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2' Ga Garretts in S. Africa
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 Posted: Tue Sep 5th, 2017 08:14 pm
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Herb Kephart
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I don't think much of #113's "Driver" or of the fireman either, but there are some double headed shots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ec9HtqfdgU

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Hi Herb and all, 
First train out after a cold clear night onto dewy rails with grades and tight curves is always going to be tough. The crew may not have too much time on 2' gauge Garratt's, especially under significant loadings. Some of the crews were from steam-qualified personnel from other countries. So perhaps we shouldn't be too hard on the crews??

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=937ZkuLyj7w


The next one looks like it is 2019  Fancy a trip to South Africa??



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Great!

That looks like a nice event to visit. A bit far away but combined with a trip through South Africa... :cb:

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Always thought that Bachmann should do one of these Garretts in On30. Might not be the biggest seller in the U.S. (though I would buy one) but should be very popular world-wide.

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My vote would be for a K-1 model. Nice & small, just what every pike needs.

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Hi Woodie, and all,
If you want an On30 Garratt, try this one of a REAL 30' gauge railway


K1 has been done in 1/43rd scale as a kit by Backwoods Miniatures out of the UK. This was done as a limited run RTR. Now probably only available on the second-hand market due to ill health of the owner's wife causing a halt to the business.  



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John, a friend bought an On30 K-1 kit years ago and it is still in the box (a shallow box I might add). I would have no problem building one but it looked to be very complicated. Now if there were a 1:35n2 K-1 kit then I'd be there in a "New York minute"! Maybe one day pigs will fly...maybe not.
BTW, that 30" Garratt looks very neat, if I was still into On30, I'd want one.

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I've been prompted into replying by a certain ceegar chewing dawg.

Firstly, I've never driven or fired a Garratt, neither have I ever driven/fired a double header but I have been on a trailing (rear) double header footplate as a travelling fitter (mechanic). I have driven the first service train of the early morning over very damp rails and adverse grades of about 1.75 - 1.9 % with many strictly timed scheduled station stops - and arrived at the final station stop bang on time.


Secondly I don't want to be too critical of an unknown crew on a far distant unknown loco and road but to me the crew of No 113  clearly haven't got the job under control, other than the initial few shots - compare the ratio of smoke:exhaust steam from No 113's chimney to those of "Boadicea" (the lead loco) and the Oztrainz photo. It looks like the fireman doesn't know when to let the bed burn through and stop firing, he may have the fire half smothered under cold, unburnt fuel. Maybe the driver has a mate in the wheel turning shop in desperate need of overtime hours. Who knows ?.
Double heading requires ultimate attention to the sounds and sights coming from each other's loco, clearly lacking in this video. There is no obvious whistle communication between the two drivers (engineers). 

I and at least a few others I know are concerned at the standard of some allegedly "passed for steam" mainline modern traction drivers who have attended a steam conversion course. Some of their antics on steam hauled mainline services over here are ludicrously dangerous and if more widely known would cause a permanent ban on heritage loco access to our main public rail system. I myself have been on the footplate of a loco with a steam conversion passed driver who tried to stop our loco on the train brake. The only problem was that we had just dropped the cars off for a platform runround and we were heading towards a closed, gated level (grade) crossing with automobiles driving across it but we had no train behind us.
 "Use the f....ing LOCO brake" as I grabbed the appropriate handle to halt us. Happy Days.

Regards,   Michael

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K-1 Garrat plans here:

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/95/af/81/95af81aa8a343838c6d30946d553363f.jpg

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