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 Posted: Fri Feb 10th, 2017 07:39 pm
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Larry G
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Steve,
At the 1969, N.M.R.A National convention, held in Minneapolis, Minnesota, the switching contest was done on a 3'x5' On30 layout. And, On30 was around long before 1969.
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Quite a project to tackle, If? you can find a copy
of "LOCMOTIVAS ARTICLADAS", it covers all the articulated locomotives used in Brazil. The Henschel's have 14 photos or plans.

I am partial to the 2 Kitson-Meyer's used in Columbia,
2-8-0+0-8-2T myself. A current project is a K-M 2-6-0+0-6-2T, I need to lengthen the chassis by about 1 IN for On2.5 or leave it and build it in HO.



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 Posted: Fri Feb 10th, 2017 08:18 pm
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Larry, you're correct in that the RHDR did have a fully, if somewhat lightly armoured train incorporating gun cars and a few snaps can be found here.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=rhdr+armoured+train&client=firefox-b&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjTiqPF6YXSAhWKAsAKHRYYDCIQ_AUICCgB&biw=1366&bih=631

And it most certainly is a "real" railway!



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 Posted: Fri Feb 10th, 2017 09:23 pm
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Hey guys, On30 was around since HO was a baby! I have an old 1948 Middle Rollroader (my birthday) with a Trackside Photo of a fellow's "On30" 0-4-0t built on a Mantua "Busy Bee" HO loco. I would post it's photo here but MR has everything copyrighted and you know how that is these days! Way before that, there were modelers building On2 and On3 equipment so it's only natural that they "took the easy way out" and built On30 stuff!
And yes, I took the easy way out and built my 1:35n2 stuff from On30 locos and trucks. I guess I should have scratchbuilt locos and trucks but then I'm a lazy boy.

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 Posted: Fri Feb 10th, 2017 11:51 pm
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One way around copyright is to put up a link to the image, rather than copy the image to the forum.

Didn't know On30 was that old.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 11th, 2017 03:27 am
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HI all, Larry, as I stated we were the first in Maryland.  Since there wasn't an Internet at the time it was hard to discover other folks doing On 30, unless they published in a railroad magazine.   As to the age of On 2 1/2, Hugh Bottell is pretty much recognized as probably the first modeler to build On30 in the correct gauge.  I read an article where he stated that he used a large diameter copper wire fixed to hand cut ties and would bring the battery out of the family car to power the rail.  The railroad was on the floor of an un-heated attic, I can't imagine the logistics of this, talk about dedicated. I did find in my earliest years of On30 modeling, in either the MR or RMC, Larry Patch, Steve Yost (?) think that was his first name, the Schwedler's, think  Coronado Models, and Gordon North, who lived in Rockville, Maryland.  Since Gordon was close, we became good friends I found out that most steam locos Gordon used were Bowser HO mechanisms.   So, I am not suggesting I invented modular On30, just that in Maryland we seem to have been the first to have On30 modules.Wishing you all parallel rails and trains that run on time,Steve

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Yes, I remember all those names also. As for who invented On30...it might be easier to determine who invented the wheel itself! It would be akin to me suggesting that I invented 1:35n2...I'm sure somebody was making 2 footers in that scale back in the dim past. I was influenced by Greg Wright's 1:32n20 mining layout years ago.My point is/was that as long as there have been model trains, somebody looked at a smaller scale as "narrow gauge fodder" for a larger scale.
Now, the only negativity I know about is the wrong side of a battery, just don't touch the black wire to the red wire!

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 Posted: Sat Feb 11th, 2017 04:13 am
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Hi Guys :wave:


I did claim to be the inventor of 1:32n20 as early as 1972 !

I thought I'd invented a new type of railroading ...

... when at a similar age to Adrian Mole, I plonked an Airfix 1:32 soldier in a Tri-ang OO coal wagon ! :shocked:


I would have gone down in history as well ...

... except the new scale/gauge ran into problems.


The Airfix dudes wouldn't go through tunnels or under bridges without CARNAGE !

The Tri-ang wheel-flanges were HUGE as well, so I would never have been featured in 'Railway Modeller' magazine.


Then things got WORSE !

Pops brought home an N-Scale loco & coal wagon one day.

Damn Airfix military guys on THAT looked like they were going into battle on SKATEBOARDS !


The writing was on the cards.

My pioneering days in whacky scale/gauge experimentation were over for another 40 years or so ...


... until I discovered 'whacko central' ... & joined Freerails !!



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 Posted: Sat Feb 11th, 2017 04:54 am
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Kinda hard to be the first at anything, I imagine, in a hobby full of such creativity. 




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 Posted: Sat Feb 11th, 2017 09:23 pm
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There have been prototype 750, 760, 762mm, gauge railways since late 1800s and without doing the math I know that a 76.2mm gun is a 3in gun, so 762.0 mm = 30in.
30 inch gauge prototypes have been around since at minimum a generation before any of us.

(that was said that way because some of the old ones here are pretty old and I don't want to dishonor them by assuming they are younger than they are) ;)



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