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Tam Valley no longer in deadrail.
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Saw the following on the Tam Valley home page;

In a tough business decision I have decided Dead Rail is dead at Tam Valley Depot

http://www.tamvalleydepot.com/

It's a pity to hear this from one of the innovators.
John

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This "tough business decision" is probably due to low (or almost NO) sales of r/c equipment. Tam Valley offers various DCC "friendly" devices and most all model railroaders are interested in the latest high-tech (bells, whistles, animated figures, etc.) stuff which appeals to those who seem to be stuck in the "table thumping, track cleaning" fraternity. Face it, r/c hasn't really arrived...yet! I do have one comment, which I have made many times before, I sincerely wish someone had come up with a better name for r/c trains than "Dead Rail". I don't consider my r/c locos and un-wired layout(s) as being "Dead"!
Oh well, sorry to hear this news but I understand what's going on.

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As I mentioned on the Bluerail topic below about lack of recent development of the product. Maybe their sales are low as well and not enough to finance investment.

Over here in the UK we have Protocab and Deltang. In my opinion Protocab has a problem with a low spec and a high price so we are left with Deltang. I think David T is a one man operation which of course keeps his costs down but puts all our eggs in one basket!

r/c will have its day when 2 things happen. Battery technology improves somewhat and the DCC types eventually realise that their basic problem is the wheel/track interface and the commands arriving via the rails

Meanwhile I have several spare Deltang Rx so should be OK for several years.

THinks - how long do electronic devices last? I have a 7 transistor (transistor?) am/fm radio that I got for my 16th birthday back in 1967. It still works!



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The immediate case appears to be a result of a general lack of demand for "Dead Rail" in the smaller scales. Probably because it isn't really needed. DCC rules the smaller scales.

In the larger scales, the lack of consumer interest in new technologies is because over eager entrepreneurs who have misjudged the requirements of Large Scale outdoors operation. Mobile Phones just don't cut it outdoors in Sunshine.

Dave is right. Deltang owns the field for good reasons.

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I use Deltang and it works well in HOn30 & On30.  I have no trouble.



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Over here in Germany, there is a sound R/C vehicle sector, scales from 1:87 to 1:5. So apart from Deltang, you have at least two other systems in the field, all using the same technique ( and therefore interoperable to a certain degree ).  If you are willing to sacrifice the 12V-motor in R/C locos, you find straightforwardly usable stuff from the 1:87 section.



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This a low voltage geared motor with a cross box added by Bernard Snoodyk.  It works well with a Deltang RX and 1S battery.
Bernard Snoodyk-CrossBox

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" all our eggs in one basket! "

" problem with a low spec and a high price "



Hi Guys :wave:



To all the paupers reading ...

... who want both a high-spec. AND a very low-price ...

... & don't like all their eggs in one basket.



If you have > $20 inc. P&P ! ... and want a top-quality 2.4 GHz Transmitter AND Receiver to play with ...

... look no further than the 'FlySky' FS-GT2E twin-pack !








If the future of R.C. trains is 'with the kids' ? ... :cool:

... they not only need to be able to afford it $$$ ... :shocked:

... they need to be able to have fun & experiment with it ... :)

... they also need to understand it, without overly complex schematics etc. ???



Since the R.C. car, boat & plane enthusiasts, of which there are already probably MILLIONS ...

... already use this easily available, affordable, simple to understand 2.4 GHz technology ...

... who needs all their eggs in one basket ? :us:



It's just so 'doable', and with extra Receivers available at only about $4 inc. P&P each. :bg:

You don't have to be 'jet-set' to get numerous baskets AND the eggs to fill them !! :thumb:



IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ROCKET SCIENCE ! :brill:



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Good morning all, Here on the East coast there are a number of us that went to battery r/c and will never look back, it is that good.  I have 38 On30 locos under battery and 3-3/8n40 locos as well. I know Steve Sherrill has many On30 locos under battery as well. I can agree that the name for what we do is maybe not the best but I think we are stuck with it for now.  I also agree that the dcc folks don't get it and seem to think that if they go battery they have to change everything out.  SS and myself go to different events and will set up something for information purposes only to spread the word so to speak.  I find that the two talking points are the "explosive" nature of charging the battery and the dcc change over.  After we put that to rest they still think it is a fad and they can't see changing out their system of train control. I don't think the ratio will change all that much between dcc and battery users, there are to many advertising dollars being spent in the train magazines for dcc.  Once the magazines get behind battery and can make more money with it, then and only then will they truly promote it.  I don't know that much about Tam Valley but if you require the rail to send anything to the loco then it isn't a true dead rail system.  So maybe they tried to do too much and they priced themselves out of the market.  David T still has the best system going round but as someone said he is a one man shop and the production time was cutting into his personal life. OK, that is about as many words as I want to spend on my opinion.Wishing you all well, living the life in the land of pleasant living on the Eastern shore of Maryland,Steve

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I'm with Si on going BPRC.  It doesn't have to be expensive.  I picked up a FlySky Tx and Rx, ESC, and LiPo battery for about $30.  Plan on installing it into a Bachmann On30 Shay.

Even at $30 per loco it's still a lot cheaper than installing DCC receivers.  And I don't have to clean track.

I do have two locos that used inexpensive RC cars for the electronic parts.  In spite of numerous fumbles on my part I got both to work. 






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