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Well, here I go once more...building (or rather re-building and changing) a new layout. I finally got moved to "the boonies" where life is slower which befits my inherent slowness anyway. Now, I have a 2 car garage (will never be used to house gas guzzlers) which has become my "train domain" and where I have been spending valuable TV watching time (I have a TV out there too). The almost "finished" SCPA&M RR has been taken apart and the sections have been set up similar to the layout I had in the living room but what once fit with one piece now connects with a different piece (or pieces). A track plan will be posted soon as well as "in progress"

After deciding to "come back" to Texas and modeling a railroad that my friend James Sullivan wanted to create (James is now into HO diesels and English steam, what a combination!), I present the theme of the new layout.
Yes, the same old SCPA&M lokies, rolling stock, track layout (well, the enginehouse and yards) and some of the structures will be reused, re-purposed, and generally left alone.
http://freerails.com/view_topic.php?id=6332&forum_id=17
Here's a link to Silver City Narrow Gauge layout that I was building, it may be helpful to see where this all started.
Why Big Bend (a wild and wooly area that runs along the Rio Grande River which is the boundary between the US and Mexico)...well, just because I want to model it!. Future posts will reveal my fascination with this place.
I actually wanted to build a layout in the Bend when I built the old Mogollon Railway but was "hooked" on the area of New Mexico where the old town is located. More on this later on also. Much to do and relate but as for now, I am back home in Texas, railroad-wise.

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I have never been to the Big Bend area of Texas so am looking forward to watching your new build. Other than the Rio Grande river, is this a dryish location like the others you have modeled? Larry Gant

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" The almost "finished" SCPA&M RR has been taken apart and the sections have been set up similar to the layout I had in the living room
but what once fit with one piece now connects with a different piece (or pieces).
A track plan will be posted soon "



Howdy Woodie :cb:



Your new double-garage sounds like a pretty cool hangout ! :cool:

I hope the SCPA&M RR sections from 'Dullass' had a comfortable trip to Royse City ! :)



I suspect you might just be finding a place for your old trestle to the smelter there somewhere. ?

We'll see ! :bg:



Don't rush the trackplan Woodie  .  .  .  :mex:

You know it's best to draw those AFTER the layout has been built !! :shocked: ;)



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I glad to hear your getting settled in. I would like to come visit and drink a Shiner or 12 sometime now that your not in the metro mess. I try like hell not to go to Dullass. I prefer out in the sticks myself. 
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Smart move Woodie-- the railroad can haul material for the GREAT WALL!
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As old Bob would say-"come on down (or up)" I was in hell (Dullass) today and it sucks as bad as ever!

To the BIG BEND, of course there were no railroads there except for some mine trams and a cool aerial tramway over to Boquillas in Mehico. Therefore, I figger that my track plan and general idea will become "the prototype". I will go back to my roots of making a layout that is pure fiction, I found (well, I already knew) that following a prototype can become a real hassle unless you are prepared to surrender your vision. Many can do that but I ain't one.
Who's to say that the guys who built the SCPA&M didn't look further south after the New Mexico 2 footer closed up in 1907? It was done many times when mines played out and others looked promising. The Big Bend area had been mined for centuries before railroads were around and there are still some old prospector types in them hills today. Gold, silver, mercury, and some others are found in "the Bend" and one other commodity which is/was profitable-the processing of candelaria plants into wax which was used for lubricants,
polish, and, yes, candles. Matter of fact, the snooty "new age" types still love the candles made from the plant to add "atmosphere" to their million dollar homes.

Matter of fact, here's a photo of a real wax factory taken in about 1918. Imagine what a cool model that would be! I may in fact build something like this for the layout. The metals smelter is way too large for a proper operation in 1:35 but this could be modeled.
The little book BIG BEND: A history of the last Texas frontier  by Ronnie Tyler (shown in the first post) is a National Park handbook and most of the photos shown (like this one) are not credited and are "public domain". There are more photos...many more...which will be shown later on.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjO7cr-i43XAhUpxoMKHWSiDIwQFghIMAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FBig_Bend_National_Park&usg=AOvVaw29-RNh2_ZeVaE-XRok1GCi
Here is a link from Wikipedia which has some neat info about the area.
More stuff and some actual modeling coming up soon.

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Sounds like a fun project-I will be a-watching

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Woodie,


It will be fun to follow your progress with the new layout!  Looking forward to you upcoming posts.


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Certainly a different and unusual mining operation, looks like a number of ATLAS HO water tanks could be used for the open topped tanks.

Looking forward to your new layout.

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"IT DOESN"T MATTER IF YOU WIN OR LOSE, IT"S HOW YOU RIG THE GAME"

I have thought that this is one of the better "tag lines" ever since Woodie started using it. Just to prove that the man "practices what he preaches", I dug this up from the past--






Woodie (white hair, seated) has just been passed a couple aces by Jesus (waiter, walking away)


Herb (who was there in spirit)

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Ken, the old Atlas tanks would be just right! I will have to look at the "flea market" while the Plano train show is going on soon. Of course, knowing me, I may get "antsy" and make the damn things from Pringles cans or something like that. Thanks for the idea!
Herb-yes, the old dudes playing "poker" down at the Bloated Goat #2...what fun that was! It's all in how you rig it...

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Well, I am still workin' on the railroad. It helps that I already had built most of it (the old SCPA&M) but I had to make some new pieces and of course, the premise changed. No longer the hard-core ore hauler, this railroad still serves some mines in the "Bend" but now has another source of revenue-the wax trade. And (due to the freelanced nature of this), the time is now circa 1950 or so. That's so I can use my beloved 49' Merc and Ford Tudor. Great reason for a time change, nicht whar?
So, here are some photos of new stuff with explanations.


This 70-some foot, 35 foot high trestle was needed to cross Boquillas Canyon. Needless to report, it still needs more "detailing" , better scenery, and proper facia to finish it off.


A new 3 stall enginehouse is being built, I loved the "prototype" 7 stall SCPA&M structure but needed a smaller one and the width of this section was trimmed down by about 18". Also gone is the smelter complex and large slag pile behind the "original"...I never really liked the slag pile (too much blackness) and in 1:35 scale, the smelter was just "too much" for me to model. If I was in HO or N, I might could have built a reasonable smelter but how much BS would I put up with to model HOn2 or Nn2? NO WAY! This enginehouse is stucco over brick and when finished will remind me of my old On20 and 35n2 Mogollon Railway, I love the look.

Then, there's this. At the "other end" of the line, there's a turntable and small yard and my ops buddy Dave suggested that I keep one of the Porters here to do some switchin'... and build a small enginehouse. This one is similar to the big 3 staller on the other end, the idea being that both structures were built by the same crew. Besides, I love the look. Both buildings have/will have shutters instead of windows since the details I intend to put inside are not very visible through punky windows, I want to see the details myself and not leave them to the spiders to appreciate!
Both structures are made from styrofoam planks, ripped down on my bandsaw from scrap blue foam and coated with Durham's water putty painted white.
In the background is a bit of the Hairpin Curve from the SCPA&M, unchanged, since that was the thing that got me interested in Western 2 footers to begin with.
Now, just some scenery, details, and other stuff. BTW-the track is all laid and operates nicely. I bought all the code 83 rail at the LHS just to be sure I'd have enough to finish. I have maybe 5 sticks left!

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Oh wow like very much even un finished what i remember from the '80s when i lived in plano there wasn't much but highway out that way now there are all kinds of business along the highway. I was a charter member of the spring creek modular club

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LIDGERWOOD ! ... LIDGERWOOD ! ... LIDGERWOOD !



:moose::moose::moose::moose::moose:



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Nice work Woodie ! :thumb:

Can't quite believe you are kinda, at least in part, on your 3rd ! layout since I've known you. :shocked:

I figure the Lidgerwood has just got back from the new bridge building site. :)

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Woodie,

Really like that single-stall engine house.  I may have to steal, er borrow, you idea and build one for my own railroad.

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It's OK to steal/purloin any stuff I have shown. I am looking at structures that I built for the previous layouts to see if any could be re-used. Some of the mine buildings may work but the smelter buildings will become "fodder" for other stuff. Thank goodness I have boxes full of details which will be used and all my old autos, trucks, and horse/mule drawn wagons will find new homes here. I just have "so much" space to store structures, etc. that I won't be using so I need to make decisions about what is kept and what gets thrown...you know.
It seems that I have got almost all the "bugs" out of the trackwork and a bit more massaging with a small needle file will take care of any little problems. And I just looked at the rail stockpile, I only have 3 pieces not the 5 I thought I had. Ah, but the LHS called to tell me they had gotten in another bundle of code 83 weathered rail. Do you think they are trying to tempt me???

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EXTENSION ! ... EXTENSION ! ... EXTENSION !



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Si, it's a bit longer run than before. Remember "less is more", I have built the spaghetti bowl western before. I will post a track plan along with the garage dimensions...I need somewhere for a workbench, bandsaw, and tools. Also a small TV set, radio, digital fireplace, chairs, you know...stuff!
"Yield not to temptation!"

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Just caught up with this Woodie and it's coming along nicely. That window must throw a lot of light onto the layout, a great bonus, especially where it emphasises the mass of the trestle being lit to ground level.

Your historic affection for adobe type buildings is certainly coming out in the loco sheds and I wouldn't be surprised to see it elsewhere as well. Following with interest.

And Si, you really are a crane nut aren't you! :rah:

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" the LHS called to tell me they had gotten in another bundle of code 83 weathered rail "

" Do you think they are trying to tempt me "

" Yield not to temptation! "



Howdy Woodie :cb:



Yeah I know ... It's early days for an   EXTENSION ! ... EXTENSION ! ... EXTENSION !

I thought the local Code-83 pusher had got you hooked. :w:



Just wondering if the new double garage has a flat roof ??

That helix idea running up to one, which I saw in Model Insaneroader ...

... with the firemans-pole next to it, could work !! ;)



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" Si, you really are a crane nut aren't you! "



Hi Doug :wave:



I'm in therapy at the moment.

I've managed to stabilize the problem to ONLY four crane builds !



I was a bit disappointed not to see the BROWNHOIST ! on Woodies new layout. :f:

I guess he's saving it for Page-3 and the engine-house construction crew. :thumb:



Oh well, it's only the second Page ...

... and he did give us a glimpse of the LIDGERWOOD ! :bg: at least.

Can't complain really.



:P



Si.

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Woodrow. remember the olde model railroaders credo--

Buy when it's available, lest it be not there when you need it!


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Following the new build with great interest and admiration.  Really love the rustic appearance of the ties by the small engine house.  Superb!

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Bob, the ties are cut on my bandsaw. I was too lazy to fit a fine tooth blade but when I saw what the wood looked like after cutting some tie stock, I decided to keep on going. Sometimes a disaster becomes just right!
Herb, no, I ain't gonna buy 99 feet of rail. Maybe some more pieces but I will resist being tempted to "e x p a n d" the line.

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Woodie,

What's that two-prong doohickey on the top of Rosa #3?

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Woops...forgot to move Rosa's transmit crystal! If I don't stash them somewhere close to the locos, they tend to "walk away". Good eyes Michael, me bad.

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While "under pressure" to post something "worthwhile", I decided to show something small but mui importante to what I am trying to portray on this layout. Down in "The Bend", life was/is rough and humans exist the best as they can. Here is a photo from the book "Big Bend-A history of the last Texas frontier" which is a guidebook for those who want to visit the area. As I explained earlier, the Bend borders Mexico in SW Texas, the Rio Grande River runs through the rough, wild terrain. Folks living there found unique ways to build homes.

This family built their adobe home between 2 large boulders near Polvo, TX in about 1916. It looks rough but I am sure it was pretty cozy when it got cold and cool when it was hot! This photo is from the book and has no credits so I assume it is public domain.

Here's my "take" on the prototype. The 1:35 scale model is built from blue styrofoam sheets that I cut on my bandsaw and a couple of foam "chunks" that got carved a bit to resemble large boulders. This was then covered with Durham's Water Putty (a wonderful thing for most everything) and when dry, it will be "massaged" and stained with appropriate colors. I will try to carve the adobe bricks into the walls but won't obsess about it if I can't make it look OK. The idea is to include this on my model of the Big Bend Two Footer. I believe the folks who lived here harvested the candelaria plants which can be boiled down for their valuable wax-still used today in candles, etc. for the "upwardly mobile hipsters" with loads of spare cash.
I wanted to include a wax factory on this layout but space availability is at a premium and besides that, the industry seemed to be more of the "bootleg" variety, the railway hauls silver and gold ores.

Back to the model, I have become a big advocate of using styrofoam for most everything, from the layout itself to the scenery and most of the structures. And thanks to friend Dave Cox, the bandsaw is the best modeling tool I have...that and a supply of sharp, new razor blades and Xacto #11's.

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Looks great.  I expect to find some lizards and snakes upon close inspection.
Agree with preference of foam as an all around building element.  Amazing how much can be done with foam and how easy it is to work with.

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Nice!  Pretty cool structure and idea.  I like adobe. 

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I've been workin' on the railroad, most of the live-long day! Well, some here & some there. Here are some photos of what's happening down in the Bend.
I reused one of the old ore bins (tipple) which was on the old Mogollon Railway and then on the Silver City line. I try to not throw anything away! I did modify the bin to be filled by an aerial bucket tramway, something that was actually used down along the Rio Grande river near the little Mexican town of Boquillas. Of course I have taken some "liberties" with the model. The little settlement I am working on is just a dusty place along the river. Everything shown here is "under construction" and will get finished in a while.








Here's what I have so far... The dusty dirt road winds around a small mesa and the structures will "populate" one side of the road. Only one or two buildings shown will actually be used, I just wanted to see what "something" would look like. You can see that across the "street", the ore bin & tramway are located on a siding.








Here's the ore bin and tramway (still incomplete). Why does this have 2 cables you may ask? Well, the top cable is stationary and the buckets' guide wheels run along it, the lower cable is the "grip" cable which actually pulls the buckets along. I have seen some models of these trams and they all seem to have just one cable...the operating one I built long ago just had one cable. But the real ones had this arrangement. I have no idea what the large wheels looked like, they seemed to be covered by some kind of structure in the photos I have seen. You may notice that there is one bucket being tipped and unloaded at the bin, one coming to the bin-being full of ore, and one going out to the mine, still tipped.
Again, the structures will be changed and since this is MY layout, I may name this little place Boquillas (bo-key-as) and move it across the river to Texas.

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Looking very good Woodie.  I imagine it will be much more dusty once the ground cover is in place.  Gotta love manually operated stub switches.  They really involve you in the operation and draw you into the scene.
As you can see I have been paying attention and learning.......thanks.

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Thanks Bob. Lots more to go! We tend to think alike on track, couplers, and scenery. have fun and run a train...I'm fixin' to run one now.

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Howdy Woodie :cb:



Nice proto-photo find with the adobe boulder-house !

It ROCKS !! 


:mex:


I've always been a big fan of the engineers at the Phoenix Mining Co. ! :thumb:





They always seem to find clever ways to get their ore moving !! :brill:





Gotta get that pay-dirt outta those hills somehow bouyz ! :old dude:



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I do like those buckets Woodie. Do they actually run or are they static?

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It's all static. I had my "thrill" with the operating bucket tram. The buckets are scratch, the tower is same, the large wheels are just plastic wagon wheels with grooves cut into them for the "cables". Still plenty to do with that area anyway.

Here's the "original" tram from the old Mogollon Railway. The buckets were made of brass, the cable was model ship rigging, and the drive was an old geared motor with "bull wheels" made from r/c airplane wheels with grooves cut into them

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I am enthralled with aerial trams.  They made mining in some locations practicable.  There are many still standing from California to Colorado, empty buckets swinging in the breeze heading nowhere.
Great historical reference in "Riding the High Wire, Aerial Mine Tramways in the West" by Robert A. Trennert  ISBN 0-87081-631-4  University of Colorado 2001
It is a quick read and very informative about the basically two different systems used in the west.  Love the model!

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Howdy Steven, I am also enthralled(?) with aerial tramways, monorails, and track gauges of 24" or less! I built a static monorail on my old Mogollon Railway along with that operating bucket tram. These days, I'm more into actual operating the trains than worrying about how to make something work. Old age I guess. Who knows, that pesky monorail idea may resurface...Hmmm.

Here's the monorail on the MRy. Not finished but it did make for a couple of ore cars in the ops scheme.

And here's a close up of the "locomotive", similar to ones that were used by the Epsom Salts monorail in Nevada. I still have this loco...so maybe..........

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Hello Woodie. Sure looks like the move away from Dallas has done the boy good.

The aerial ropeway bullwheels looked very like what you have used, from what I remember as a lad; they used to fascinate me too. Often used in Britain to tip colliery waste spoil onto the 'bing', the conical pit head waste tips a short distance away from the shaft headgear. I'd stick with what you've done, instantly evocative to me.

I think I remember that on some systems the returning empties stayed inverted but on others the loaded & empty skips all hung the same way up. All long gone over here. Replaced by tattoo parlours, hairdressers and welfare cheque cashing outlets. Hey-Ho. I believe it's called "progress".

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Michael "Replaced by tattoo parlours, hairdressers and welfare cheque cashing outlets. Hey-Ho. I believe it's called "progress".  "
That really sums it up for the U.S. as well.  It is sad commentary on the "progress" of our societies.  Maybe walking uphill to school in the snow wasn't so bad after all.
WoodieEvery time I see pictures of the ol' Mogollon monorail I find myself studying the picture.  Such a great model and scene.  Really sets the mind to work.

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Progress? Here's some progress with "downtown" Boquillas...











These 3 photos show what's happening now. I wanted smaller structures (all still 1:35 scale) since I wanted a wider "road" and some space between the "town" and the aerial tram and tipple across the road. Of course, nothing is finished or even close to finished but I feel that I now have a representation of what a little settlement along the border would look like. I built the small mission style church many years ago, am re-doing it and it will sit on the edge of the mesa overlooking the place. It seems that little churches were built on higher ground most times...probably to be above the distractions below. The home between boulders is built right into the mesa and a couple of other small adobe structures are being situated along the street. The wooden structure shown in the last photo will be the town's saloon. Since I can't get away from Mogollon altogether, I am naming this business the same as previous affairs except this is the third version and will have a Spanish name-Cabra Hinchada #3...or Bloated Goat #3 (third version). There will be a lean-to on the side with some guys playing poker & drinking (like before) and parking for Model T's, mules and horses, and whatever else shows up.
Remember, I wrote that this would be "warts & all" and so it is. But at least my ideas are coming together...for now at least.

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Lookin good, Pard--Real Good!

Now get rid of that TV in the railroad "room". Things like that cause work to get done only  during commercials. Nasty!

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Herb, the TV is gone from the garage. However, I still listen to Radio Moscow and Mozart...
...and the occasional Lennard Skinnard (redneck rock to the unwashed!)...oh yes, Willie & Waylon & the boys...you know.

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Sounds like Agustus McRea and Woodrow Call might pay a visit, well at least Gus, sounds like a place right up his alley.  Would that be up river or down from Lonesome Dove?

No TV in our train room either.  But my 'puter plays westerns and Jamie Johnson, Joe Ely, R.E. Keene... and of course Willie, Waylon and me, 'cause they heard that the Burritos out in California could fly higher than the Byrds.

That monorail is the most coolest.  There was the old Sonoma Prismodal Railway built out near Sonoma, CA the only problem was they they could figure out how to make a crossing.  It quickly became a standard two rail affair.  I would think that thing might be not too hard to power.  

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Steven, it would be a "do-able" project to make the monorail operate. The loco could have pinion gears (like what I used) and a tiny gearhead motor inside the dummy motor. The board and battery (r/c of course!) could be stashed in a car right behind and wired to the loco. I suppose a DC or DCC loco could be built but then the single rail would need to be powered as the side bearing structure...and all that would need to be exactly built so voltage would be routed correctly. I did build a working monorail on my ancient On20 layout. It was DC and had brass strips on the side bearers, positive voltage on the rail, negative on them. It did in fact run but I only had about 6 feet to run it on. It was so fiddly to make it go that I never ran it but once...just to say "yes, it runs!". A larger scale and r/c would make it much easier.

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Steven B posted

"they they could figure out how to make a crossing."

Now I'm thinking that you meant that they couldn't figure out how to make one--right?

Why not have a piece of track a little longer than the widest  car or loco width, mounted on a turntable arrangement?

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If the monorail needs to cross a "standard railroad" line then it could either go up & over on a trestle (not the best) or go under the track in a culvert of some sort. If you're meaning a crossing of 2 monorails, that would be a problem since on an "A" frame line (Sonoma & Epsom Salts monorails), there are side bearers to keep the equipment upright. I don't see how that could be "engineered" but then I ain't no engineer. I can see where a standard railroad would be better, capable of hauling more tonnage, etc. but the monorails were built in places where it would be damn near impossible to locate even an "extra narrow gauge" roadbed.
Remember however, there's a prototype for ANYTHING!

**Turntable, Hmmm, that's an idea to think about***

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 "extra narrow gauge" roadbed

I guess can't be narrower than just one rail... unless you slice it lengthwise.

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If I remember there is something on wiki.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lartigue_Monorail
scroll a bit down
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http://www.lartiguemonorail.com/index.php
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/71677537
http://www.aqpl43.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/lartigue/lartigue.htm
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Thanks for the links. The Epsom Salts line was a Lartigue type, the single rail laid on top of "A" frame structures. The last link MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO shows the line, slightly different info than in Myrick's Railroads of Nevada book. However, the photos show how narrow the canyon in the scene was...no "regular" rail line could be located there. Although the author of the piece couldn't see a loco, the "thing" with the umbrella sticking out the top is the loco. My "replica" of that loco was posted earlier. There was a nice article about this in an old Narrow Gauge & Short Line Gazette but I don't have that and don't remember the date.

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W C Greene wrote:

There was a nice article about this in an old Narrow Gauge & Short Line Gazette but I don't have that and don't remember the date.

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Thanks TC, I knew there was some info in an old Gazette. I sold my "collection"off about 10 or so years back and really haven't found anything interesting enough in the mag to spend $7 on lately. I do have the Myrick books about Nevada RR's and there is another bit of info in a little paperback I have. I may just find a bit of "real estate" on the new layout for a monorail terminal, there wasn't anything like that in the Bend...and no 2 foot railroad either...but I won't let such things get in my way!

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Yes, I had some information on the Sonoma monorail, but after the big move, I haven't been able to find much of it or anything else!  It must be in one of them thar totes in the future "Eastern Nevada."  Maybe my wife visited a landfill before we moved?
The word "prismodal" keeps popping into my head, as in "Sonoma Prismodal Railway."  As I can best remember it had some kind of "A" frame set up.  Regular public roads were unable to cross which is what led to its demise.  Probably not enough capital to tunnel or bridge somehow.  I don't know... what I do know is that I really like your idea for a monorail Mr. Green.

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Here's another view of my monorail effort, based on the Epsom Salts line in Nevada.The rail was atop the "A" frame supports, I believe this is what could be "prismodial".

Here you can see the supports. I placed them about 10 scale feet apart which appeared to be about right. I made these one at a time. On my old operating O scale monorail, I made a simple mold and cast the supports from resin. Either way, it is a time consuming task. As you can see, I named the line Boquillas Prismodial RR.i

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What the heck, here's another photo I found of the monorail. Like I mentioned, this was never "finished"

For that matter, whatever we do tends to not ever be "finished". Oh gee, now you have made me think about building another stinkin' monorail scene. DRATS!

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Man... that is just plain old cool.  Thanks for sharing!

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UPDATE: I may have found a bit of "real estate" for some monorail track...and another thing to fit into the operating scheme. Now, if I could just get all this stuff done, maybe I could actually do some OPERATING!

***The extra land will need to be stuck on near the aerial tram tipple. More work!***

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I knew it...
Jose.

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Jose, it ain't gonna be a working monorail...just static. That's one can o' worms I am not going to open! I still need to build the "A" frames anyway.

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ain't gonna be a working monorail...just static.
... famous last words...
Time will tell...
Jose.

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Nope, I learned my lesson...I build working models that run on 2 rails! Besides, I will only have about 6 feet of "track"...

But remember...never say never

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I will only have about 6 feet of "track".
EVERY layout started with "but dear, it will be only a little 6' shelf"...
Jose.

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Hey Woodie,

I have a 1923 Chevy 1 ton stake bed truck just gathering dust. It is 6" long, 2" wide. The figure is 2" tall. The hood opens to reveal the engine.   If this  would fit your modeling scale, I'll send it to you free of charge.

If interested, PM your mailing address.   Larry Gant

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Thanks Larry, I can always use another cool old truck...especially a TEXACO truck!
Now, on to the usual BS...
OK, the monorail subject is about to be done, or rather about finished. I rescued the old monorail "locomotive" and one old "gondola" and built about 12 "A" frame supports. I laid some code 83 rail atop the supports and have glued them down to the layout. I added about 8" more land near the aerial tramway and the little village of Boquillas.








So far...I just "staged" these little scenes just to see what it will look like. You may notice a straight pin with ball top holding down the frames, these will keep things in line while the glue dries. There is a long siding next to this thing which I originally just used for ore car storage but is now the "connection" with the ore brought in by the monorail from up in the distant hills and canyons, another place to switch cars in & out. Like I wrote, there's just about 6 feet of "track" and that's all I want. NO, this will not be operational...it is just scenery. But it got models that I had stashed in dusty boxes and filled the need for something "different" to do while the weather is lousy and I just feel like messing with something different.
Today, new years' eve, it is about 18 degrees and some sleet on the ground...just a fine day to mess around in the heated garage.

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Hehehehe, very cool. I like it because it is very unique and nicely executed.

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Now, back to 2 rail stuff...
Many years ago, my little On20 Mogollon Railway (long before the 1:35 layout) was "Shay powered" with modified MDC HOn3 Shays upscaled to On20. One of these still runs on the Gila Tram mini layout. Anyway, since I was into DC then, I wanted to be able to run one lokie at a time without any blocks, etc. so what I came up with was to install small magnetic reed switches in the locos' cabs which turned them on & off when I passed a magnet across the cab roof. This worked like a charm and later on, I wanted to duplicate the plan on my 1:35n2 r/c locos-still Shays. The problem was that I ordered the "correct" Circuitron parts that I had used before but by now, the company had changed the parts (same #) and apparently "cheapened" the things. I spent the dinero and bought a couple from the LHS and installed one in a loco. It promptly burned out. I installed the other one and it did the same, there is actually less power concerns in the larger locos and battery than on the old layout. I called the company and they told me that the parts were the "same thing" as before...no they WEREN'T. Oh well, I went on and used tiny SPST switches to turn off the batteries. These worked fine but I got fed up with having to get my big old fingers on the tiny switches every time I wanted to run or shut her down.
Lately, I found that MOUSER ELECTRONICS (I don't work for them or have any connection-I send them money & get the parts) has the switches that are EXACTLY what I used before! And since they weren't "made for model trains" or some such BS, they were cheap...about $2.50 each! So I ordered a pack of 10(in case I screwed one or two up) on a Tuesday...by Wednesday (one day later) the parts arrived at my door! What service! Now, I am about 100 miles from Mouser but still...
So, I will now install them in my lokies and then not have to touch the damn things unless they need a charge or jump the track.
When I get the job done, I will post some photos.
I can let out the "secret" part # if anybody wants it.
That's my story for today....

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Woodie,

Now you're gonna have to divulge all your information on these reed switches.

Sounds like a simple and easy way to take care of an issue.  I'm thinking they don't take up as much room as a SPST and are easier to hide.

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Echo what Michael said.  I have micro slide switches in all my little engines and am not crazy about having to pick them up all the time to turn on and off.  I have thought about reed switches but they are all either normally open or normally closed requiring a magnet to be present.  One of the DelTang receivers has built in circuitry to operate with a reed switch.  Otherwise it is necessary to have a separate switching circuit.  Interested in what you are doing for sure.

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OK, I will fix a loco and post some pix. These are normally open switches and I plan to "hide" the magnet in a tool box or some other bit of "detail" which can sit near the switch. I used the on/off switches long ago but had lights in the locos so I could tell when they were turned off. This way, I just have to remove the magnet and she's turned off.
More on the news update at 11!!!

BTW, the info from MOUSER are Little Fuse #934-MRPR-20-22-38...they are about $2.64 each (not 2.55) if you get a pack of 10 then it is $25.50. I was very pleased with the prompt service. MOUSER's phone # 800-346-6873 and they take all known or unknown debit & credit cards.

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Here's the switch and a metric ruler for size. Also shown is a small piece of a burned out can motor magnet which activates the switch. As you can see, the switch can be mounted somewhere on the locomotive and the tiny magnet can be inside a tool box, etc. which is then laid in proximity to the switch and it is "ON", remove the tool box and it's "OFF". Very easy and this gets rid of the pesky little toggle switches. The local Hobby Town has "rare earth" micro magnets which would work but I had this magnet and my being cheap, would rather spend $0 than spend $15 for a few magnets. Now, to install the switches...that will happen in a while. More to come.





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Also keep in mind that, if you have to bend the terminals, MUST hold them with pliers between the switch and where you want to bend them. Otherwise the glass will break.
Jose.

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Yep, I know that also. I used these over 20 years ago on my On20 layout and learned what one can and cannot do. I just converted Shay #1 and will post pix when I am through running it to the mines. Needless to report, it works fine. BTW, I broke down and bought a pack of teeny tiny rare earth magnets (100 for $13.00) and these are perfect for the purpose. No more messing with tiny SPST switches...wunnerfull!

Now, photos:





Coal bunker in #1, the reed switch is glued with Elmers (just to be safe) behind the coal boards and painted flat black. The old on/off switch wires were soldered to each side of the switch. The wires, etc. will be "cleaned up" later.





The tiny rare earth magnet has been glued to a piece of wood, later to be fixed up as a tool box or something else. This is shown to the right of the water hatch.





The little piece of wood & magnet is in place on top of the switch. The board is now active. The magnet has enough power to stay in place without any hassles. I made a pair of plastic tweezers to be able to take the magnet off the switch, it would attach itself to a metal tweezer. I may make a more rugged tweezer from brass later but am now having fun running, switching, and not having to mess with a silly little SPST... I am very happy.

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PS, looking at the above pix, I realize that I need to do "something" to the coal! I just love photos of incorrect stuff!!!

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Must be one of those newer highly fuel efficient models......it looks like the coal has gotten dusty.
Ordered a bunch of reed switches today.  Will be converting my fleet soon.  Then will only need to touch when removing to charge.  Thanks for the inspiration.

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That's great Bob...Your r/c life will be easier for sure. I found that I could use a piece of an old motor magnet to energize the switches but settled on the teeny rare earth magnets. I don't have too many spare motors and want to keep them assembled. I have since modified the little magnets, instead of making tool boxes, etc., I attached one or two to a piece of wood or plastic strip using CA and then painted them bright red. When not in use, they attach themselves to the locos' pins in the couplers and I can always see where they are. Plus the brass tweezer that I made makes it all ultra simple...just what I wanted! And remember what Jose warned about-be VERY CAREFUL bending the leads on the switches, they can get broken with too much horsepower. I learned that long ago, thankfully.

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OK then, here are three "last"photos of what's happening at the Boquillas Prismoidal RR interchange with the "Big Bend RR"(no, I haven't got around to an incorporated name yet!) at Boquillas, TX.





The "engineer" is showing off his new little puppy (inside his shirt) that he rescued from down in one of the canyons. Some of the "doings" in the little town can be seen in the background.





Here's a view of one of the monorail's cars built to haul sacks of cinnabar (mercury ore) which will then be loaded on a flat car, over the trucks, then hauled to the standard gauge interchange at Terlingua for the trip to the processing plant.





Here's another view of the "bag car" and the overhead hoist used for unloading the sacks and loading any equipment that is needed by the mines way down in the canyons. One of the fellows is unloading ore from the monorail to an ore car for delivery to the smelter.

The monorail scene is probably about finished, I am interested in working on a new mine with it's own "baby gauge" railroad.

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Very effective scene.  All the activity in the town along with the laborers working the exchange between the monorail and narrow gauge really bring it life.  Looks like a photograph taken a long time ago.

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Now we're talking.  Woody your scene "rocks"!  :thumb:  That is very well executed.

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Following up on use of reed switches.....
Ordered a batch from Mouser.  As you indicated they were received quite quickly.  Have converted all eight of my engines - love not having to pick up and turn on or off.  
I mounted the reed switches under the cab floor on the steam engines.  Using a piece of plastic straw and wire I turned the batteries into buckets.  Still need to fill the buckets with something.  
Thanks for the motivation.

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Bob, excellent! I have been operating much more since I got rid of the pesky little SPST's or whatever they were! After looking at your bucket/magnet, I think that I'll make my magnets into coiled up hose or something. The switches are between the coal load and water hatch on the Shays and vertically installed on the Porters. I think that I was too interested in getting things running again to devise some "detail" to hide the magnets. BTW, what kind of magnets did you use? The little rare earth jobs? I know that you are happy with this "conversion"...

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Yes - rare earth 1/4 x 1/8 magnets.  Very pleased with the outcome.  Understand the comment about running more now.  

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Here is a photo of "Hairpin Curve" as I built it on the late Silver City narrow gauge layout. I couldn't scrap this piece so it is the "centerpiece" of the new Bend layout.
I will post a photo of how it has been re-located from New Mexico to the Big Bend.  Matter of fact, the track leading to the curve is quite similar to the way it is here.

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Here is the "Hairpin Curve" in it's new situation...just about the same as the old situation.











Since I don't have "proper" lighting as yet, ye gets what ye pays fer...
On this freezing day in Texas, I opened the garage door which let out the nice warmth but allowed these pix. 
The curve has "sprouted" more flora and a sharp eye might be able to see a roaming puma (mountain lion) which frequent places in the Bend.
Lots have changed but the place remains about the same. 

One thing that used to bother me was a 6% or so grade on the far side of the curve in it's original form, 
now it is flat, in fact, the only grades on this layout now are these here on the curve, about 2% or less. 

My poor old lokies were wearing out from the 10% on the outdoor Mogollon and an almost as heavy grade on the Silver City line. 
Less is more, at least in grades VS locomotives.



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Looks great!  

To reduce the grade did you re-lay the track?  

Also, in my experience however, if you see a big cat, it is generally too late! :shocked:


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Howdy Steven, no I didn't do anything to the curve except introduce some greenery. Out there in NM, the location of the real curve is now "alive" with shrubs & trees...a far cry of what it looked like in 1907 or so. The track on either side of the curve is pretty much level. One side of the layout is 2% lower than the other side, or vice versa. I will try to take some better pix of what is now VS what was then. I tried to reuse as much of the layout as possible, I spent too much time & dinero building it to just trash it out. I still have much to do and boxes of "details" to include. Fun, fun, fun...





Here's the photo that started it all..."Hairpin Curve" on the Silver City, Pinos Altos, & Mogollon RR. Love that cabless Shay!





And a look at the under construction curve with little #1 and train in much the same pose as the original.

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Good job incorporating the old hairpin loop. You should buy a warehouse so you can just keep building new modules for us to enjoy.

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Brewdreau fellers..
Found you..boo waaw aw hahahahahah SO..Uuum..the idear about these engine sheds is that a railway will be familial in designs of buildings and lokey s/ rolling stocks..
same dude designs stuff.goes with what he knows..and etc..
I don't know where this message will fall 
Probably at the bottom of the thread...But foam is great stuff..I bought a hot wire foam factory years ago..one of the most clever things I have done.
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I think all railroads will have some kind of family appearance.  Class 1 railroads much more than narrow gauge shortlines.


I took a old solder gun, took some brass wire bent to the desired shape, and screwed it into the two terminals on the solder gun to make my own 'hot wire' tool.  What can I say...I'm cheap!

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Hot wire cutter...I just screwed together 3 pieces of old 1X2 pine into a "C" shape, put a screw in each end of the "C", then ran some nichrome wire between the screws along with wires from an old Marklin power pack I have and when I turned the thing on full out, the wire cuts through blue & pink foam like "burnin' hell"...cost was about 3 bucks for the hot wire. I love it when a plan comes together.
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Woodie,

What gauge of nichrome wire would work?

I got a couple of old Lionel transformers that would probably work.

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Michael, I just went to the LHS (Hobby Lobby would have this also) and bought Woodland Scenics hot wire. I don't know what gauge it is but looks similar to 20 gauge solid wire. This stuff is in 6 foot lengths for around 3 bucks. Probably any craft store would have the wire, many folks are into cutting foam for things other than making model rr scenery...I suppose there ARE other hobbies besides this one!!

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Continuing onward...some years ago I spent a bunch of time building this little sawmill for the old Mogollon Railway. This operation was just to supply ties, mine props, and trestle timbers, not your large lumber mill.





But then when I dismantled the outdoor layout and moved into the living room with the Silver City line, I couldn't find a place for this structure and it sat on a shelf...almost forgotten and getting dusty and full of cobwebs. With the new layout, I was determined to find some place for this. After all, I had spent all this time and made all this stuff and had no place...again. But then...











I managed to make room for one of my favorite things, the little sawmill. Right across the "street" from the little town of Boquillas I fitted in some more "land" and provided a few more jobs for the locals and another customer for the railroad. Of course there are more "details" to add and how about that be-ute-full old Chebby truck and 2 wheeler provided by Larry G up in the Dakotas. She needs some weathering but won't get as nasty as the old Ford TT sitting next to her. And now I have a job for the little CAT dozer, helping to load timber into the mill. Yep, the CAT was sitting unused also. All in all, it has been a nice project and all I had to do was add some "land" and dirt.

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Looking Great!!! :cool:  

Nice addition and am glad that you were able to dust it off and put it into service on the new layout.  

I seem to remember it from older posts, but it is a nice little mill.  

I knew a guy once who had a Gypo Mill, yours is not too far from what he had, although his was on a trailer, but about the same size.

That economic turn around is spreading, I love new start ups.  :2t:


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And now, something a bit different...

Some years ago (when I had a couple of extra buck$), I bought a Bachmann On30 2-4-4-2,
and promptly perverted it over to 1:35n2 with a new cab, larger bell & whistle, and crew.
Plus, the tender frame was rebuilt with a wooden job and could carry the r/c equipment and 1600 MAH 2 cell battery. 

Here she was after that "fun"...






I liked the job and put her to work...but that l o n g front end with the lead truck bothered me and it hung out too much, 
so I had to whack on scenery and really couldn't use the front coupler to haul ore cars. Oh well.

When I built the Silver City layout, there was no place on a Shay powered line for such a long & lanky lokie, 
and besides, I was "trying" to replicate a railroad that didn't own anything like her. 
So, she sat in a display case and looked forlorn.

The other day, I got mad at one of my Shays for liking to "take hikes" and not stay on the track. 
One Shay runs great but one is acting like.............
So, I looked at the tiny articulated again and recharged her battery. 
She runs like silk and can haul some cars, but that damned front end! What to do?






I got out the Dremel and cut off the long pilot, getting rid of the lead truck. 
And while I was at it, I built a new cab and did some work on the tender. 
She's now an 0-4-4-2 and looks like what I wanted anyway. 
She can now couple up at the pilot and haul cars bakasswards...no need (or capabilities) to turn her around. 
One way forward, other way tender-first.






I'm still thinkin' about the rear truck, she may become an 0-4-4-0 but right now I have a dependable and cool little engine.
I will find a crewman who can sit on the tender and watch the tracks while she runs tender first, but that's another story.



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Wow, that looks great!  

Will you remount the headlight high on the boiler, or are you just going to leave it off.  

It looks like a lugger, low and slow.


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Definitely an improvement over the stock 2-4-4-2 configuration.

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I like the revamped proportions without the pilot truck - the mallet looks more brutish and ready to work

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Well, I haven't thought about a headlight yet...maybe not. 
The railroad is a private industrial line which doesn't run at night.
If any feds show up griping about such "laws" then remember that this is the Big Bend and folks get lost easily down here!


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I've heard that the chupacabre is attracted to bright objects, like headlights...




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CHUPACABRA!  :w:  

Hay carrumba!


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Chupie sez "Howdy
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From long ago & far away... It was a dark and moonless night.

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The 2-4-4-2 is one of my favorite prototype locomotives. 

Soon one of the remaining ones will be operating on the Oregon Scenic Railroad a tourist line out of Tillamook, Oregon. 
I had last saw it in pieces laying on the ground at Snoqualmie Falls, WA back in the middle 1960's and after all these years it finally will be operating again soon. 

It was originally built for the Little River Railroad at Townsend, TN and then later went to the Carlisle Lumber Co. at Onalaska, WA, 
and ended up on the Deep River Logging Co. at Deep River, WA. 

In 1955 it derailed while backing up on a short trestle and landed on its side in a steam bed. 
Since the railroad only had a few months of work left they decided to just leave it there in the woods. 

A railfan bought it from the scrappers as is and they had to remove it in pieces since by this time the tracks had been removed and there were no roads nearby.  

It was Construction #33463 built in 1909 and weighed 71 tons and had a traction effort of 27,430 lbs.

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Here's their Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/OregonCoastScenicRR/

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I mentioned that the "new" Mallet had to run backwards half the time and needed a crewman to sit on the tender to keep watch, along with the fireman, for problems on the track. 
After a few "volunteers", this one fellow got the job. 
He used to be a crewman on the old Mogollon Ry, with the same job on that railroad.






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And here is an old photo of the same dude "watching" from the pilot of a MRy Shay.





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Surprising he hasn't fallen off given all his drinkin'.


Woodie,

What size are the ties you use?  I've been cutting some ties out of 3/16" thick basswood.  Thought I'd try a little hand laying track.

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No amount of book learnin' beats experience. Sounds like you picked the right feller.

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Thought I'd recognize that feller.

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A while back, the Supt.'s Model T rail truck ran off the rails and injured the Super, the truck was a "total". 

Since then, the track inspections had to be made with an old T model "depot hack" which wasn't fitted with flanged wheels, bumping along the ROW on old bald tires. 
The damn hack was bumpy and jumpy enough but the inspection trip was causing the Super to be in a bad mood almost every day. 
Something had to be done!







The old "depot hack" was converted into a useful rail truck by the shop crew...
making the Super happy and saved him from a sore butt and nasty mood.






Here is the result in a nice full color hand tinted view and a untouched black & white photo.

Some info: 
The new truck has the same old Grandt 80:1 Micro Mo and the lead truck from the old T, 
but the power truck is a cast off from a friend's broken Bachmann HO Climax as are the drive components. 
The hack's open body was closed in with styrene sheathing and the pilot was from the old T also. 
The original 160MAH 2 cell Li Po battery and r/c receiver was used. 
Top speed of the new truck is....about 7 MPH.







Here is the "donor" for the new truck. 
Photo taken just before the old truck left the rails and took the Super on a little "trip" through some cactus and rocks.
As a previous US President quoted..."Change is good!"



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And while we are at it, the railroad has it's 1940 gas-mechanical back on line.







#6 Dee (named for my ops buddy Jim's wife) was sidelined for some time due to cracked gears in the mechanism. 
The unnamed manufacturer (Bachmann) provided parts that were not good enough to be used on a hard working piece of motive power. 

I found (in one of 1,000 or so little boxes of stuff) several nice Samhongsa HO diesel gear towers with helical gears of steel and brass, quality stuff. 

With some fiddlin', the gear tower and driven wheels were adapted to the Botchmann siderods and frames, 
and a "new" motor (an old flat can Sagami) was set up to provide very nice operation.

So now, besides a new 0-4-4-2 and the rail truck shown earlier, this lokie has eased the load on the road's 2 old and tired Shays. 
But I still LOVE them Shays!



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What a delight of a thread!!!

You know I forgive you everything but that d...d monorail keep laughing at me and killing me again and again knowing I will come back many times to look at it!!!

And the chopping of the pilot track of the Mallet was really what it needed.

:apl:  :apl:   :apl:   :apl:   :apl:   :apl:   :apl:   :apl:   :bow:

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Where are you, Texano vago???


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Howdy Daniel, I'm still here but these days I would rather work on my layout and run trains...photos and thread updates aren't my priority right now. 
I will try to send something "new" when I feel like it. I have a feeling that some are tired of my drivel anyway.
I'm glad to see you here where your artistry can be appreciated.
Take care...

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Dear Woodie

I can understand you think that some are tired of your drivel ... 

I warned you: abuse of alcohol can cause the mind to go crazy and think such things. :bang:

But it is good that you take your freedom to post whenever you feel to do so.

At my island you, your comments and certainly your work are always welcome.

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Howdy Daniel...no, there's no alcohol abuse with me, it was abusive enough when I was a younger dude! 
However, here are a couple of "employees" on the tender of #5 "watching" the backing operation"...






And they are drinking in front of the Supt. at the engine house!
Now, a new operation for those who want to "see the sights"of the Big Bend-the Gila Tram. 
The employees are cleaning up in preparation for the day's "flood" of tourists!











The tram has an ancient REO touring car modified to become a tour "bus" with an open air body and old Model T car seats. 
The mechanic is working on the radiator.
Background scenery includes the famous "window" rock and a view of the incredible garage door.



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Howdy Woodie  :cb:



Looks like Big Bend 2' is going GREAT ! in your new 'country retreat' double-garage.  :)





AWESOME scene !  :thumb:



And a VERY mysterious tunnel.  :P  ???



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Presumably the steeds are being limbered up in case the radiator can't be fixed and a different type of horsepower is needed to get the old tourist bus moving!:old dude:

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WOW...!!!!
Great, Woodie to see you back on track and at full steam!!!
Delightful images!!!
I hope you are not going to spare camera but keep posting lots of photos.
The building is beautiful!
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Layout is lookng good!

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Thanks Bill. I have been furiously working on something new...a wax factory. 

In the 1900's, the Bend had several "factories" which "rendered" wax from the candelaria plant. 
The wax was used in lubricants, candles(duh!), polishes, and...CHEWING GUM! 
It is still sought after today for scented candles sold to fru-fru upwardly mobile noveau-rich millennials and other such snoot in the air types. 
And yes, they still use it for CHEWING GUM! 

When I post some pix, I will relate more info (or an internet search can inform) about the wax and my model of a factory. 
NOTE- this is not an on-line industry served by the narrow gauge, the plants are brought in on burros and barrels of wax are sent out in old Model TT trucks. 

Geez, I gotta get a life!

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Be nice if those Model TT trucks could match the locos and be RCd as Giles Favell does with his vehicles!

http://www.freerails.com/view_topic.php?id=3749&forum_id=45



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Lovely shots on this discussion.

Sitting here looking ay my own model parts and thinking: O.k. I need a similar sort of layout experience of my own, time to get cutting and gluing. :P

Thank you for the continuous inspiration.

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Doug, with my luck, the r/c Model TT would run off the layout and #$%^&*...Giles is a master, I am but a caveman blacksmith.

Back to the wax works.
Woodie

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I bet Neolithic man didn't say that when he invented the wheel!!!:brill:

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Been hearing all "the wax" since page 1:

"wax which was used for lubricants, polish, and, yes, candles.
Matter of fact, the snooty "new age" types still love the candles made from the plant to add "atmosphere" to their million dollar homes.
Imagine what a cool model that would be! I may in fact build something like this for the layout."

13 pages later:

"I have been furiously working on something new...a wax factory.
...wax was used in lubricants, candles(duh!), polishes, and...CHEWING GUM!
It is still sought after today for scented candles sold to fru-fru upwardly mobile noveau-rich millennials and other such snoot in the air types."

OK we've heard all the "wax".
Where's the works?

Lots of talk and Chewing gum?
But no photos.

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OK, ya want photos?











The wax factory as it is now...unfinished. 
More info is available on the Silver City Narrow Gauge thread which I posted there not thinking at the time.






Here's another view of the "Hairpin Curve" which is now the wax factory's location. 
The area in front of the horse & rider back to the hills beyond is "prime real estate".



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I am waiting for new photos... :old dude:

Yeah...! So do I. :y:

We all are getting nervous so you better post some images soon... :mex::mex::mex::mex::mex::mex::mex:

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I have been "busy" with this n' that...here's something new however. 
While reading about rolling stock in the GILPIN ERA book, I became "interested" in the GT's little cabooses (cabeese?) and decided to build something similar. 
For more "inspiration", I sat at this here computer for a bit and while doing so, I ran my little Gilpin Tram On20 layout for a while. 

As I looked up to watch the tiny Shay and it's train of GT ore cars and tiny caboose...and there she was! Just exactly what I wanted to build, again. 
The little hack was built for my old On20 Mogollon Railway and is about 20 something years old.






On the right is the original, complete with it's ancient Central Valley HOn3 (On20) sprung arch-bar trucks. 
At one time she had just 4 wheels but tended to bounce around (that's why they call em' bouncers) too much for me. 
And she still has the old M2Ry lettering. This little gal has more real miles on her than many real ones!






So after several days of building and thinking and memories (the Gilpin Tram layout was owned by my late buddy Joe Bostick and he ran the train most every day)...
I rolled this red job outta the shops. Built of basswood with an aircraft plywood frame and rolling on some old Grandt Line SR&RL trucks. 
The red paint is old also, Floquil lacquer "AT&SF Red" which looks like what I wanted.
So there they are, the little one is over 20 and the big one is less than a week old. 
Now the little one can go back to work trailing her tiny train and the big one will be trailing ore cars from Terlingua to Boquillas.

    JUST EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED



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GREAT!!!

Beautiful furgones de cola, Woodie.

Plenty of character and perfectly fitting the scene.

Number 2 looks also beautiful.

Thank you for sharing.

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The Gila Tram, the tour bus line in the Big Bend, needed something larger to carry more tourists through the canyons and scenery of the bend. 
They had only an old REO touring car adapted with a larger roof and it could only carry maybe 7 or 8 folks...hardly a paying proposition. 

Something needed to be done and when word came that up in Alpine, TX there was an old British double decker bus, 
which was being used as a roadside promotion for a "snake and lizard" show, 
the Gila owners jumped into action and bought the non-running hunk of rusty metal, hauling it down to the "offices" in Terlingua. 

There the old curiosity was rebuilt and adapted to a life along the Rio Grande river. 
The original motor was a piece of rusted junk so the mechanic found a suitable 1930 Ford Model A truck motor, 
and some other parts of the Ford, the hood and radiator and the front wheels. 

The bus also got a set of old military truck rear wheels which all replaced the ancient hard rubber tires, 
which wouldn't give a good ride along the dirt and rocky roads in the park.
 
Well, that's my little story about this machine.











So, here she is with a nice new green and tan paint job, ready to haul some visitors from Terlingua down to Boquillas.






And here is a wretched photo of the first "run" to the dusty little border town. 
A bit more "detail", maybe some seated tourists, some "stuff" lashed down on the roof, and the Tram's name on the side will be added as I see fit. 
But now I have spent some time building this thing and full ore cars are waiting at the mines so back to work.

Ingredients: 
Airfix 1:32 scale Omnibus kit, Lindberg 1:32 scale Model A pickup kit, 
radiator and front wheels/tires from a diecast 1:32 Model A, 
rear wheels/tires from a 1:35 scale military 4 X 4 kit, and some razor saw work.



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Excellent job, Woodie!

 :2t: :apl::apl::apl::2t:

Looks very good. 
The mix is a very good, interesting one and in this moment here Mr. Wallet hates you.

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Great combination Woodie. 

The tourists should miss nothing of the scenery - assuming they can see through the dust!



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So, here she is with a nice new green and tan paint job, ready to haul some visitors from Terlingua down to Boquillas.



Quite the creative kitbash. 

I really like its color scheme.



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Great work on the ol' Airfix bus !  :thumb:





You musta chopped 2 or 3 of these over the years now, by my reckoning.  L:

The new front end is a nice mod.  :)



Yeah ... I agree with Forrest ... fancy paint job !  :P



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Si, I first built the Airfix double kit-bus and fire truck...and then a bus. 
All the models went "south" in the hot Tejas sun. The new ones will not get such a cruel fate. 
The next bus I do will have a Model T hood & radiator. 
I just don't care for the old "box" style hood and besides, I can't build something correctly anyway.


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Howdy Woodie  :cb:



I noticed  EVENTUALLY that on this 'Airfix' bus of yours ... the    l  o  n  g   front hood ...

... is 'Woodies Custom Shop' shortened.  :shocked:





Probably running a BIG Harley motor or sumtink ?  L:

Wish I'd shortened mine a bit ... I figured I could have lost 1 section of windows as well ...

... AFTER the darn critter was all M.E.K.ed to hell !  :f:



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LINK & PIN COUPLER CONVERSION:

OK, the T GS & B uses link & pin (Lincoln Penn) couplers but the gasoline/mechanical "DEE" has looked sorta out of place with just l&p coupler pockets. 
I have seen "conversions" between them and knuckle couplers in "real life" and photos. 
I remember seeing knuckles coupled to links in person at the old West Side Lumber Co. before they went down. 

Sooooo, this rainy (here in Tejas) morning I was "cleaning out" some funky old boxes of "treasures" which mostly got pitched out. 
I did find an old "O" scale dummy knuckle coupler and thought "Hmmm, a rainy day project!". 
With a new cut-off wheel, some pliers and a little #72 drill bit, I made ONE conversion coupler. Here 'tis:







From the book WEST SIDE PICTORIAL by Ferrell, here's a photo by Bill Laux showing just what I saw for myself long ago...
a knuckle coupler fitted with a cut out knuckle and a pin connected to a l&p coupler. 

The WSLCo (and others) used these on locos also, matter of fact they were installed on both their little IC lokies.







My version...Using the old dummy coupler, I drilled a hole through the knuckle, cut a slot for the link, 
and after cutting the shank a bit, I cut it to fit into Dee's coupler pocket and drilled another #72 hole to hold this in the pocket.












Here it is shown mounted in Dee's pocket with a "proper" pin so it could be taken out if needed. 
Yep, she walks, she talks, and she couples to any of the "old style" cars. 

I thought of using a beautiful, operating set of brass PSC couplers but will wait now to find another old dummy in a box of crap. 
As the old bit goes- "If it ain't Scottish, it's craaaaap!" I must have a lot of Scottish parts here.



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That works!





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Very clever, Woodie.
And useful!!!



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