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 Posted: Tue May 16th, 2017 12:23 pm
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Damaged locomotive, Richmond, Virginia, 1865. Seems to have been in a roundhouse fire.

https://robertpiers.tumblr.com/image/141616494773

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 Posted: Tue May 16th, 2017 12:59 pm
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U.S Civil War Dates


12 Apr 1861 – 9 May 1865


Huge amounts of damage caused to railroad infrastructure.


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Judging by the outlines, I presume this is an americanized British loco. Look at the coupling rods' design.



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Hi Helmut and all,
It may have been a Norris design built in the US. They were the originators of the 4-4-0 design and used "Haystack" type boilers from their early days. (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norris_Locomotive_Works ). 


This loco looks quite early and may have been over 10 years old when it "got cooked".  The stack is a giveaway that it was wood-fired in original operating condition. It also looks like the stack has taken a hit as well (from a falling rafter or similar?)

The US Library of Congress has this photo listed as after the fall of Richmond. A quick search in Photograph the Library of Congress website using "Richmond locomotive" turns up several photos of equally "unhappy"  or "sadder" looking locomotives



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I first thought too that this engine was a Norris, but AFAIK they used outside cylinders ( that being part of their innovative design ) from the beginning.

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That indeed is a very old design. I'm going to guess that it may be a substantial rebuild. I may have started as a 4-2-0. Note something that is often overlooked with locos from this era. The lead driver is blind. This was quite common in the days before the invention of the radial pilot truck.

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Another one. Steam locomotive “Hero” destroyed by Confederates while evacuating Atlanta, Georgia, circa 1860-65.

https://robertpiers.tumblr.com/image/160804639133

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Hi all,
I'm wondering if that cooked Richmond loco is a knock-off of an early Bury design from the UK. Several were exported to the US early on and their success led to the adoption of bar frames almost as a US standard design feature. 
The Bury locomotive design had inside cylinders and used haystack type boilers. the frim was finished by the early 1850's. Have a look at "Old Coppernob" in the UK. 



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 Posted: Fri May 19th, 2017 02:46 pm
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pipopak wrote: Another one.If you scroll left to the picture of USMRR 'Fred Leach' there, you can see the loco is sitting on inverted u-rail instead of the standard Vignoles type..

The Richmond loco may have been a Campbell

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