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 Posted: Tue Oct 4th, 2016 03:05 am
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So I've been wanting to build a layout for a long time, but lack of permanent living area, work and isolation has hampered all attempts. Since joining freerails ive lived in 2 countries, 3 states 6 or 7 towns and a dozen different houses. As a result my hobby time has been spent researching, recording ideas, experimenting with different hobbies and techniques and starting many projects (finishing few).

By doing a lot of traveling I've got to see a lot of things I'd like to recreate in miniature and my inspiration for a model railroad draws from Arizona to New Zealand, the Rocky Mountains and the Great Basin deserts.

I would like to model in HO but the space and cost is prohibitive at this time, so I've looked into many alternatives such as HOn30, modules, N scale, micro layouts and have found a lot cool ideas, a lot of them right here on Freerails. This is an awesome community and you guys are the best!

Tired of not making any progress, I sat down and thought about what I need to do to to get out of the armchair. knowing that I can't stick to one prototype and like to model whatever I see that I like (one unfinished project is a 1:144 scale B-25 converted to an aerial firefighter, how's that for random?)

1. I'd love to model New Zealand Railways in some capacity.
2. 3-foot gauge prototypes in the 1880-1920 era are my favorite wether it be the EBT, RGS, the SPng in the Owens Valley.
3. I do like the modern era and would like to model a railroad like AZ's Copper Basin
4. I want to have a railroad that has a job, hauling stuff to places
5. I also like to watch trains go in circles
6. I have no interest or the resources in DCC and wiring, so that means RC, which leads to...
7. I'd like to build 1:87 scale RC vehicles. I like the idea of forwarding freight to the railhead...
8. I want to represent interests of mine in modeling and that includes architecture, aviation, ranching and mining to name a few.

With that list in mind I thought about how I could accomplish that, and came up with a pretty simple solution, TTn3.5. Reasoning being

1. NZ120 already has a small and dedicated following in New Zealand.

2. A lot of N scale rolling stock can stand in or could be easily converted without to much fuss, especially when your willing to compromise a little, especially since other alternatives would require building from scratch or modifying very expensive models.

Example: 40 feet in N scale is 30 feet in TT. The biggest noticeable difference in a 40' n scalel box car and a 30' narrow gauge boxcar is width. Also, Microtrains Archbar trucks scale up to have the same wheelbase as D&RGW 3'7" trucks and with some extra bits of styrene can be modified to look close enough to the prototype.

3. Using 9mm gauge track scales out 42" inches in 1:120 scale. Perfect for NZR prototypes and a scale 6" does not bother me for 3' gauge protypes. Laying N gauge track allows the flexibility to run any HOn30 or N scale equipment that may catch my eye.

4. Models from 10mm and 15mm wargaming could be a scource for figures and a few vehicles. 1:144 scale aircraft don't look terrible in comparison to 1:120 trains and where a 1:87 scale Peterbuilt would look real weird on a TT scale layout, a HO scale pickup could fill in as a 2-Ton truck and I think I could be forgiven for the discrepancy in scale especially if said pickup can drive around...

5. My original TTn3.5 test models are turning out great. Part of the fun has been using non traditional materials and methods. I'm a few details and some paint away from completing a RGS 3 window short caboose, a 30' D&RG box car. For my RGS #20 I've got a cab and domes built and am working on the pilot and stack, but I have yet to build the tender. Im researching on the RC gear I'll need to fit in it before I dive into it. I'm also trying to get an operational ore car to haul live loads.

6. I've had more fun scratch building than building kits, and at this scale the finer (and more finicky) details can be ignored and can still result in a credible model. In HO, nuts and bolt bothered me when they couldn't be found, in TT, not so much.

I think it's kind of a shame that TT isn't more relevant with the size it is. This summer in cow camp, I figured a club or a person like George Sellios could build the entire RGS in it's entirety from Ridgway to Durango, the entire engine roster and most of the rolling stock in this scale!

I'm still a ways from a layout, but by focusing on certain projects and being open to non traditional ideas I'm closer than I've been in a long time.

I'd love to share some photos, but I'm stuck using an iPhone so if any of you guys have any ideas on how to make that work I'm all ears! I'm considering starting a blog and linking here, but I'm stuck using a mobile device.



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 Posted: Tue Oct 4th, 2016 03:38 am
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Howdy Buck, this statement may cause outrage but here 'tis:
MY OPINION is that TT should be more popular than N (1/10"=12" vs 2MM=12") and S should be where HO is today (3/16"=12" vs 3.5MM=12"). Maybe it's just the physical size, heft, mass, etc. Well, that's just my take...now I will put on my bullet-proof vest and take a walk.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 4th, 2016 03:48 am
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Well you won't be dodging bullets from me. Those New Zealand modelers have done some incredible work in those scales. If I had the resources S scale would be my pick, but seeing how I wasn't really happy with HO...



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Hi Buck :wave:

As my current distraction from 'reality', is bashing & scratching '60s Tri-ang HO into 1:35n2...
...I can see in an instant, that standard-gauge N, bashed into narrow-gauge TT, makes perfect sense !

As for a B25 fire plane, the same.
I have a WWII Morris Quad gun tractor here in 1:35 scale. :Salute:
When I finally get a round tuit...
...my prototype in fact, is from the N.Z. Forestry Service, who used numerous ex WWII Morris Quads in various roles as fire-fighting trucks !!



Anyways...
...Posting photos from an Apple iPhone. L:

To Post a photo from an iPhone, you will first need to 'resize' the photo.
The best size to Post, is a photo 800-pixels wide.
There is a limit to file-size, for a Freerails photo upload, of 0.5mb.
800x600, or 800x--- if it's a 'widescreen' photo, is well under this at around 0.1 - 0.2mb.

If you have a photo-editor App. for the iPhone, you can use it to resize the photo before uploading it to Freerails.
I would recommend the App./software called 'Pixlr'.
It is at http://www.pixlr.com & probably on the Apple App. Store as well.
A great FUN, FREE & FUNKY photo editing program ! :P

You can upload a photo in your Post, by going to the bottom of the Posting window & pressing the 'Browse' button, to select your photo from the iPhone folder you have saved the 'resized' version to.
Once you have the photos file-name showing at the bottom of the Posting window, just press 'Post Reply' as normal & your photo will be on it's way to Freerails !! :)

There is another way to Post photos to Freerails, using the Freerails Gallery...
...but the 'G' button to do this, may or may not, show up in your iPhone window.
I have a Motorola so I can't check this.

Try the attachment method first & have a look for the 'G' button as well.
If it's visible to you, it's at the far-right of the 2nd-row of Icons, at the top of the Posting window.
If you only see 1 row of Icons & no 'G' button, then attachments are the only way of uploading to Freerails.

Try it out & let us know if you see the 'G' or not. ???

Looking forward to the pix. !!

:moose:

All the best

Cheers

Si.






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Si, thanks a lot for the insight I'll post some photos soon!
Theres a Museum by Lake Wanaka in New Zealand that had some of those quad tractors. They built them into all kinds of handy equipment. That could be a hobby unto itself.



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W C Greene wrote: TT should be more popular than N (1/10"=12" vs 2MM=12") and S should be where HO is today (3/16"=12" vs 3.5MM=12").
Ah, so you're one of those abolitionists who hold up signs like "Down with metrics, we don't want foreign rulers!"
BTW, that 2mm/12" fuss has been introduced (again) by your British Cousins, and scales out to 1:152. They loved their 1:76 00 so much that they wanted that then-new cat-toy to be exactly half the size of it. True N scale is 1:160!



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Mmm... L:

I don't wish to ruffle any rivets :P
But
I thought the Brits. did N-'Gauge' in 1:148 :dt:

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@Si
Of course - but I didn't want to make it too complicated:

Again, as usual in GB, for a given track gauge to represent standard gauge there have to be at least two scales:
There's a 2mm Association who advocate this true scale ratio 1:152 for 2mm/ft on 9.5mm track in order to keep up the memory of (British) Lone Star Trains ( cf. #5 ), who were marketed well before Arnold came up with 1:160 on 9mm track.
The Industry wasn't satisfied with this and wanted to benefit from 9mm track, but heaven forbid to choose that ratio - 1:148 was preferred - helped to fit the motors into that smallish loading gauge anyway -
And then there are some continental modellers who really adhere to 1:160 but keep a low profile due to recent developments.

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Some help and links to sources can be found on ttnut forum. Have you seen the Possum Valley?

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Thanks Helmut I had not scene the Possum Valley. Is TT narrow gauge at all popular in Europe?



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