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 Posted: Thu Jul 27th, 2017 02:19 am
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Daniel Asselin
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 My first post. I'm going out of my mind actually.  I was very much into hand laid tracks and turnouts. That was in my HO time 35 years ago.  Sooooo.... I bought all the needed equipment to begin again. My problem is I think I went overboard I'm trying to build a number 6 turnout in HOn3 using code 55 tracks.  Man those are small.  I'm having a hell of a time putting a fairly simple turnout together. I'm starting to wonder if I should have gone with code 70 rails.
I'm using an old method, a template, pc board, HOn3 gauge for proper spacing, spiking tools and soldering iron. I don't want to use the fast track templates. So any ideas. My main problem is holding the tracks firmly in place while soldering them. I'm open to any and all suggestions.
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I am doing the exact same thing, HOn3 with 55 code track, though I do have the Fast Tracks jig, so far I've been enjoying it, I am finding the stock rails are the toughest part, I've had every one so far just pop off after I think I'm done, the other solder joints hold great, something I"m doing obviously, and I'll keep at it until I figure it out, but the code 55 is pretty darn small.

I haven't tried without the Fast Tracks jigs yet, built plan on doing some other size turnouts down the road. I got some Railway Engineering Rollee gauges and gotta say they seem to really help.



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 I have no issues with the soldering.  To make sure I have a solid weld I mark the rails with a felt marker where rail will be positioned on each PC tie, then I preheat the rail and PC ties and apply just a tiny dab of lead to rail and PC ties. But first I should say that I clean the ties and rails using a fine grain sand paper.  This part works fine. I will order some Railway Engineering Rollee gauges.

Thank You for the Advice

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H Dan :wave:



I handlaid some 9mm gauge back in the day.


I had 'Brit.' type code-70 'bullhead', still pretty small.


With the added disadvantage of no flat-bottom either. :f:



I used DIY made, turned-brass roller-gauges.


They had a fine-hole drilled through as well.


This enabled a pin to be pushed through into the soft-board benchwork.


They did help things a lot.



Keep up the good work Dan.


I think we always get better, and it gets easier on these kinda things.


Just finding 'the knack' I guess. ;)



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Got any pix. guys ?



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Code 55 is pretty miserable to work with but I have had success with using an old piece of asbestos about 6" square (don't know where to find it now...maybe Micro Mark) and build the frog, etc. on the board being held down with straight pins. I use a little Bernz-O-Matic butane torch, good flux, and solder and gently pass it over the parts which have a little flux and tiny piece of solder next to the area to be joined and it works without any hassle.
I showed this method in my Gila Tram mini layout thread but UNFORTUNATELY damned old Photobuck-it deleted all the pix and the thread is now useless. However, there is an article about this layout in NARROW GAUGE DOWN UNDER several years back (sorry also that I don't have the date) which shows some track laying.
Just have a steady hand and good tools and you will succeed.

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And each one that you build will be better than the last.



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I would advise against the use of templates, or jigs, as they limit you to what ever angle (4,6, etc.) the template is. Tends to make a track plan look like it was done in snap-track, or the like. Learn to make switches fit the situation, just like the real guys do.



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Or...just build one of these! Custom made by Mr. Kephart hisself back in the ancient times and I still need to find a place for it!

As can be seen, this is set up for stub operation...goodness knows how much BS it would take to make it into a point type switch!

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Herb Kephart wrote: Learn to make switches fit the situation, just like the real guys do.










I always laugh when someone thinks something is easy for them, they think it must be equally simple for anyone else.
I wouldn't dream of attempting trackwork like this with hand-laid track. I use flex track and commercial turnouts. I know several people who hand-laid their own track (including one MMR who thinks he knows everything) and their track is, well, horrible. From seeing that, I would never even consider something like the track in this shot!



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Herbies rusty ol' iron ...

... is the Rolls Royce of rail laying.


I may not succeed myself ...

... but I damn sure should have a try !



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