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 Posted: Wed Nov 23rd, 2016 04:53 pm
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Rick S
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W C Greene wrote:

just get ahold of a loop of HO sectional track that you can set up on a table or even the floor and just sit & watch her git after it.

Have fun and run a train...today!
Woodie


I agree with Woodie. My problem is priorities,not space, but I want to run trains!

Rick

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Rick:

That works.

Speaking of running trains, I was having some frustrations with DCC and screamed for help over on the DCC forum.

Somebody came up with the suggestion of using graphite pencils after a thorough track cleaning.

MAN! Does that work! It is a major pleasure being able to dive into the basement and spend a few minutes running trains. In the past, every operating session, even just after a few days, required some touch-up track cleaning.

No more.

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Reg,

That is the first view of the Printer Stand & Train Storage Shelves Logging and Naval Stores Railway Company.

Temporary name. :)

Right now, the standard gauge Christmas layout is a priority. When I have that ready in a couple of weeks, I can start planning benchwork for the Ramsey Springs & Red Creek Lumber Co.

By the way, I realize the Fleischmann Magic Train car is a toy in Germany, but I think it's funky. :)

Rick

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Quite true, Rick!  I have a hollow core door that I put a grass mat over to make a temporary train layout or a train show display.  Here's the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUqXMu3LWtQ

No doubt I'll have a blast with this while I'm building rolling stock and structures!

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" the Fleischmann Magic Train car is a toy in Germany, but I think it's funky." :pimp:

It's extra large beer-jugs all round, when the Fleischmann Magic Train takes to the rails. [toast]
Apply plenty of GRAPHITE to repel lager spills !


" MAN ! Does that work ! " :bg:

Reg, I think your locos could do a 1/4 mile in under 10 after a good ol' GRAPHITING ! :brill:
Keep up the pencil pushing !

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What's your 1st M.O.W car going to be James ? L:



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Well, Si, I suppose every railroad had at least one material car, so that's on the list.

I'm thinking along the lines of a modified flat-car with a small storage shack and a swiveling derrick crane.  Nothing big, but a small crane would be useful for loading and unloading bulky materials.

As for a prototype MOW car, At the Fort Missoula Museum, they have this:


This quirky little guy was used to transport logging crews and equipment up and down the line, as well as a mobile office!

Far cheaper, and maneuverable than a passenger car:


And if you don't believe this to be a prototype, here's a historical photo (please note that the photo had been reversed, since the shay is most likely not a lefty)



This should be a fairly straightforward build, considering it looks like a single wide mobile home on rails, but I'll need a suitable chassis, probably from a trolley, to use in a kitbash.


What's best about this is that it was made by the shop-crew in Bonner, and there were two of them, if I recall!

--James

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Hi James :wave:

Nice looking prototype.

I see where you're coming from, with the trolley chassis.
The 2 axles are mounted quite close together.
Looks like 1/4ish along the car length.

This could be a problem on a model, if you want to go round typical tightish curves.
You need to consider 'overhang'.

The couplers at the end of a car with wheels mounted like that will swing out a LONG WAY on curves !
Much much more than the couplers on your 4-4-0 pilot & tender will.
It is SURE to be an operational issue !

You might want to consider checking this, and not go for a 'trolley' underframe.
Axles mounted nearer the car ends, or trucks, would keep the overhang to a minimum.




I have found checking 'overhang' with an upside down setrack curve is very good.

You can see clearly the difference between a typical 4-wheel & truck type car build.

My 4-wheel car is NOWHERE near as extreme as your prototype...
...but as you can see, there is considerable 'overhang' between the 2 cars.
Here, the car with the trucks, is actually worse for 'overhang'.

In this case, it is just about OK.
In your case, it won't be.

Funny enough, my first ever car build was a 4-wheeler car.
I screwed up !
Spent ages making a finely detailed car, that had HUGE 'overhang' & wouldn't run good.

That's one thing I won't be doing again !! :f:

:moose:

Si.

The 4-wheeler underframe in the pic. is a vintage diecast Tri-ang Railways(TM) one.
I've cut these as well, so as to use the axle-boxes at any mounting points I choose.

There are plenty of other choices out there for axle-box bashing as well.
Making an underframe for them out of Plastruct or wood is easy enough.



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Yeah, overhang could be an issue.  Thankfully I won't be doing any circuit-type layouts, all shelf layouts, point to point, so I should be okay.  If I need to, I can always shorten the cab from the prototype so that the wheels are closer to the ends.

Also, that crew transport car is self-propelled, so no need to worry about hooking it up behind a locomotive.

What I will probably do is either take a Bachmann On30 trolley and build a new cab for it at roughly the same dimensions as the Bachmann model, or take one of those high-rail buses that are HO scale and use that for the base.



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Arh ! :bg:

All is now clear as ....

You didn't say it had a MOTOR ! :shocked:

Kinda of a 'slow' speeder, by the looks of.

The trolley car chassis now makes perfect sense...
...I did wonder why that 'passenger car' didn't have any couplers.

Worth checking 'overhang' in any case...
...the shelf layout might go 'round' a 90deg one day !

;)

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John Garaty (aka, Oztrains)  was kind enough to call and talk me through some of the workings of a sawmill and how to incorporate some form of motion into the model of a sawmill, plus modules, steam engines, and all sorts of stuff.  So I just wanted to thank John as his advice will be a huge help going forward with this project.

Thanks to the advice, I'm confident that a small sawmill can be built on one module.

Now I've got a lot to research and hopefully I will come back with a plan as to what I'll be doing with this sawmill.  Until then, some simpler projects will be in the works and posted here.

Update on the locomotive, it should be on the doorstep Monday afternoon, can't wait!

Next things to be ordered will be trucks, wheels, and couplers, or perhaps some On30 freight car kits, both methods of building cars work out to be about the same in price.

Other buildings that will be needed is a maintenance shed, water tower, either a coal or wood bunker for the locomotive, support buildings for the sawmill, a lumber storage shed, locomotive shed, and a sawdust burner.

I probably won't build all those, but a few of them for sure!

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