bottom-right of the photo is essentially the 'end of that line' & there is at that point, nothing following it.



Posts can always be checked of course, using the 'Main Reply Window' PREVIEW button ...

... and changes made to the appearance if one wishes. L:



All the best ...

... & 5-Mooses, for causing a PECO HO shortage in your local area ! ;)

Keep up the good work !! :)



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Hi Si:wave:, that is what I do now right click the pic but I load on  all the pics first before previewing then works ok, will try that method again now.

First pic had trouble, took a while for the cursor to show up, when finde for the rest, finely.

The first pic  looking down the photo, going to look awesome for when the Indian Pacific glides through the bride into the platform, the East Perth's terminal platform is the longest in Australia hold of 28 passenger cars I will try that and see if I can fit in the platform to scale length.

The track to the right of the pic close to the side edge of the module I can move up more and larger curve to link up the inner track on the other module is part of the next station complex stage a foot wide lengths three needed at 7 foot in length.








Second pic of the bridge connection and road under neath 




Third pic, is the two double bus wire plugs, for blocks, 1,2,3 and 4, 1 and 2 have no feeder wires coming off the bridge.



Lucky last the double plug for blocks 1 and 2 and the single plug for block 3 , all that wire needed so I can run more than one train, a lot more fun with more than one friend over for a running day.

I have being busy working on the ship, now ready to work my way up to the top deck, far better than the last build.

On a high, could be ready in JUne to run the first train.

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Hi Si:wave:, here is my control panel as far as I can go, the fun begins, I am going over to a friends house for him to show me on the first rotary switch how to solder the remaining 8 pins to the right throttle, I can do the rest same with the first 4 pins.




 Next pic inside the panel, making sure the bare wires of the LED are not touching, may use heat shrink.


Very happy with the panel fascia finish, still need the cut the rotary switches down for the knobs to sit flush with the switch bolt.

Will work on soldering in steps the first four pins and resistors then the throttle pins, be worth the effort to see the panel work and trains run through the blocks.

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Hi Tony  :wave:



WOW ! ... 'Mission Control' panel !!  :shocked:



The rotary-switches are really nice ones.  :thumb:

I know them here as 'Lorlin' switches, after who make them.

I have used LOADS of these over the years, mostly for audio, but other things as well.



If you take one apart (which I would NOT recommend !) ... ;)

They are a very simple & very reliable design inside.

I have NEVER known one to go wrong & it's nice they are fairly sealed/closed construction.



Lookin' good !  :cool:



:)



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Hi Si:wave:, yeah quite happy and on a high, my friend offered to wire the rotary up for me, save me doing it and cursing as I go from one switch to another, was very nice of him to offer, I now can concentrate on the layout and ship project at night.

Going to lite up like a Christmas tree, pt some power into a couple of them quite bright, bright, but being out side will kill the brightness of the LED's, can't wait to see the panel finished.

There is a second panel to be made as well, for the point switching, a bit bigger than that one, I still need to screw in a ply bottom to the panel for the remote controllers to sit and local throttle.

Each throttle will have it'sown transformer and a separate one to power the LED's, the only problem with DC all that wire just to run more than one train but worth the effort.

Maybe I might pull an old one apart to have a look, amazing how they worked it out to get the switch to that size.

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All the modules to do with the station is now complete and, joined up the corner module main line to the approach module today, next job is the bus wiring, three to wire up, the approach and corner be the hardest.

I am glad I replaced the bolts with dowel making it much easier and using clamps to hold the modules together, two more modules to re-drill the holes for the dowel.
Pic one  of the dowels and clamp used to hold the modules together.




Pic two the corner module after leveling and cutting the legs to size


Pic three the curved section , I wont have the car in the car in the car port while running trains, the curve is very close to the car and i want to cut back  6 inches for the single track deck to link up with a small bridge.


The single track deck curve works out well linking up to the two 6 foot straight sections, I plan to make ply brackets for the the to screw to the retaining wall at the side of the car port.

More pics to come next post, getting close to the big event, can't wait.

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All the track and points are down on all the modules, I closed the gap on the main line between the corner and approach module, can't run a train till I solder in the bus wires, three modules to do, next job.

Ran out of time and light today to solder in the fiber glass brass strips, will do that tomorrow, but I may run my sons Thomas tanks loco, hope she will run, going to the first loco on the layout , run her on his birthday in July.

First pic I decided to move the point where the diamond cross over now is to the outside track, making it easier for the passenger trains to go through especially the Indian Pacific with 28 passenger cars, two locos. 


Next pic a close up of the cross over , very old and still working ok .



Last pic , I swapped the cross over with two points for better access to the shut track and passing loop second track 


The cross over left is a single slip for access to the outer platform tack when I have the  terminus platforms set, the third track be covered with a platform , going to be a lot of fun keeping the chief controller on his toes  when I have a couple of friends over for a running day.

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I kept looking at the last two pics and no the points did not look right.

Must of had a dream about the points   :P :moose: because the next day I came up with the new idea, wow looking good.
The points coming off the inner track wont be used, they are only be used when shunting the Ghan locos.
The single slip will be used to access the passing loop track when I have the terminus station set, the inner track be covered with a platform.

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I am on a high, powered up the control panel yesterday, wow my friend did a great job in the wiring up of the rotary switches.
Still I have to do my bit in connecting to the track on the layout from the panel, wire up the throttles as well.

The first pic with the first colours to run a train around the whole layout.





Next pic with the rotary switch at different positions of the rotary switch.
Controlling three  throttles, two remotes for the main line and a local or one remote and two local throttles.





I will be closing in under the panel and extending out for the receivers for the remote throttles and local throttle.
Transformers will be in a cradle with a four switch power board and only one lead to the power plug.

Big day today, setting up all the cut decking and modules to see how they will go with the decking plan and if I need more ply, hopefully not.

Slightly warmer last night  4 degrees, 17 degrees now to a nice 25 degrees day, wind is building up, hope not too colder a wind.

Once all the decking is in place, will begin joining them up with the way I join the smaller sections together.

Am thinking of doing away with plug to make it quicker to set up the modules and sections.
Looking into those  switched you use for lift out bridges.
On the smaller deck sections will cost the same as the speaker plugs I am using.

I will use the double plugs and single plugs to connect the panel to the layout, any ideas.
A bit like how slot car track power join up together.
Will have to do a video clip once the decking is up, don't have a wide angle lens.

Tony from cool down under.


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" I am on a high, powered up the control panel yesterday "



Hi Tony  :!:



WWOOWW !!  :thumb:



That looks totally utterly bloomin' AWESOME bro. !  :bg:





Is it really CHRISTMAS again already ?  ;)



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Hi Si. :wave: many thanks.
 
I am real happy the way the control panel has turned out thanks to my friend doing the wiring and the way I made the panel as well.
Took a while for it all to come together, a panel I have thought about for some time, something different.

There is more pics coming of Saturdays effort.
I set up and joined all the main decking from the spiral to the bridge back around to the car port and onto the car port back corner module.
I will load on 4 on this post and 4 on the next post.

I ran out of time on Saturday and it was starting to cool down.
Will leave the rest of the spiral till when I start work on leveling the spiral and cutting the legs to the grade.





Next pic filling the gap from the spiral to the curve coming off the bridge.
The curves and straight section is coded to which way they will sit when cut.





Next pic the curve after the bridge I plan to model a good size hill to sit a castle on top and down the track a cable car to the castle, tunnel needed.





The bridge decking 27 feet in length, 14 foot main span where the top arch will go.
I plan to add sides for the bridge and curved sections as well to stop the trains ending up on the floor.

Sadly that happened to my late son's Thomas when I was test running her, was not a happy camper.
She hit hard and broke the funnel off scratched his face and top of the boiler.
My wife said to buy a replacement shell which I did one on its way from the UK, looked where the funnel was and repairing it.

Thomas is going to be the first loco to run on the layout.
Hopefully have all the station modules powered up and some of the decking on his birthday in mid July, loco is 26 years old.
Chris was 6 when he got the set for his birthday, why I want to run Thomas in July.





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Here are the rest of the pics.
First pic the complete station modules from spiral to car port with lift out bridge, be a second bridge for the auto car carrier dock. 
The three outer track is for the suburban extension. 





Next pic the S  bend off the bridge always wanted a S bend that big.





Next pic looking back to the spiral.
I am going to have to set up the spiral corner module again and get the levels.
Hopping I have enough clearance on the middle balcony rail, fingers crossed. 





Lucky last pic the last single curve track decking will need sides for the curve, hope to build into a curved viaduct with arches, later.





Tony from down under, nearly there but still a way off, only spending a day hear and there on the construction.


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Spiral construction is well under way with the bridge filling the gap between the spiral and corner module.
I plan to do a river scene will look good and build in under neath the bridge with an arch.
I have now painted the bridge and set up the corner module and bridge on two saw horses and an adjustable stand,
works well so I am not bending down getting a sore back.





Next pic showing my level jig how I level the grade on the spiral, every 3 feet goes up 3 quarters of an inch, better with a longer level.
The curve deck is 5 feet long, I have clamped and bracket to the balcony hand rail post, saves on a timber leg.

I will screw on a piece of ply so I can get the grade height right making it easier for the next curve,
which is 12 foot quarter diameter curve, 7 feet in length,
then onto a straight 3 feet long and onto 7 foot diameter 3 quarter curve onto a straight and final curve onto the bridge.





Last pic is how I line up the curve and straight deck join so the track will line up every time.
I found I had to clamp a piece of ply to the bottom of both legs to keep them upright  until I join the second curve to the post bracket. 

I have to gain 9 inches to the bridge, sure have the length to achieve that.
The spiral looks pretty close the Tehachapi loop I first started working, so I could model the Tehachapi farm there as well.





Next port will have the track down, it is down under's turn to be rain till Tuesday, plenty to do under the pergola track laying and wiring,

Tony on a high, from down under


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Track is down on the bridge connecting to the main line on the spiral corner module.

First pic I set up the bridge so I can nail the track down,
ready to solder the fiber glass coated brass strips onto the rails, screw the strip down and cut the track.

It is very dull here and cold still 16 degrees outside, don't think I will get anything done today,
I have a nerve issue that plays havoc when it gets cold especially when the westerly winds hit. 

Still on pic one, I also swapped the curve point for a straight point on the corner module and moved the curved point a long more,
so I can fix the track between the two points.





Pic two I unscrewed the front side off the module so I can cut the ply to raise it up 5mm's,
so the grade doesn't have that kink in it where the train would uncouple.





Last pic looking down the module and bridge, can see much better,
I will have to glue on the bridge leg and first spiral curve deck 5mm piece of ply.





Two boxes of Peco flexi track arrived today.

With the other full box and 6 single lengths of track have 82 lengths,
plenty of track to complete the layout.

Tony from cold down under.


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Hi Tony  :wave:



Lookin' good !  :thumb:



You seem to be branching out with the 'thin bits' EL RAPIDO !!  :mex:

None of this  L:  with all that complicated pointwork helps I guess ?

&

EVEN MORE PECO !  :shocked:

That container load you ordered, should be at the docks soon I hope.  ;)



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Hi Si  :wave:

How is your summer treating you, has that heatwave gone and back to mild weather.

Here are some more point pics that will blow you away,
the points to the right of the pic with the small cross over is access to the block siding,
that will have a turntable at the end of the module and a auto carrier wagon load dock at the other end.

I tested a 12 wheel drive diesel loco and had to change the small point close to the right end of the module with a bigger one,
a 0-8-2 ran through with no problems.

The big test is when I run my NR class diesel, onto the small 6 inch point, fingers crossed ok,
don't think the DD40AX locos go through that point, will have to go a bit further down to the next point, with a bit of shunting.











Thought I will put in a pic of my turntable,
needs a bit of TLC getting her back in shape, a few broken parts need to be glued back in place,
the turntable can be motorized, will look into it .





Have started making up the last two block bus wire harness,
one is already in place working on the last for the car port corner module. 

Still a lot of wiring work ahead before I can put any power into the tracks,
and with the approach have to finish soldering the feeder wires to the track, getting there.

Track arrived Tuesday, got plenty of track to complete the main line and station platform track.


Tony from  cloudy down under, wet Monday.


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The wiring is coming along well.

I decided to have a go and took out a track joiner for an isolated track joiner,
so I can switch off part of the block before the the 3 way point, using one side of the DPDT switch.
To my shock it worked, yet on another big high.

First pic. 
A test run switching of the track after the 3way point so I can uncouple the lead loco for it to drive onto another block,
switch the track back on and the second loco will drive off on the right track onto the right side island platform.

 



Pic two, the switch set up.
I drilled a hole big enough for the switch and made up and dissension, not long enough.
The best way to protect the switch for when storing the modules, worked out well.





The next pic.
A test run of the SF loco driving up beside the first loco.

When I have all the modules set up I will be driving in my Indian Pacific to that point making sure the first loco has passed,
switch off the track after the point uncouple the first loco and drive it off onto another block.

Then be able to drive the second loco with half of the IP passenger cars onto the right side of the island platform,
and the second half get backed in with another loco.

A lot of mucking around happens in real life, will find a video of it actually happening at Sydney Central.

The IP has 28 passenger cars with one Auto car carrier wagon.
In between that all happening,
the auto car carrier wagon is uncoupled from the back of the train and shunted onto the auto car unloading dock siding.

Can't wait to drive in my train, still a little way off.





Lucky last pic.
Few changes to the points for the best and swapping the diamond for the double slip crossing,
easier access for the island platform from the right hand 3 way point and the track close to the edge of the module. 
Be adding an extra 6 inch length of ply for the auto car wagon siding to the end of the first platform.

The point between the 3 way and double slip is an electrofrog point, was sold the wrong point, not knowing at the time,
wondering why it wouldn't work till a friend told me.
I have seen enough videos to be able to fix the shorting issues, a bit of mucking around.
With the prices of the points these days not going to throw it out in a hurry.
Will post a video of the point working in next post .

I bought some 7 foot paling for the bridge sides.
Will sand them tomorrow paint, nail down the double track and solder in the bus wire harness's, four sections for the bridge.





Tony from down under, getting closer to the big day, worth the big effort.


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Hi Tony  :wave:



The pointwork is looking AWESOME !  :bg:

The 'electrofrog' point should be possible to get working somehow.  L:


Thank goodness I'm making tin-pot narrow-gauge stuff ...  :old dude:

... when I comes to the points, I should be able to count them, without using my toes as well as my fingers !  ;)



Weather report from Blighty ... The papers said it would be the hottest day EVER ! today !! ...  :shocked:

... I can't say I would argue with that !

There's been a bit of a HEATWAVE  :s:  here at the moment ...

... certainly WELL OVER 30c for a good few days, mid 30s in fact.



PHEW !  :cool:



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Early morning Si:wave:  I can't wait to plug in the control panel to to the blocks when shunting the Indian Pacific, be a while off yet, the wiring is taking a while, a friend said I had the wires red and back around the wrong way, while working on the approach module have swapped the, around, will work my way down., the modules

Talking about that electrofrog point, I am on a high got it works after threes days of trying different methods, internet to the rescue, was about to give up yesterday, and Ken said go on Peco's web site,they they had info on elecrofrogs. Saw a YouTube video on how to do , a few changes of the wires and a Peco point motor and switch that goes under the motor did the track, bingo it worked, the switch changing the polarity, PL13 accessory switch, $8.50 here.  

Here are the pics on how I did it, a bit of work and time to get results, I can see why modelers like the electrofrog points  to insulofrog , less chance of shorts with the bigger wheels in 00 scale.
Over all shot of the point and point motor.




Close up of soldering the inner rail to the outside rail, then soldering wires to the other side ode of the frog was not easy, I also had to cut underneath between the sleepers for the wire 
Looking at the point, the gap Peco ad joined a small wire, that had to e cut as well on to the frog rail as well. will see the cut in the first pic between the wires soldered and frog .




Last pic, wiring up the switch, the black wire is the common wire from the frog, I think I will need to to wire in a CPU to give the grunt to power the switch movement, lucky I have one.

The plan is to do it such a way I can take the point motor off, all I have done on the switch is make the wires thicker to just plug in like a plug, I will put lugs on those wires be easier, same with the motor wires , this work out well will do the same to most of the points. 




No wonder you are copping it bad with that heat wave Si, you go through freezing winters, the summers over here hit 40 degrees++, melted two of my digital weather stations, the one I have now once it goes won't  replace it.  I wan't to build my own, buying the weather instruments, sad thing is doesn't measure the wind speed.

I am going on my son's computer and playing with a racing game, bought a  hand controller, was bought to celebrate his birthday, his gaming computer has had a good rest, plan to buy more games, his computer is still a top gaming computer being  5 years old keep it till it packs up.

Tony from sunny down under, till cool  in the house.




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