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 Posted: Thu Oct 6th, 2016 08:05 am
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You are thinking about a narrow gauge Porter with a tender? Here you go, the real thing.


And here's my little Porter with r/c and battery inside the cab. It has been "upsceled" to 1:35 but the cab is just a mite larger than the O scale cab was. The board is under the cab roof and the 2 cell 7.4 volt Li Poly battery is in the cab on the "fireman's" side. This little lokie had a tender like the first photo for a number of years.

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 Posted: Thu Oct 6th, 2016 08:12 am
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 Posted: Thu Oct 6th, 2016 08:46 am
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Thx Woodie, that pic of real thing is exactly what i am looking for; a good reference to select a tender, or try building one. The backwoods guys have a lot of nice kits, but they are not cheap AND they have to be shipped here.

Did some test runs with two of my three loco's on the bench tonight, rather my daughter did. :) She loves them.

Man that Porter is T-I-N-Y.

The second Porter is new in box shrink wrapped - not gonna open until I can fully commit to On30 - but I could not pass up $46 shipped.

My wife agrees the On30 stuff is small, she likes the full O scale and the G scale, but she is warming up to the smaller layout not taking up most of the yard. If I did G or O it would probably be like a giant shelf layout around at least 2 sides of the yard. On30 will be like a long shelf layout along one wall. I have 50 ft. x 2-4ft (it varies) to play with. If you recall the pic of my yard, it will be on the 'top' portion of the back along the lag wall - so elevated for easier access (and a huge slope for a zig zag if I feel like picking away some solid granite in some places).



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" The second Porter is new in box shrink wrapped - not gonna open until I can fully commit to On30 "

:old dude:
I remember that M.I.B $1000 brass loco I bought back in '56
They'd only just invented that darn shrink-wrap stuff then
I opened it 2 years later
The damn %$&£@! had sold me a house-brick !!

I'd open it now
Check you aint bin stiffed !

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 Posted: Fri Oct 14th, 2016 11:03 pm
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Guys,
After obtaining 3 On30 loco's and playing with them for a bit and looking at the others I have accumulated I have decided to NOT do On30.

I am going to do O scale, or traditional/semi-scale.  The On30 stuff is just plain too small.

I am now digging into O gauge/scale and learning as much as I can there.  What is cheap, what is not, etc.

To start I need track, and it looks like I am going to buy traditional O27 track and modify it by adding ties to make it look much better.

I will start a thread in the O forum here about track.  I have learned a lot in the last few days about it.



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Howdy Helmut, if you just buy "O27 track" then you can't run most "scale" locomotives. O27 has a radius of 13.5", less than most HO can curve. Go "O72" or so or if you want to add ties, look for GARGRAVES track. It has nice wood ties and flex track is available also.

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 Posted: Sat Oct 15th, 2016 02:10 am
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Woody,
Thx.

Yep - got the O radius stuff - why is O the only one that is labeled by diameter?!? But my early thoughts are to have a "narrow gauge" section of the layout at the mines/logging area where the tight curve are and a "standard gauge" area of the layout where some bigger locos and other rolling stock can run.

I need to buy the track cheap; Gargarves is the antithesis of that (although Atlas is the super-antithesis!). Plus that wood will not hold up outside. I got cnfirmation today from Gartner The Train Doctor that the wood ties are Bass wood.



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Lionel had that idea about curves, probably so Dad could know how big a circle of track would be under the Christmas tree without having to get out a slide rule. They are the only ones to measure that way (I believe). As for the guy saying that basswood ties won't last outside, the handlaid track on bass ties that I had for some years in the back yard worked pretty well and my ties were smaller than Gargraves. early on I sprayed the track and wood structures with Thompson's Water Seal...maybe that was the key.
If you really want cheap then buy .125 rail by the bundle (33-3' sticks) and cut your own ties from bass or pine, etc. and lay the track yourself. There is a great price difference and the satisfaction is much greater.

Have fun...
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Given the cost of track is a big decider for you, have you given any thought to making it yourself.
I'm not sure if they make code 148 aluminium rail but they do make code 250.
The section is bit big for O scale but outdoors some things work out OK in scenery that is 12" to the foot anyway.
Ali is usually much cheaper than brass or n/s.

One of our modellers over here, Ralph Holden, has had outdoor 1n42 (that's 1:32 on O gauge) layouts with balsa sleepers for decades. He creosotes them and then mixes up a mixture of concrete and ballast and wets it once in place. This last step is what he attributes to his success outdoors. I think he contributes to the US Garden Railway magazine at times.

One of the most effective ways to cut costs with track in any gauge is to make your own points. Having decided on battery/radio the electrical issues would be non existent.

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 Posted: Sat Oct 15th, 2016 08:09 am
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Bob,
Thx. I have thought about it but I would like to get some experience first. It depends upon how things go and time available vs. desire to get things up and running. Interesting on the balsa rails idea. I wonder if that could be modified to Western Red Cedar like I am looking at for the ties as it should hold up better.



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