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 Posted: Sat May 11th, 2019 01:59 am
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Hi Southpier (a first name in the signature really helps to keep things a bit more friendly)

The short answer is that there is no dedicated "For Sale" Thread on Freerails,
because Freerails has been a "commercial-selling-free" Site,
since its inception way back in the early 2000s.

Please have a read of Si's 32nd Post above, and go have a read of the link in that Thread.
There has been no change in policy regarding the non-commercial nature for Freerails,
in the last 2 years, since the Postings previous to yours,
and there have been no "selling" problems in these last 2 years.

Now here's where it gets tricky - If you follow the existing guidelines there is no problem.
But if a modeller starts advertising "private stuff" for sale here at a relatively frequent rate,
then at some point that "private seller" becomes a "commercial seller" -
ie is making a "commercial amount" of money off Freerails members.
THAT is against the spirit and rules of Freerails.

As Administrators we would prefer (and will ensure)
that Freerails remains a Site for modelling, rather than selling stuff.
There are other places on the Web that are more suitable,
and will likely move your stuff easier and quicker than Freerails.

There is a tripwire out there that is administered by us "Administrators".
That's what we do when we have to.
We would prefer not to have to "administrate" at all.
But we will if we have to.

I hope that helps clarify why there is no dedicated "For Sale" Thread on Freerails.




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 Posted: Sat May 11th, 2019 10:09 am
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I was using this as a guideline as it appeared to be the most succinct explanation I could find:

http://www.freerails.com/view_topic.php?id=2520&forum_id=3

But in all honesty, the possibility of offering something of general use at a good value,
is overshadowed by the controversy, so I will do something else with it.


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 Posted: Sat May 11th, 2019 04:13 pm
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I know that the Site's guidlines about selling stuff, seems to be kind of "stick in the ass",
but you might realize that with today's "I'm gonna sue you and everybody associated..." attitude,
particularly in the US, it is fortunate that they stand.
I trust that you'll understand.

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 Posted: Sun May 19th, 2019 10:45 am
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" I was using this as a guideline as it appeared to be the most succinct explanation I could find "



That Thread has been deliberately edited to be "succinct" & those guidelines have been the same for years

It has also been deliberately made very easy to "find" & has also been made a Forum Sticky as well

Posted in block-capitals right at the top of the General Talk Forum along with this current Thread

- SELLING ITEMS ON FREERAILS ? - Selling Personal Items Is OK If You Follow The Guidelines



" But in all honesty, the possibility of offering something of general use at a good value,
is overshadowed by the controversy, so I will do something else with it "



If one wants to make a mountain out of a mole hill then that mountain will be made

That mountain will then in all honesty just overshadow every very simple possibility with controversy

Here is an example of that from 2 years ago & in fact the Forums only example of a 'How Not To Do It'

For Sale - Making room on the shelves



Guidelines regarding the offering of personal items For Sale on Freerails are as clear as crystal

This current Thread has extended that crystal clarity in regard to commercial items being disallowed



Oh BTW one or two of you out there just might have heard of a little Internet Site called EBAY ! 

Everything possibly imaginable can be both bought & sold there as easy as anything

From Lakers tickets to loo roll they got it


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 Posted: Sat Jun 1st, 2019 01:28 pm
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The principal problem being looked into at the moment is ...

" all sorts of spam and camouflaged advertising "



Freerails as you know, is not a place jammed full of RULES !

Not only is potential 'rule-making' tedious, but is largely un-needed.

There are of course UNWRITTEN RULES as well !

One of the most blindingly obvious 'Unwritten Rules', is that Freerails is a NON-COMMERCIAL SITE.



What is being looked into at present, is simply instances where existing 'Guidelines' are NOT being followed.

There seems to be an idea floating about, that if $$$ money isn't mentioned, then it's OK.

The 'Guidelines' however, are clearly stated in regard to PERSONAL ITEMS only.

There are NO 'Guidelines' regarding COMMERCIAL COMPANIES ...

... since Freerails is a NON-COMMERCIAL SITE.



I hope that illustrates the difference between PERSONAL and COMMERCIAL fully.






An important extract of text taken from the last page


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