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 Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2020 03:42 pm
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Michael,

Thanks for the tip about using a white ink pen for chalk marks on freight cars,
I found a white ink pen with 0.4mm tip and ordered one today.


The Bloated Goat Bar looks interesting, I recall Woodie Greene models it on his layout, too.
How about more photos of your work? It looks very interesting and fun...


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Keith,

I was inspired by Woodie as I believe many are.  Even picked up a copy of Tales From The Bloated Goat. 
On the cover of the book there is a drawing of the Bloated Goat and I used that as inspiration for my sign.





The Bad Burro Saloon is in the background.





Looks better with the dirt road.  Sheriff's office is on the left. 

Needed a place to lock up all the drunks on Saturday nights.




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Keith,

Good info about chalk marks, I am old enough to remember them.
But also being old I forgot about them.

New revenue cars, we are thinking the same.
I am in the planning stage of developing 4 or 5 box cars on the 2 foot.
Once I get a diagram will send you the info.

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Monte,

I'd like to get a copy of your two-foot gauge boxcar also if you don't mind.

Thanks



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Michael,

That should not be a problem, it will be about 3 weeks. 

I am working with Bill Meredith on this project.  
He is the CAD man. 

Will keep you posted.

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Michael,

Thank you for posting the photos of your layout.

What scale is that you're modeling in?  It appears to be 1:24 or 1:35 ?


I like the composition of the scenes.





Above, this was previously posted and is a scene I'd like to model.

This is an enlargement of a Denver Public Library, Western History Collection photo,
showing a two-hole outhouse on a small bridge over Clear Creek.

This was right near the main part of town, too.
I'd imagine Clear Creek wasn't so clear back in those days!




Monte:

I'd like to see the boxcar design, too, once you get it.

Colorado Railroad Quarterly (I think they ceased publishing),
a periodical published by Gary Koehler, had in an issue, about 12 years ago,
a freelanced Gilpin Tram boxcar plan, designed by Moe Mechling.
An interesting model, if you can find the drawings.


Monte, you also mentioned you were old enough to remember chalk marks on freight cars.
So, what color were the Tiffany reefers?  :)


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Keith,

I model in 1/35 scale, 16.5mm gauge, for 1:35n2

And, Battery Powered Radio Control.


Here's a link to outhouses: 

http://www.freerails.com/view_topic.php?id=8465&forum_id=6&highlight=outhouses





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Keith,

Now, I stated I could remember the chalk marks,
but not as old as colored wood reefers.

The markings were on metal and wood box cars and most of all sugar beet gons.
Which we would jump on and throw off raw sugar beets.
Then go back and police them and yes eat them.

Thanks for the info. Will try to find the data.



Michael,

Thanks for sharing your layout photos.


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Why do you ask what color cars were back that far...? 


The evidence is obvious,

the photos show everything was black and white. 


Duh.

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Steven,

Instead of joking about the true color of DSP&P Tiffany reefers,
another good mystery is what color was the Gilpin Tram equipment?

As you noted, everything was gray!

So, was the rolling stock all tuscan/oxide red ? black ? gray ? some other combination ?
No writer back when the GT was running, ever seemed to have commented on colors.

Sometimes, modelers get lucky and see a colored postcard, and can make the assumption,
the postcard producer colored to something similar to what existed.

We have no such luck.
I've never seen a colored postcard showing GT equipment, though.


When someone on this thread gets around to inventing a time machine,
let me know - I'll have some requests for you!


Narrow-mindedly,

Keith


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