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 Posted: Sat Sep 16th, 2017 03:17 am
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The way things are run on my railroad sometimes you just might think that the government is in charge.



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 Posted: Sat Sep 16th, 2017 11:22 am
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" thought it was important to clarify that aspect of the rule changes.
When reducing a massive grey area to a fine line "  -  James.


" one of the things I like best about buying and selling things in forums I participate in
is that I'm dealing with people I've established a relationship with."  -  Mike.


" You're right when you install mechanisms to save the forum from becoming
the playground for all sorts of spam and camouflaged advertising "  -  Helmut.



Hi Guys :wave:



Thanks very much for all your thoughts regarding advertising & product-placement on Freerails.


Just to clarify several things.


First of all, there are no "rule changes" at present.

The guidelines for offering PERSONAL ITEMS for sale, were Posted by Herb, way back when.

They are both simple & clear, as to how PERSONAL ITEMS for sale may be Posted on Freerails.



They are here :-

Herbs Guidelines For PERSONAL ITEM Sales

Couldn't be more straightforward.



Since being a Member of Freerails myself, I've seen less than 1/2 a dozen items offered by Members.

They have ALL without exception, been PERSONAL ITEMS of a model-railroading nature.

They have NOT been 'advertorials' for commercial company bulk-product sales.

Neither have they directed Members to commercial company sales-websites.

Not a problem whatsoever.



The principal problem being looked into at the moment is ...

" all sorts of spam and camouflaged advertising "


Freerails as you know, is not a place jammed full of RULES !

Not only is potential 'rule-making' tedious, but is largely un-needed.

There are of course UNWRITTEN RULES as well !

One of the most blindingly obvious 'Unwritten Rules', is that Freerails is a NON-COMMERCIAL SITE.



What is being looked into at present, is simply instances where existing 'Guidelines' are NOT being followed.

There seems to be an idea floating about, that if $$$ money isn't mentioned, then it's OK.

The 'Guidelines' however, are clearly stated in regard to PERSONAL ITEMS only.

There are NO 'Guidelines' regarding COMMERCIAL COMPANIES ...

... since Freerails is a NON-COMMERCIAL SITE.



I hope that illustrates the difference between PERSONAL and COMMERCIAL fully.



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 Posted: Sat Sep 16th, 2017 02:24 pm
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Si, don't think that po' old Herb established these rules, they go way back to the beginnings of Freerails, Hotshot Dave and Paladin Don set up the rules and Herb is their Huckleberry now. Occasionally Dave chimes in but I haven't seen Don's name in quite a while.
But, whatever Herb sez is OK by me anyway.
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 Posted: Sat Sep 16th, 2017 02:34 pm
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Howdy Woodie :cb:



Dave originally said :- " No selling ... Period "



Herb, some years later, amended Daves original Topic/Post ...

... & very slightly relaxed that absolute NO policy ...

... to the current guidelines, in the link above ^^.



Nothing has actually changed, since that amendment ...

... other than a handful of commercial 'Ad. Threads' that slipped through the net being DELETED ! :f:



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http://www.slotforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=59295&st=0&a
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 Posted: Fri Sep 22nd, 2017 06:52 pm
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You deleted all my posts from the last 3 years Si?



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 Posted: Fri Sep 22nd, 2017 07:00 pm
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Sorry guys, do not post much lately, the business is killing my time but I find this a very interesting topic.

Also because the line between commercial and non commercial is very thin in my case. I switched from woodworking to modeling a couple of years ago and have a pretty decent living out of my sales. I'm not selling to the customer themselfs but mainly through a selected dealer net. Most of the green creations I post here the last 2 years ended up as a product for sale. Although I do not tell this item's for sale or any other referene where to buy I ask myself if I should I quit posting because I hve a certain commercial interest in showing?

The same for my weathering, most cars I show are ones from customers. I get payed for painting. So I ask myself the same question here.

So help me out guys...



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 Posted: Fri Sep 22nd, 2017 07:13 pm
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Hi Martin.



Only a very, very few commercial advertising Threads were removed.

All were blatant adverts for specific commercial products of various sorts.

All the Posters of these adverts, also maintain large glossy commercial sales websites.



These Threads had no normal Members modeling content in whatsoever.

For the most part they had, either none, or extremely few comments or replies.



This was done several months ago.



Freerails crew haven't deleted anything you've Posted Martin.

I just looked at 'Dirty Stuff 1 & 2', 'Mara Harbour 1 & 2', 'Martins Greenery' and 'Cardigan Bay'.

4 of which are Forum 'Stickies'.

They appear to all be where they always have been.



So I don't understand.

What do you think is missing ?



Si.



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' Mysterious Moose Mountain ' - 1:35n2 - pt.II
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http://www.slotforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=59295&st=0&a
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 Posted: Sat Sep 23rd, 2017 02:42 pm
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Nothing Si, just a bit of a joke because I have a commercial interest in being a good modeler..



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 Posted: Thu Sep 28th, 2017 03:45 pm
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And Martin, you sure are a good modeler. Love your hints and tips, especially scenery and tree stuff. Keep posting.

Last edited on Thu Sep 28th, 2017 03:45 pm by mabloodhound



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