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 Posted: Mon Sep 26th, 2016 05:16 pm
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Keith,

Your Part 1 Thread Map index is great.

Did I show you the cut stones I have been working on for the Warming Shed, during the NNGC? If i couple work out the posting of photos I would, still messing with the system, but not working, for me.

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Woodie,

Yes, it is too bad progress continues, and the warming house ruins are all gone.  Considering the tram quit running 99 years ago, I consider myself fortunate that there are as many remains to view today as there are!

Monte,

Glad you found this thread, and I hope you will be able to post some photos of your stonework modeling here. You and I talked about it for a while at the National Narrow Gauge Convention, but I didn't see any photos at the time.



The real stone retaining walls are impressive, and hold up very well today. Something I have tried modeling in different ways, including casting in plaster and resin, hand-carving, hand-laying, and ready-made walls. Hand-laid looks the best, but of course, takes the most time. I recently picked up a package of the Chooch brand flexible plastic stone sheet with adhesive backing - this may be useful for building foundations.

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Keith,

I use 2 methods of making heavy rough coursed stonework.

1) I turned up a slim, pointed soldering iron bit. Then I freehand the courses in soft pencil onto soft, thick cardboard & burn the courses in. Repeated to/fro over a part will deepen the course depth between stones.

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2) I peel off the outer paper skin from 5 mm foam board then use an old dried out biro point or sharp pencil to "emboss" the coursing.

Paint to suit.

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Keith, Go ahead and post the cut stones I have been playing with for the Warming Shed.

They need to be more varied in size still working on that.

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Thanks for all the great information on the Gilpin ore car warming house, and the photo, I had not seen it before!



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I'm a Colorado mining district afficianado. Planning a layout in HOn3 based on the Gilpin County area.
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When I was in "G" scale, back in the twin cities, I laid out a frame of 1/4" thick boards on a flat surface then filed the center with mortar mix. Leveled the mortar with a rough stick to give it texture. Once cured, I hit the mortar with a hammer to break it into flat "stones" suitable for hand laying a stone wall. This should work in smaller scales using thinner boards and plaster.

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AWESOME Larry !!

So simple...
...but BRILLIANT !!

Aren't the best ideas always !

:moose:

Si.

Gonna try it, bet it looks 101%



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Si, make two or three frames of various thickness for variety.

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There are a lot of ways to model the stone walls so common in Gilpin County. Michael and Larry, thank you for posting your methods to model these types of walls. If you, or any other thread readers have photos of your stone walls to share, please post them.

More on Stone Walls - Monte Pearson's Modeling



Monte Pearson models the Gilpin Tram, in 1:24 scale  I believe. His layout seems to be well along, and he has been building structures and retaining walls depicting stone. He asked me to post some photos he recently had taken, and also emailed me to say,

"Attached are a couple of photos of the backsplash stones I policed up a Lowe’s.  They are about 1’ x 2.75”, I started cutting them with a hobby saw.  It plays hell on the teeth, so changed to a small hack saw.   I have about one wall completed.  During the cutting a lot of rock dust is generated.  Have saved most of it and will use as grout."

Nice modeling, Monte, and keep progress photos coming!







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HOn30 Layout Retaining Walls



I tried modeling retaining walls typical of the Gilpin Tram right-of-way by casting them in plaster from a molded master. These looked okay, but didn't have the shadow lines I was seeking. This is from an earlier layout about 1997.



Another method I tried was casting the walls in resin, again from a handlaid master molded in silicone rubber and cast using Alumilite urethane resin. This photo was taken of the C&S ore chute transfer area, and turned out okay. However, I didn't notice until I took this photo and enlarged it that there were several air bubbles I had neglected to fill in. 

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