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 Posted: Mon Jul 31st, 2017 02:49 pm
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Michael, John, and others modeling corrugated roofing:
This past thread of posts has been helpful to me, and great info for my next models.
Here is a photo of my Quartz Hill Mine model - the bent-over cap on the roof is probably too wide, and on future models, I will need to make the bent portion much smaller.



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I think it looks great!



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Here's a few photos of the station I've been working on.  A bit of an odd shape because it sits in a pie-shaped area.  Only light weathering on the roof.  Station still needs door and windows.








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I was checking out the On2 website and discovered that the Maine Two-Footers put tin roofing on most of their rolling stock.

https://maineon2faq.wordpress.com/category/equipment/boxcars/


There is quite a bit of modeling information on the page.  I'm thinking that a tin-roofed boxcar would make a neat model.

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 Posted: Tue Sep 19th, 2017 02:42 am
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Well, I haven't been posting much lately - my job has been consuming most of my time. However, it's not all work and no play.  
I went to the National Narrow Gauge Convention in Denver in late August/early September. Wow! What a great time. 


I gave a clinic on Mines and Mining Along the Gilpin Tramway on Friday night and Saturday morning. It was fun to meet several of the FreeRails readers of this thread, and discuss Gilpin Tram stuff.


It was fun reconnecting with Rick Steele. Rick owns LaBelle Woodworking Company, and has also published several articles in Gazette on the Central City area. Here is Rick and me in the manufacturer's display area


Some other people I hadn't seen for a while where Doug Heitkamp and Darel Leedy (that's me on the right). Doug and Darel are very knowledgable on all things C&S and Gilpin Tram.


And there was time to do some visiting in Gilpin Tram country. Each year, there are more and more changes, most of them not good relative to historic sites. There is progressively more private land closed to access, new development closing off or demolishing sites, and the inevitable toll of weather and snow. Here is the Federal Mine near Russell Gulch. The amount of sagging due to settlement of the ground around the shaft is very noticeable. I wonder how many more years this mine building has left?
Well, that's what I have been up to lately. I have also been working on gathering more historic info on the Gilpin Tram-to-C&S transfer and Polar Star Mill in Black Hawk. I'll post that info "soon-ish".
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Hi Keith :wave:


Sounds like a great time in Denver ! :)



I really like the Federal Mine building.





A very nice option for a smallish, but 'real' structure.


Perfect for larger scales, where space is tight. :thumb:


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I imagine you had a blast at the NG convention. Maybe someday for me. BTW, that Federal Mine looks like my old house except my place was a little more funky!

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Woodie,
I hope your next home is better than the previous one!  Actually, as long as one has space for model building and layout, everything else becomes secondary.


This is the back side of the Federal Mine, which looks a whole lot worse than the front (east) side! Deterioration like this will greatly foreshorten the remaining life of this mine, unfortunately.
The Federal Mine is available as a laser kit, and was brought out maybe 4-5 years ago. I built a test build for Mike at Wild West Scale Model Builders:

Weathering structures like this is fun, and not hard to do. Laser kits have pretty much done all the thinking for you already, so they do assemble fairly quickly

Here is my HO version of the Federal Mine - I didn't put a full interior inside, and wish now that I would have. I modeled it as it may have appeared in earlier years, before the metal siding went on. Of course, I don't know if this is how this mine was actually built or not, but hey, it's my model railroad
Here is the same HO model, showing the backside. I don't know if that lean-to addition is accurate or not, but it certainly adds interest
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Back to Black Hawk!



This photo is from Gilpin Railroad Era, and shows Shay #1 and a work train in front of the Meade Mill.
In previous posts, we started at the upper end of Clear Creek, and looked at the Wheeler, Golden Fleece, Fullerton, Hidden Treasure, Humphrey and Meade Mills.  Continuing downstream on our tour, we go around a slight bend and soon encounter the C&S to Gilpin Tram freight transfer, the C&S-Gilpin Tram ore chutes, the Polar Star Mill, and the Eagle Mill.




This map shows the previously covered sections, and the portion of Black Hawk that we will be looking at today





Here is a great view from the Denver Public Library, Western History Collection, showing a view of Black Hawk looking south. Lots of detail can be seen in this view



Here is an enlargement of the same Denver Public Library photo, zooming in on the Gilpin Tram and C&S freight transfer. There are two C&S coal cars parked on the siding, next to two Gilpin Tram coal cars. The C&S coal cars will be unloaded by hand shoveling into the Gilpin Tram coal cars. Empty C&S coal cars are parked on the siding next to the ore chutes, and will be filled one-by-one from Gilpin ore cars above. The loaded cars will be coasted down on the slight gradient, and the next car loaded



















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Here is a key to the previous photo, identifying the major areas of interest



This is a photo from the Ronzio collection, and published in the Gilpin Railroad Era. There is a lot of detail in this photo. This photo was taken when the Gilpin Tram and shut down and was being scrapped - that is torn-up rail inside the C&S gondola in the foreground. Note the dual gauge track at right - the 2' gauge Gilpin Tram track is to the left of it. The "mainline" is the dual gauge track at far left (in front of the shay). One interesting detail here - the turnouts to 2' gauge track are all thrown with harp switch stands, and any dual gauge turnout is thrown with rotary switch stands. I wonder what color the switch stand targets were painted?


GILPIN TRAM –C&S TRANSFER
 
The narrow valley of Clear Creek took a slight bend to the west, and just around the corner were the freight transfer tracks from the 3’ gauge C&S to the 2’ gauge Gilpin Tram. The accompanying figures show the simple track arrangement – 2 parallel sidings where freight was hand-transferred from the 3’ gauge to the 2’ gauge. I think most of the freight was coal for the mines – it was delivered in 3’ gauge gondolas (coal cars) and then shoveled into both Gilpin Tram ore cars and specially-built wooden coal cars. Records from October 1907 show 15 C&S cars of coal were transferred to the Gilpin Tram that month.
 
There was other traffic the Gilpin Tram hauled periodically, and this included this traffic in August and October 1907:
 
  • ·       “Merchandise” (not described any more than that), in shipments varying from 0.14 to  0.66 tons, and hauled in ore cars to the East Pewabic and Pewabic Mine s
  • ·       “Steel”, 1.666 tones in ore car 141 to the Pewabic Mine
  • ·       Drill steel, 4.09 tons to the Pewabic Mine in Car 4 (a coal car)
  • ·       A casting (not described) of 0.1 tons in ore car 139 from the Pewabic Mine to the depot area
  • ·       “Oil” in ore car 136 to the East Pewabic Mine (must have been in cans or barrels)
  • ·       Steel (not described) of 2 tons in coal car 4 from the Pewabic Mine to the depot area
  • ·       Iron pipe, 0.92 tons from the depot area to the Old Town Mine in coal car 4
  • ·       “Powder” in ore cars 45 & 48 – 11.45 tons of it! This was from the depot area to the Old Town Mine




Here is a view from the Denver Public Library, Western History Collection, greatly enlarged from a small corner of a photo. The south side of the Polar Star Mill can be seen at left, along with the Gilpin Tram ore spur for unloading (track is on a trestle). In the center (blurry) distance, some C&S cars can be seen parked on the transfer track. I love this scene showing how crowded together the buildings are  - there seems to be smokestacks and buildings everywhere!






This track map is enlarged from a C&S track map from the Colorado Historical Society collection. The Gilpin Tram transfer track is very close to the Polar Star Mill




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