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 Posted: Wed Dec 28th, 2016 01:11 am
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Good evening all,  Besides Woodie modeling in 3/8n20 is anyone modeling in 3/8n40?  After 40 years of being an On30 modeler I decided it was time to try 3/8n40.  This is using O standard gauge and building in 3/8's. In my On30 operating group there are two other guys that have started building 3/8's models and layouts.  So far we have asked and Ed Fillion at Deerfield River Laser has agreed to produce a number of laser cut scale 20' frames for us and a number of box car frames.  The problem is we don't know what we don't know in regards to detail parts and where to find them.  I have been using Hobby Linc for 1/35 people, Grandt Line O scale windows, Ed is going to laser cut us windows, various 1/48 and some 1/2 loco and freight car parts.  I am also using Athearn arch bar freight trucks and KD 805 couplers.  My railroad is in an 11' x 25' out building, it is U shaped with a center peninsula.  The track is code 100 hand laid with stub turnouts and Caboose Industries ground throws and hand cut ties. I have three kit bashed locos, the first is a small box cab with pantograph, the mechanism is a K-Line 4 wheel diesel, the second loco is a center cab diesel with a custom built chain drive and brass frame.  I used the Atlas O scale 3 axel for parts and scratch built the cab.  The third loco that I am working on is the K-Line 0-4-0 saddle tank Porter, which is being converted to a small diesel/gas mechanical with side rods, that will be used to switch the pier.  All of the locos are radio controlled battery powered using the Del Tang system.  I will convert the two diesels to the MRC sound genie at a later date.   So if any of you have or are modeling in 3/8's and can help me track down other modelers or where to source out parts I would be most appreciative.   BTW, the On30 railroad is alive and well and sometime next year I will have an article published in Narrow Gauge Downunder.  So thanks again for any help.
Steve Fisher

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 Posted: Wed Dec 28th, 2016 01:55 am
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Hi Steve :wave:

I nearly did what you are doing in 1:32
I had found 1:24n3 a bit too big & wanted something more compact, but still 'large scale'.

My current project is in 1:35n2, where the HUGE amount of possible kits & parts from military-modeling is massive.
I have found a 'mix' of parts, as you have, from other scales can work very well, for these 'unusual' railroading scales.

I in part came to think around this scale, from liking the size of things with 1:32 slotcars.

Have you got any photos of any of you & your pals new project stuff ?

Be great to see them.

All the best.

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Good evening Si,
  Thanks for your thoughts, our three member group likes to say, "the other large scale, only smaller" and I agree I went 1/35 for the detail parts and figures. At the moment I have a few comparison shots but nothing in the way of scenes on the railroad.  Since I am a techno dinosaur, if you will write me off line at: traindadders@gmail.com I will gladly send you what I have.
  When I started in On30 40 years ago, we didn't have the internet so it was hard to find people who were modeling in On30.  Now that we have an Internet, I can't find anyone, I know someone else has to be modeling in this but I can find them.
 SO, the best to you and thanks for your help and thoughts.
Steve Fisher

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Hi Steve :wave:

If you need help Posting photos, just ask.

The quickest & simplest way though, is to use the 'Attachment' button, as the bottom of the 'Main' reply-window.

800-wide is a good size to Post.

They have to be re-sized to under 0.5 Megabytes.

Don't know if you knew, but 1:32 is the old scale used for all 'Patent Application' models.

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 Posted: Wed Dec 28th, 2016 02:34 am
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SI,
  I just recently read that factoid about Patent models, very interesting.  I also just recently saw somewhere where a guy saved most of the models that were going to be thrown away.  I am not sure but believe he is or did start a museum some where here in the States.  Now I could be completely mixed up about this and if I am sorry if it is misinformation.  Never sure if the voices are telling me the truth or not.
  As I said I am a techno dinosaur, so will have to ask one of my grand kids to help on photo posting when they come over.  Where we live we don't have any type of high speed Internet so data is limited as is speed but the good news is, our County is paying to have a double buried fiber ring placed.  It is 75% complete and we should have a Gig to the house by March, but then they told us we would have it by end of summer, by end of November, and by Christmas.  Oh, we are still waiting.
Anyway, again thanks for your help and information,
Steve 

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Howdy Steve, when I began the old Mogollon Railway, I chose 1:32n20 as the scale/gauge because it was (is) so very easy to convert On30 lokies & trucks & O scale details into nice 1:32 items. I had really wanted to model a "two footer" but didn't think about using 1:35 scale...heck, most of the details and figures were already 1:35 anyway. One day I got out my 1:35 scale ruler and measured the track (16.5MM) and found that it appeared to be pretty much "right on" for 24" gauge! That's when I started calling what I was building 35n2. "Proper" 1:35 scale autos are not available for what I wanted but 1:32 scale offers fine old Model T's and other cool autos & trucks and those 1:35 scale figures didn't look "odd" around them. Matter of fact, I got a box of expensive Preiser 1:32 figures to compare and out of 6 figures, 4 were the same "size" as my 1:35 figures and two were around 7 feet tall-in 1:32 scale! They must have been basketball players.
I was taken by what modeler Greg Wright had built and shown in the NG&SLG, he was building 1:32n20. I knew there was another outlaw who thought like me.
So, here I am in an "odball" scale but loving it!
As for 35/32 scale parts, it just takes some looking at what Grandt has in O scale, old timer SELLEY makes beautiful curly spoked O scale brakewheels which work in larger scale, and others make details which may look a bit "coarse" for the O scale purist but fill the bill for this slightly larger scale. Atlas & Athearn O scale trucks look great for 40" gauge and can be converted for nice 36" gauge trucks also. Matter of fact, I have some standard gauge on my layout, the trucks are modified NEW BRITE toy train archbar trucks which scale out just right in 1:32/35. It pays to look at toys, etc. as "kitbash fodder".
And the economic values: a box of 1:35 shop tools (military kit) goes for about $7 or so and those 1:32 Model T's can be found sometimes for $10 bucks for 2 models (sale prices). Just think about how much they would be if labeled "for model railroad use"? And frankly, the detail on die cast autos & trucks surpass those on really expensive O scale models! (my opinion anyway).
Wheew...are you convinced yet?
Si is already pervert...um...converted and several of my friends are likewise.

Have fun & run a train RIGHT NOW!
Woodie



Above: NMRA HO standards gauge with 1:35 scale ruler...pretty close to 2 footer, huh?



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Woodie,
 thanks for your comments and ideas, I couldn't agree more.  I had started about 10 years ago, going down this pathway in the front part of the basement, when the guys in my On30 group started to complain that the Deep Run RR didn't go but so far.  I should say that the railroad took up about 2/3 of a 1900' square foot basement, at the time.  Anyway, my real love and commitment was and still is the On30 so I decided to book shelf the two locos and 8 scratch built freight cars; but the desire to build the 3/8's would not go away.  I got close twice to taking down and selling off a 40 year old railroad but could never pull the trigger.
  This past winter found me keeping the wood stove fed, a book in one hand, a cup of coffee in the other, and a cat in my lap and no desire to do any modeling.  I finally was put on the hot seat by my wife and was asked to explain myself, since as she tells every one, the railroad had become a second job for me. So we decided I needed another project, even though the On30 has plenty to keep me happy and busy.  So the long story short is that I cleaned out the saw dust shop, also known as the wood working shop, put the equipment in another building and started to design this new railroad. I have had a few missteps in the track design but nothing too major and the ideas are still flowing.  I did take your advice and ran the  little box cab and now will take some afternoon time to relax and read.
  I really appreciate your and Si's comments and hope someday to post pictures, where is a kid when you need them?  Wishing you all the best for the New Year, for me two railroads to work on how much better can it get.  Lastly, I forgot to say in the beginning of this note just how much I have liked and enjoyed not only your modeling but your approach to it, first outdoors and second in the living space of your home.  I couldn't do outdoors modeling here in Maryland, either too much humidity in summer or just to nasty for me in winter, at least the out building and house have heat in the respective railroad spaces.
Well, wishing you all the best
Steve

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Steve, I really enjoyed the outdoor layout with "room to build" but now I APPRECIATE being in the living room. My housemate and lady friend always show visitors what is what and even if it isn't running at the moment, everybody likes to look around. When we do "operate", the ladies love to run the little 4-4-0 and tourist car, the slow Shays and ore car business is left to me. Yep, those cold rainy days don't keep me from running a train.But I still miss the trees & birds.

Woodie



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Check out the 5th page of this link, as there's a 1:32 mining layout near me that uses HO track. It's very well done and I love doing op sessions at this layout:
http://www.opsig.org/doff/DOpages/SoundRail%20Review.pdf
This publication has an article on that layout but you gotta pay for it: https://www.tracksidemodelrailroading.com/magazine/past-issues/2014-archive/sep-2014/



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