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 Posted: Fri Sep 16th, 2016 08:25 am
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Robert Comerford
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Soaking ballasted track that was glued using 50:50 PVA/water mix with hot water will bring it up without damage.
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 Posted: Fri Sep 16th, 2016 01:37 pm
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Hi Bob, actually I used a method close to your way in a test when I was modelling the Tehachapi loop, used the gray paver base and sprayed it with a lighter gray. Here is a pic, I didn't put any ballast in the middle of the track, a lot of work may do that later.

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 Posted: Fri Sep 16th, 2016 11:18 pm
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That should be easier to recover than fully ballasted track too. That is a good thing about Peco code 100, it is robust and can be re-laid many times with some care. I used Shinohara code 70 for a time in HO but it was easily damaged. Much of the rail was handlaid with balsa sleepers for subsequent use. Later,the compromise was to use Peco code 75.
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 Posted: Sat Sep 17th, 2016 10:21 pm
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Hi Bob, I not sure if I will ballast the track being module layout with the modules on their sides in the garden shed, same as you why I painted the modules gray for.

How are you going with the repairs on that station platform, I am figuring out how to built my platforms, last layout used ply and made it too heavy to pic up,3X 7ft module, modules are 2X6, stage two of the station complex two modules be 7feet long by still2ft wide.

In HO scale the platforms are about 16mm high that will depend if you are using an underlay on the track.

Yeah Peco track is the way to go last a long time outside, I had a length of track from the first layout and the sleepers were brittle still have a few points as well still going well and motors.

Must ask you are you using point motors outside, over in the UK they are using those car door locking motors as they are 12 volt and water proof, I will be doing the same, seen them go between 9 and 12 dollars.

To get the signals to work I will be using a SPST slide switch, has three wires. and a DPDT switch to switch the point or if I can work out to switch four at once use the remote that comes with the kit.

Rain coming in today, worked on the layout yesterday, again mid week to finish the station module's.

Tony from SE/QLD

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 Posted: Sat Sep 17th, 2016 11:06 pm
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Raining too much at the moment to do much outdoors. I used the break in the rain yesterday to start preparing the veggie patches for the new growing season and washing etc.. very boring but needed.

The platforms outdoors are made of a centre section of Styrofoam pieces with balsa sides and fine dirt top. That method is very light; although for me it was just what I had at the time.

If you look through my first thread you will see some relay huts next to the points near the access ramp. Inside these are Peco point motors. There would be thousands of these outdoors in the UK too. If you can get car lock motors cheap, they will do the job. I can remember a couple of layouts that had them years ago. From memory they got them second hand as a job lot. I had access to them via my job and had them on a couple of layouts. I donated them when I first left modelling railways for some years.
All my points have the frog switched by a microswitch operated by the point tie bar and the closure rails are bonded to the stock rails and the points are fed via flexible wires.
When the PMG was upgrading from older automatic exchange equipment, the relays were readily available and very cheap. They had lots of contacts on them too. Many layouts still have them for operating points and signals. Some have probably had a 50 year life extension since they were obtained.

One of my friends would paint his Peco code 100 track with black house paint each year to extend the life of the sleeper base.

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 Posted: Sun Sep 18th, 2016 12:13 am
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Hi Bob, it is raining here now, going by boom NSW is copping the worsted of the rain band, enough to stop doing anything outside.

We used to grow vegies has two good seasons and that was it,sun was a problem only had sun in the afternoon, where I had the vegie garden, didn't want to put in the middle of the yard.

We buy those light and easy meals now, not the full programme.

Will only be using the door locking motors out side still have a few of the Peco motors, are you DCC outside, I do think I will go DCC , will be using two remote controllers and one throttle for local use shunting.

OH year that other HO/00 scale garden railway I was using, can't use it anymore, glad I started my onw tread, lazy day today.

Tony.



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 Posted: Sun Sep 18th, 2016 01:21 am
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The layouts are all DCC, have been for many years.
I have had some of the throttles converted to radio.

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 Posted: Mon Sep 19th, 2016 12:07 am
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Morning Bob, rain gone, we must of had a storm last night very heavy rain.

That is interesting about converting your throttles to radio, I have two radio ones, a lot of 0 scale modules use them.

Get to use the new 36vot battery mower today, not sure if I will buy a battery chain saw.

I bought the chain saw to mainly to cut logs to size to turn on the wood lathe, I may sell that not using it as much now.

Tony.

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" One of my friends would paint his Peco code 100 track with black house paint each year to extend the life of the sleeper base."

Hi Robert & Tony.

I'm told Krylon(TM) is possibly good for such things.
It can be difficult to paint these types of plastics for outdoor use.

If these plastics are outside for a year or two...
...the U.V kinda 'etches' the surface & makes for good paint adhesion.

I believe Krylon(TM) is ideal for this.
Garden furniture & plastic diesel-tanks as well, I believe.

'U.V resistant cable-ties' I now use outside...
...ordinary ones go brittle after only a couple of years.

:moose:

Si.



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 Posted: Mon Sep 19th, 2016 11:30 pm
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Hi Si and Bob, I did a search on the net about krylon product and came across a spray paint that has a stone affect.

http://www.michaels.com/krylon-stone-coarse-texture-paint/M10170247.html

Be a big job having to cover the track rails if you use the a spray, comes in a paint tin too I don't have to worry about that with the layout being a modular set up but even in the garden shed the plastic sleepers over time goes brittle.

Can't ait to get stuck back into the layout and finishing off the last station module, looks like tomorrow is out be raining, will see, if only showers I will make a start.

Tony from SE/QLD

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