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"The Original" Kittom Lumber Co. PART TWO
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 Posted: Mon Nov 21st, 2016 12:17 am
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I use brown paint on my rail. Since my track is handlaid I have the advantage of being able to paint the rail before laying it.

I have hand painted already laid rail. It is a little tedious.

I use whatever brownish paint I can find on sale at the local hardware store. Rail around here weathers from black (brand new) through various shades of brown, often with just a tinge of red.

I remember an article from many years ago (I will see if I can dig it up) in which the author spray painted the track in varying shades.

Actually, I found it. I will see if I can scan it and post if. He uses Floquil paints, which are no longer available, but the concept is still there.

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Thanks for the help Reg. Looking forward to seeing that article. Tom:thumb:

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Hello Doc,

This is maybe my chance to help you ?. There is no fixed colour for rail or ties, it all depends on climate, location, type of timber etc. Also, the colours will vary from one stretch of track to another.

So for the High Desert areas of NV, AZ, NM etc. the rail will be more of a smooth grey mushroom and the ties will be a silvery grey-black. For wetter areas the rail will be more brown-dull red brown with orange/yellow overtones; the ties will be grey-dark brown (depending on the type of timber preservative. (photos to follow if I find them).

I hand-lay track on Real Wood (TM) ties so I tend to paint the rail first after soldering to widely spaced PCB's or, time allowing, I paint the whole rail then scrape off at the solder fixing points. I  pre-stain the wooden ties.  After assembling the whole shebang I go back and hand brush in any missed areas.

I use hand brushed oil/spirit based paints, firstly a standard commercial red oxide then varying tinting top coats according to location, age of the track. After gently scraping off any paint from the rail head I use a steel or nickel silver 'blacking' solution to take off the 'new' rail head colour. These blacking finishes are electrically conductive; as they are mostly based on selenium they are quite toxic when in liquid form - always wear gloves or wash hands immediately after any skin contact.

The rail finishes that I use :





My version of 'High Desert' rail colour for U.S. NG rail :



High Desert colours between coats; solder spot scaped off for PCB fixing :




Wetter, damper climate rail colours for my English colliery layout :



...and 'English Climate' tie colours :







High Desert rail & tie colours :

Below photo taken from D&RGW.net

Above photo near CA-Mexican border, note grey-silver rail colour.

Below photo, my version of CA, AZ, NV tie colours :




Personally, I think it best to have slight colour variations every few inches when building model track.

All photos by Salada except as indicated,

Regards,      Michael
  

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 Posted: Mon Nov 21st, 2016 04:50 pm
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I never thought of blackening the rail head.

How does that affect track cleaning? More often? Less often? Reblacken after track cleaning?

On the article I mentioned, it appeared in one of the model railroad magazines (Model Railroader, I think), so there may be a copyright issue there.

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Hi Doc Tom and all,

For the O scale standard gauge tracks on Corrimal, I used Tamiya "Deck Linoleum" colour in a spray can. At the time there was nothing on the modules apart from the track. With some suitable masking "cardboard" to protect immediately around the rails. this might be an option. It was a very quick way to get painted rails. The sleepers (ties) were then "treated" with a Woodland Scenic "weathered wood" paint pen  





It's a pity you can't see the sleepers under all that spilt coal and dropped dust :P

As far as the rail head goes check out the following photo from my Yallah layout.



This rail was last cleaned several years ago and graphite was applied to the rail head and inner gauge face of the rails with a graphite pencil.  The foot of the rail has weathered to the usual weathered nickel silver off-yellow, but the rail head maintains a grey-silvery colour of active rails. Graphite appears to significantly reduce the effect of oxidation on the rail head and also reduces the frequency of track cleaning.   

I hope that this combined approach might work for you, 



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Reg H wrote:
How does that affect track cleaning? More often? Less often? Reblacken after track cleaning?

 


Good question Reg. I have no idea because I haven't had eneough track for a long eneough time to require any track cleaning. In theory track should require less cleaning but in practice, who knows ?

John :  That's a great under the loading chute photo, excellent.

Regards,     Michael

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Salada wrote:
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John :  That's a great under the loading chute photo, excellent.

Regards,     Michael

Hi Michael,
It will make it to the Corrimal thread eventually when the Screens Building build comes to the top of the pile of backlogged build posts.

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Wow!!:glad: What an incredible response to my request about track painting. You guys:pimp: are the greatest!!.:rah:

I really appreciate the input and expertise. I will try to use some of these ideas as I proceed with painting the On30 Peco track.

Thank you so much. Doc Tom

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I've seen (but haven't done) pastel weathering for the railroad ties.  If you want to get a little more depth, or have faded and worn ties, that might be an option for you.

BTW, this is a great thread, lots of ideas!

--James:thumb:



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" You guys are the greatest !!."

" this is a great thread, lots of ideas ! "

Couldn't agree more...
...you took the words right out of my chellspecer !!

It could be snowing here soon Doc...
...I'll send you some snaps !

snow:moose:

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Hi Doc Tom & all,
I found an earlier photo of the O standard-gauge track prior to ballasting but after spraying with Tamiya "Deck Linoleum" spray pack.


Another trick I forgot to mention is to scrape the railhead and inner gauge face of the railhead clean with an old credit card before the paint fully hardens off. The paint peels off easily and can be vacuumed up later.

I hope that this helps give you a better idea of how the Tamiya spray method comes up,



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