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My first Brass Locomotive HOn3 Shay
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 Posted: Tue Nov 1st, 2016 10:34 pm
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I've always wanted two locomotives, a Brass one, and a Shay, so why not both in one shot. My second locomotive, I know it's going to be a bear to clean up, tune up and get ready to run on DCC, but at the price I couldn't say no. Ever since I saw one running at High Country Brass shop near my house in Denver, Colorado around 1985, I've wanted one of these, and now I have one, sure it needs painting, and a good clean up at the least, but I couldn't be happier right now, here are a few photos I took this afternoon of it outside on my patio.
Brass 2 Truck Shay Locomotive - if photos stop loading. 

Sorry all my photos were highjacked by PhotoBucket

I will be changing over to another photo site NOT photobucket.
Fresh out of the original box it's been stored in for more than 30 years. :glad:

Last edited on Mon Jul 10th, 2017 06:27 pm by Chriss H



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Nice find...looks like a PFM Class B model. A little tuning and some paint and she'll be great! The power train is what Bachmann SHOULD have made for their HO & On30 jobs...metal instead of a bunch of plastic. She may have been stored for 30 years but she's probably a good bit over 50! Well kept I would say.

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Woodie, I'm thinking it's almost as old as me! According to my PFM book I'm guessing it is a 1967-1969 model. It could be a latter production model, but seeing the other items that came from this estate sale I would say late 1960's for sure.

I don't want to put power to it until I've lubed it up and checked the innards first. I will need to get some good nano oil, and a 12 volt transformer, as it's not safe for my new DCC power system.

Any ideas to a decent DCC decoder would be welcomed. I'd like to build a water tank like you have on your post Gilpin train. I'm sure that could be a good sound enclosure as well to take a sound decoder and speaker.

I know you said you built it based on Keith Pashina's plans. I wonder if he ever published those? I searched my NGSL library with no luck yet for the plans on a good water car that fits the Gilpin Tram RR era.



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Depending on how much you want to dip into it, consider replacing what is almost certainly an open frame motor with a can motor. That should improve slow speed operation and also reduce the amp draw to the point where you could use an N scale decoder. Might also free up a bit of space for a speaker is you want to go with sound.

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Chriss, Keith's plans were in the Gazette some years back. The water car drawings are in Hollenback's little Gilpin book and the big old Gilpin Era book. Actually, Kieth's plans were for the SCPA&M which didn't have a water car so the plans there don't show such a car. Good luck, let me know if you need more precise info.

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Thanks I have both books, so I'll look into them.

Unfortunately, today I was downloading some new Gilpin photo finds, when my computer decided it was time to have a catastrophic hard drive failure on my document drive, I lost everything I put on it since October 5 (I hadn't backed up since then. Oh well, it was mostly my research on the Gilpin Tram and stuff for my layout plans, which I should be able to recreate. Thankfully I hadn't formatted the flash card I took the photos of the new loco yet, so I don't have to re-shoot those again. DOH, I just looked and realized I'm going to have to reinstall the NWSL files again before I can look for that article. I'm sure I'll keep finding little things I'm missing all week now.

ebtnut - thanks that's an interesting idea. I think I'll wait and see how it runs (if at all) first. But the N scale can motor is a thought.

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Chriss,

That's a fine-looking shay (well actually, all shays are fine-looking, in my opinion)!

It would look good pulling a string of little ore cars around your layout.

Sorry to hear about your hard drive crash - those are never fun. If there's any information you need Gilpin-related, let me know and I'll try to help you.

And, I apologize for going off-topic here, but I did publish water tank plans, but in Light Iron Digest, not NGSL. I'll work in some info on the separate Gilpin Tram thread here on FreeRails, and let's get back to discussing those wonderful shays!

Keith

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 Posted: Fri Nov 4th, 2016 09:39 am
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Keith that would be great on your water tank car. I too agree there really isn't an ugly Shay built, I love watching them run.

P.S. I did contact Barry (per your recommendation) and was able to get a six pack of the early Gilpin ore car run, so I'll have something to pull at least.



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