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 Posted: Sun Sep 18th, 2016 02:23 am
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Woodie,
You and I may be kindred spirit there, plus I am stubborn. :D

Do you find an advantage in your stuff (1:35, yes?) vs. the larger 1:22.5 or even 1:29?

That is one reason I am considering Piko vs. LGB, generally 1:29 vs. generally 1:22.5.

But there is so much conflicting information, I feel the need to see them for myself, but that gets pricey. I am most of the way there though.

Maybe folks have experience with Bachmann 1:20.3 and LGB?  Can anyone give an observation about how these two look together?  Bachmann F scale stuff is almost as varied and cool as the On30 stuff.

Same with 1:24, does it look OK with LGB?

Then the extreme, 1:20.3 and 1:24?

As I have stated, and am not THAT concerned with exacting appearance; but I do not want stuff that is just way out of whack with each other and reality.  I would like the pieces to be reasonably representative of prototype and able to conduct operations with a mix of realism and enjoyment.

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 Posted: Sun Sep 18th, 2016 02:35 am
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I just found this:

Bachmann:
  • "Spectrum" locos and some industrial rolling stock is 1:20.3.
  • "Big Haulers" series is 1:22.5, as is most their other rolling stock, though it may be inaccurately modeled from the prototype.
LGB:
  • (Older) Narrow gauge - 1:22.5
  • (Older) Standard gauge - Unknown, estimated at 1:26
  • Newer items in 1:29
Piko
  • Ranges from 1:27 - 1:29


  are these correct statements? found it in the dccwiki, last edited Sep 2014.

http://www.dccwiki.com/G_scale

actually I have a Big Hauler 10 wheeler, and even if it is not true to prototype I can measure the dimensions!  same with the LGB porter if I can find its prototype (if it exists).

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 Posted: Sun Sep 18th, 2016 04:34 am
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Howdy Helmut, to answer one question, I model in 1:35 (military modeling scale) because HO/On30 track gauge becomes pretty much 24" gauge in that scale. I have been in model trains since 1960 or so and have built almost every scale. I love the little 2 foot gauge railroads and going this route is a natural, for me. It's not for everyone however, you must build almost everything from scratch.
Since you are not concerned as much with "scale-ness" but rather operation, you shouldn't worry about 1:24/ 1:22.5/ "LGB" scale/ 1:29...etc. However, when compared to 1:20.3 scale, these others are noticably smaller. Actually, the 45MM gauge (LGB, 1.22.5, 1:20.3) is a narrow gauge, the 45MM gauge is standard gauge in 1:32/1:29 scale! Whew, I'm confused enough as it is anyway.

Have fun and run a train today!
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 Posted: Sun Sep 18th, 2016 04:42 am
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yep - got all that. my concern is how do those different scales look next to each other, and how reliable are the manufacturers at sticking with the scales - as Helmut #1 pointed out G can be interpreted as Gummi (yes, think Gummi bears!). i have tried searching for some images but there are not a lot forthcoming.

believe it or not I am about to set up the Bachmann loop I have for my daughter and to play with the Stainz and Porter for a bit.

gonna make me a double shot latte first though!

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 Posted: Sun Sep 18th, 2016 11:29 pm
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Playmobil will take a good few train-wrecks before it's time for the scrap-yard.

:moose:

The only thing I don't like about Playmobil is...
...if the dog BITES IT the Vets. dentistry bill is very expensive !!

Here's a pretty AWESOME TOPIC wild west trains & ALL !!
http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=10996.0

:moose:

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Well, you can beef that up a little bit:

Goes nice with LGB's coaches...

of course there's a fully detailed cab with all the armatures present..



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 Posted: Mon Sep 19th, 2016 07:50 am
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very cool actually. i wonder if any 'real' model railroaders would come over to an operating session if I did everything in Playmobil!?!

:bg:

Is Playmobil UV resistant?

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Playmobil is NUCLEAR ATTACK resistant !!

Don't worry about phony overscale 'real' operators...
...the little 3" plastic folk can run their own railroad !!

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Only that Playmobil now have switched to BPRC on plastic wheels in the meantime.
That loco featured was track-powered, as was a very well-looking diesel switcher, and has become a collector's item. Track was LGB's.
They abandoned cooperation with LGB, and offered BPRC ( 27MHz, 4 different channels, 4,8V NiMH ) running on their own plastic track. There were two different steamers, , a railbus, and of course all the cars. The battery cases were plugable, so one could have a set of spares ready to exchange them for full ones. I still have a loco and some cars, they run very well. The different channels were selected by a pair of colour-coded quartz plugs, one for the Rx and Tx respectively. Runnig them together did not show any problems. Then the locos were withdrawn, and  a red DB-Cargo 'juice-jack' plus an IC-like train were offered. The track system changed also to imitating roadbed. The control was still on 27 MHz.
Now they have a 2.4 GHz freight set w/ sound with a very poor ( at least in my eyes ) control offering only 4 speed steps and that sound is not well synchronized. The kids will love it anyway. Of course there's a battery compartment with a lid screwed on, no way for NiMHs any longer.
One final word: The former products could be easily taken apart and modified - the new loco with its lousy receiver is "tamper-resistant". You can take it apart only once:f:

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Oh well, that figures. Progress and product improvement, eh?

BTW - did not mean to offend anyone with my comment above that is into true scale modeling, details, etc. But I can imagine how some would take offense to model railroading with Playmobil.

I think I will take a cue from Herb (although that post might have gotten lost in the crash) and just put some On30 into play and run some trains and see how I get on. I am considering:

-limiting the layout area so the On30 stuff does not look too small
-just use Atlas HO track with is a huge discount over any 1 gauge track but still able to be used outdoors
-elevate all track off the ground on a pvc raised bed
-I can do this for a fraction of the cost of any G scale layout

I know I might have some frustrations due to the track, but I would rather get to doing something anyway (I have been quite busy finishing my garage - workspace and storage - but that is almost done and I will have time for doing instead of only reading). If all else fails, I will have enough On30 stuff for an indoor layout. Plus there are a lot of inexpensive but cool Bachmann On30 locos.



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