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 Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2017 12:03 am
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BobC,

I think the only cloth covered stuff is between the ceiling and the 2nd floor. I need to rip out the old drywall in the kitchen anyway, including ceiling, and I hope I can remedy the issue then.

As far as the Walthers coach goes, I plan on doing the one in the photo above or one in the same series that's Pullman Green. The grey (or is that gray?) cars were painted that way so they could run in the streamlined trains (camouflage I guess), the regular trains got the Pullman Green treatment. I plan on running in with one of my passenger steamers, so right now I feel the green is the way to go.

Good luck on your electric project. If I ever run my HO again I'll have to do the same, or make a bunch of conversions to BPRC!

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 Posted: Wed Mar 29th, 2017 10:42 pm
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We had some 50's era plywood railmotors painted in grey towards the end of their lives to supposedly match the mainly stainless steel outer peri-urban fleets. I doubt whether anyone was fooled by the colour change. :>)

Green sounds good to me!

Been told to expect 8-10" rain dumps today right down to my area so not much planned for outside today.

The good thing inside is once the wiring is done there is little required in the line of maintenance. Even if I ran BPRC, there is still the wiring for accessories to be considered so another pair of wires for track power isn't a big deal.
I use a little powdered graphite on the track and running reliability is almost perfect. Experience tells me I would have little if anything to gain with BPRC in that situation. My use of it years ago was to provide for two or three operators on my shelf layouts without resorting to throwing section switches. This was when command control systems weren't what they are now. If I was running HO outdoors that would be a different matter however, diesel lashups with BPRC would be how it would be done.
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 Posted: Thu Mar 30th, 2017 03:15 am
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That's a lot of rain, stay dry my friend!

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 Posted: Sat Aug 5th, 2017 10:40 pm
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Hi Bob D, WOW nice build indeed, you are saying the points are fog , could you build them as a insulfrog  what all my points  and cross overs are, looking into bulding my own as well save money some where, getting too dear to buy now.
The other big questionis did you make up a jig, some brands you buy their jigs wil lhave to make quite a few to get your moneys worth, my layout has quite a points on it and cross overs still planned.
Peco large radius points aren't all that crash hot the second radous is 30inches needs to be 3feet large radius of the point isn't fully curved 5feet, I want to have a go at building a better curved point, you can buy them but quite dear to buy.
Be great to get some advice there, looks so easy when watching a video.
Tony from SE/QLD down under 

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Tony, just saw this.
It has been 4 months since building a turnout, my daughter/family had been staying with me since their return from Sicily (they're moving into their new house next week!)
I built the turnouts without insulated parts because I'm only running PBRC.  I built the frogs in place using pieces of rail cut and trimmed to fit, then soldered.  The commercial frogs were too shallow (because I'm still using hi-Rail wheels).
With me using hi-rail wheels I don't know how useful anything I've done will be of help to anyone else.
So far I've built 3 LH and 3 RH turnouts with about a dozen or so yet to do.  They all worked well on the short test track I used, but the big test will be when they go on the permanent layout I plan on building.



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 Posted: Tue Aug 8th, 2017 01:30 pm
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Morning Bob D, be looking forwad to see your progress pics on your layout build and progress on the point building, I bought my last two points today the rest I will build, thinking of if it is worth it buy a jig to make the points . Points even over here are getting dear in HO scale one costing $32 Peco, have  to save money some where and have heaps of track off cuts, will build a small one first, from what I have seen in videos you cut the track before and after the frog.

I have an old Hornby 0 scale clock work tank loco 0-4-0, plan to leave the clock working in and add a coach to it, battery powering the bogie stil  have the old track but plan to buy new brass track, loco is 57 years old and still run ok for an old loco.

Tony from cool down under

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Tony,57 years old, I think my oldest engines (Williams) were built in the mid 1990s!
I looked at commercial jigs but for the price I didn't pull the trigger.
As far as how to build a turnout, I lay the long piece of straight rail first (once I cut metal away for clearance for the points), then go from there.
I'm sure there is a preferred way or sequence in laying each piece of rail, but I don't know what it is.
With 4 months since my last build I may have to relearn how to do it again.



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Tony,Bob, all I can advise is a Moto-Tool with cutoff wheel, a good soldering iron & solder/flux, some needle files, pair of pliers, and determination. The "first cut" is the hardest, maybe use some of that old brass rail until you get the hang of it. If there are 40 guys out there making their own switches, there will be 46 ways to do the job!

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 Posted: Tue Aug 8th, 2017 10:23 pm
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Hi Bob D and Woodie, yeah I wan to give that loc a new lease of life and get involled in the garden railway guys of my train club something different.

Yes the first piece to the point be the hardest having to work out where the file away for the rail the one  joins up with  the straight or curved piece, I am thinking of lashin gout and buying a jig that gives the right angle for each piece to be filled hope I can get the jig over here.

Woodie a question I just had a big update to win10 and it knocked out spell check my wife went through all the setting in win 10 and they are on for spell check is it in the setting of the forum to turn spell check back on, I miss it L: . as you will see I left a few errors.

Agree with you Bob those commerical jigs are too dear you need to be buiklding a lot of points to get your money back, not just one jig you need others for curved track, I will copy from a Peck point and make my own jig same with curved points Peco bring out a large radius point but the inner radius needs to be larger and outer radius isn't a true radius very hard to to line up on curves.

So many different ideas how othr modellers buid their own points, it is getting started.

Tony from cold down under we we drpeed down to minus get this 24 degrees today and saturday 29 degrees.



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 Posted: Wed Aug 9th, 2017 04:00 pm
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Howdy Tony, as for spell check, I don't use that. I use too many ain't, gonna, whatzit, etc. and would have to be "reminded" of my transgressions. Besides, I look at spell check as a sort of censorship, but then that's just me.

Woodie

PS-just keep grinding and filing rail. I used one of those expensive "jigs" and after an hour of trying to get things made to suit it, I gave up and went back to using no jigs and building a switch in less than an hour.



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