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"The Original" Kittom Lumber Co. PART TWO
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Neat bridge and trestle structures and I do like the way the terrain is developing, very natural looking.

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Yes, sir.  That is the way they did it.
I have photos.
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Reg H wrote: Yes, sir.  That is the way they did it.Indeed!




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Great looking pictures .Thanks for sharing. Am laying Peco On30 track and turnouts on a new layout. Have been advised to make some modifications to the turnouts for better operations in DCC that will insure problem free running for years to come. Have you modified your Peco Electrofrog turnouts as many others have or left them as they are. Peco says they are designed to work out of the package in DCC. Many others say after a bit, there will be problems with the turnouts. Do some modifications now and eliminate those problems that could occur down the road is their advice. Would appreciate how you installed your Peco On30 turnouts and wired them for your operation of same. Thanks Michael

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Michael P wrote: Great looking pictures .Thanks for sharing. Am laying Peco On30 track and turnouts on a new layout. Have been advised to make some modifications to the turnouts for better operations in DCC that will insure problem free running for years to come. Have you modified your Peco Electrofrog turnouts as many others have or left them as they are. Peco says they are designed to work out of the package in DCC. Many others say after a bit, there will be problems with the turnouts. Do some modifications now and eliminate those problems that could occur down the road is their advice. Would appreciate how you installed your Peco On30 turnouts and wired them for your operation of same. Thanks Michael
Hi Michael,Peco electrofrog turnouts work great right out of the box and require no modification to the turnout at all for DCC use.. What is required is careful WIRING. The Peco folks have good diagrams with the turnouts and also online on how to do this.
I am very impressed with their product line and love the fact that my DCC/ sound equipped Heisler can crawl through the turnouts without missing a beat or a chuff.
Doc Tom:2t:

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Lee B wrote: Reg H wrote: Yes, sir.  That is the way they did it.Indeed!



That is a very cool picture that I will save for more prototypical inspiration. I love the resourcefulness of these early day loggers!!!!  Dr Tom:2t: 

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Great to hear. No shorts or pauses . Good stuff. How did you wire your turnouts if you would care to share. Thanks Michael

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Michael P wrote: Great to hear. No shorts or pauses . Good stuff. How did you wire your turnouts if you would care to share. Thanks Michael
Here is what I learned from the Peco website:" All PECO turnouts are suitable for use on a DCC layout, and to ensure that short-circuits cannot occur and also so that turnouts are not 'power-routing',insulated rail-joiners must be placed on both frog rails of every point........ If you still get stuck on where to place the track power feeds and rail breaks we can help. Just send us a clear drawing of your layout plan, which allows us enough space to add the track power feeds and rail breaks, and we will mark these on for you. Please enclose an SAE for return of your plan."
    Basically two insulated joiners are placed at the  ends of the two rails  leaving from the frog. That is all I did and it worked well.:old dude: Hope this helps.
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    Thank you Doc Tom . I already had that part figured out. I have seen and read of many others who have modified the Peco Electrofrog On30 turnouts for use in DCC. There are many discussions online regarding the modification of Electrofrog turnouts. It seems this is necessary for a lot of people who have the turnouts installed for many years and problems occur after a period of time. To eliminate these problems in the future they advise modifying the turnout. They also advise powering the frog with a Tam Valley Frog Juicer to power the frog. The juicer also provides correct polarity to the frog itself.
    How do you throw your turnouts... By hand or using a switch. The juicer is supposed to also eliminate having to use a switch and you can hand throw the turnout using the slide bar that comes on a Peco turnout. Have not tried any of these myself to this point. Thanks for your information to date. May just send you a diagram. I live in Canada and don't have an US stamp . Will try something in a post or email. Thanks again Michael

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    Michael P wrote: Thank you Doc Tom . I already had that part figured out. I have seen and read of many others who have modified the Peco Electrofrog On30 turnouts for use in DCC. There are many discussions online regarding the modification of Electrofrog turnouts. It seems this is necessary for a lot of people who have the turnouts installed for many years and problems occur after a period of time. To eliminate these problems in the future they advise modifying the turnout. They also advise powering the frog with a Tam Valley Frog Juicer to power the frog. The juicer also provides correct polarity to the frog itself.
    How do you throw your turnouts... By hand or using a switch. The juicer is supposed to also eliminate having to use a switch and you can hand throw the turnout using the slide bar that comes on a Peco turnout. Have not tried any of these myself to this point. Thanks for your information to date. May just send you a diagram. I live in Canada and don't have an US stamp . Will try something in a post or email. Thanks again Michael

    I had read and viewed the videos on modifying the turnouts but took the simple approach and so far no problems. Good point about years down the road though. 
    I throw the points by hand but am looking at prototype pictures from 1910 to see what they used back then and will possibly use old style switchstands, "harp" etc..
    Interesting discussion I wonder what other experiences with Peco turnouts modelers have had???L:
    Doc tom

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