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 Posted: Mon Oct 3rd, 2016 05:26 am
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Ok guys, I am starting to accumulate track.  I am generally going with Atlas code 100 but I have a couple of questions about compatibility and functionality.  All the track I am buying so far (second hand) is nickel silver with black ties, except for one small batch of brass where I was not paying attention!

Can Peco HO track also be used along with the Atlas?  I have read that Peco is code 100 as well, or do they make other sizes?

I do think the Peco track has wider tie spacing to have an earlier period look?  is that correct?  Are their ties also black?  I do believe it is also UV resistant, does anyone know differently?

What about switches?  I do not yet think I am up to making my own switches so I want something off the shelf.  I may delve into Herb's method later if this hobby really takes off - right now I want to get some track laid and run something (I have a lot of other stuff to do before running something as well).  What switches will I be best off star5ing our with?  I need them cheap though.  Are Atlas snap switches OK?  Custom line?  Peco?  others?

I would like to reserve the right to ask more questions about trackwork later!

As usual - thank you for your replies and indulging me.

Last edited on Tue Oct 4th, 2016 06:52 pm by Helmut F



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Hi Helmut


PECO 'Setrack' is Code-100 (rigid, non bendable, sectional track parts)


PECO 'Streamline' comes in various rail-codes, the 'straights' are flexi-track.
Code-100 I believe is the OO standard.
Code-82/3 is used in the HO finer-scale track; switches & flexi-track.
Also produced is a 'finescale' range, I believe the rail-code is about Code-55
Tie-spacing is 'similar' to Atlas & most other HO brands.


The PECO track with the wider tie-spacing is their 'O-16.5' range, otherwise known as 'Crazy Track'
It is produced with Code-100 rail.
A simple range, 1-Yard flexi & 3 switches, Right, Left, Wye; the radius is 24"


In a nutshell :-

If you want to get track down, quick, easy & get trains running, stick to 1 brand
(you're kinda asking for trouble doing otherwise, although YES you can link across brands)
In the U.S I would buy the popular, cheap, etc. etc. Atlas snap-track.
Downside is, the ties are spaced for HO and don't exactly look brilliant for On30.

If you want to use 'flexi-track'
(which needs, cutting & fixing down)
Then for OUTDOOR USE, personaly I would get PECO O-16.5 'Crazy Track'.
Some people will criticize the tie-spacing/size as looking wrong; but it looks a whole lot better than using HO track for On30.

For OUTDOOR use, Micro-Engineering(TM) track, which some prefer to the PECO for On30, is NOT an option.
It is Code-83 and far too fragile & thin/finescale.


In case you didn't know; 'Code' is the rail-height in thousanths of an inch.

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Si,
Thank you. Yes, I know what code is but there are a LOT of people selling track, used and new, that do not! So it never hurts to reiterate.

I understand about the Atlas HO tie spacing, but I am not too concerned with that aspect (I am a little, but my goal is operations and enjoyment, not rivet counting, etc.). I have too little free time.

I will see if I can even find any of the Peco 0-16 stuff.

Oh, what about switches? Are the Atlas snap track switches OK? I have seen some people have complained about them. Is the custom line that much better?

Or, am I better off just making my own anyway? Is it less expensive? (I am finding some good deals on used switches)



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Just get the biggest, chunkyest, strongest, cheapest ATLAS(TM) track you can beg, borrow or steal.

Snap it together.

Job done !

If the custom-line is 83 thousandths of an inch DON'T BOTHER...
...just buy the 100 thousandths of an inch 'Snap Track'(TM) !!

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" I do believe it is also UV resistant, does anyone know differently ? "

Hi again Helmut

I just put a spare bit of PECO track outside on the terrace.

Send me a PM in 2021...
...I'll let you know.



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The custom line is also both code 100 and code 83. If I find them cheap enough I might give them a try to see if I notice a difference.

I will put an appt in my calendar. :)

I am not finding any used Peco available, so I will probably stick with Atlas code 100 as I have been doing.



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Just another thought.

:moose:

I have considered a fast & funky outdoor 16.5mm track myself.
( I might have time by 2021 to do it ! )

You may have trouble finding this in the USA...
...although it was sold there & more so in Canada I believe.

' Tri-ang Railways '(TM) ... ' Super 4 '(TM) ... sectional track.

It was made in England during the swingin' '60s
& is built like a brick outhouse !!
( 'SOME' would claim it to be THE BEST sectional track EVER MADE ! )

The rail profile is Code-150
The rail material is SOLID STEEL !
The moulded tie-base is so thick & strong, an elephant could step on it & probably hurt it's foot !
The ties are very widely spaced...
...which looked totaly crap in HO/OO...
...but stick a Bastardmann On30 Porter on it & it looks funky as hell !
Also the flange-ways are as wide as an airport-runway, so the Bastardmann wheel flanges might just pass through without derailing !

If you look on eBay in the UK, you can buy a whole BUCKET of it, for less than the price of 1 On30 freight car.
It's SO CHEAP in fact, it may well be worth paying the shipping to the USA to get hold of it.
There's probably some on USA eBay though.

Don't tell everyone, the price will SKY ROCKET !!

Never mind 'Mint In Box'...
...just think 'Outside The Box' !!

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Cool - that is a nice tidbit. I will take a look.



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A few quick notes on the use of the Atlas code 100 HO track on an On30 layout...

First off, availability and price. Enough said there. No shortage of sectional and flex track to be had from virtually anywhere. It's a real pain when you cannot get that one tiny crucial piece from your local brick and mortar store.

Secondly, if you really want to get fancy, just ballast over the ties, leaving the rail exposed. Many narrow gauge lines had borderline shoddy track maintenance.

Lastly, I would not overlook Atlas code 83 track. Also available in all manner of sectional and flex. I actually started out that way, then, in sections, removed the plastic ties, kept the rail and handlaid it onto On30 ties when the look of the HO ties bugged me.



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Helmut:

Use the Atlas track, flex or Snap Code 100. Wander the On30 thread and you will see photos of several layouts that use the HO track. Just bury the ties in ballast.

I would stick to the CustomLine turnouts.

Just my $0.02.

All of my track is handlaid Code 83 and half my turnouts are built from scratch. I like the look and I enjoy laying track. But it is not the way to go if you have limited time and want to get something up and running in days instead of years.

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