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Well, here I go once more...building (or rather re-building and changing) a new layout. I finally got moved to "the boonies" where life is slower which befits my inherent slowness anyway. Now, I have a 2 car garage (will never be used to house gas guzzlers) which has become my "train domain" and where I have been spending valuable TV watching time (I have a TV out there too). The almost "finished" SCPA&M RR has been taken apart and the sections have been set up similar to the layout I had in the living room but what once fit with one piece now connects with a different piece (or pieces). A track plan will be posted soon as well as "in progress"

After deciding to "come back" to Texas and modeling a railroad that my friend James Sullivan wanted to create (James is now into HO diesels and English steam, what a combination!), I present the theme of the new layout.
Yes, the same old SCPA&M lokies, rolling stock, track layout (well, the enginehouse and yards) and some of the structures will be reused, re-purposed, and generally left alone.
http://freerails.com/view_topic.php?id=6332&forum_id=17
Here's a link to Silver City Narrow Gauge layout that I was building, it may be helpful to see where this all started.
Why Big Bend (a wild and wooly area that runs along the Rio Grande River which is the boundary between the US and Mexico)...well, just because I want to model it!. Future posts will reveal my fascination with this place.
I actually wanted to build a layout in the Bend when I built the old Mogollon Railway but was "hooked" on the area of New Mexico where the old town is located. More on this later on also. Much to do and relate but as for now, I am back home in Texas, railroad-wise.

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I have never been to the Big Bend area of Texas so am looking forward to watching your new build. Other than the Rio Grande river, is this a dryish location like the others you have modeled? Larry Gant

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" The almost "finished" SCPA&M RR has been taken apart and the sections have been set up similar to the layout I had in the living room
but what once fit with one piece now connects with a different piece (or pieces).
A track plan will be posted soon "



Howdy Woodie :cb:



Your new double-garage sounds like a pretty cool hangout ! :cool:

I hope the SCPA&M RR sections from 'Dullass' had a comfortable trip to Royse City ! :)



I suspect you might just be finding a place for your old trestle to the smelter there somewhere. ?

We'll see ! :bg:



Don't rush the trackplan Woodie  .  .  .  :mex:

You know it's best to draw those AFTER the layout has been built !! :shocked: ;)



:moose:



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I glad to hear your getting settled in. I would like to come visit and drink a Shiner or 12 sometime now that your not in the metro mess. I try like hell not to go to Dullass. I prefer out in the sticks myself. 
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Smart move Woodie-- the railroad can haul material for the GREAT WALL!
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As old Bob would say-"come on down (or up)" I was in hell (Dullass) today and it sucks as bad as ever!

To the BIG BEND, of course there were no railroads there except for some mine trams and a cool aerial tramway over to Boquillas in Mehico. Therefore, I figger that my track plan and general idea will become "the prototype". I will go back to my roots of making a layout that is pure fiction, I found (well, I already knew) that following a prototype can become a real hassle unless you are prepared to surrender your vision. Many can do that but I ain't one.
Who's to say that the guys who built the SCPA&M didn't look further south after the New Mexico 2 footer closed up in 1907? It was done many times when mines played out and others looked promising. The Big Bend area had been mined for centuries before railroads were around and there are still some old prospector types in them hills today. Gold, silver, mercury, and some others are found in "the Bend" and one other commodity which is/was profitable-the processing of candelaria plants into wax which was used for lubricants,
polish, and, yes, candles. Matter of fact, the snooty "new age" types still love the candles made from the plant to add "atmosphere" to their million dollar homes.

Matter of fact, here's a photo of a real wax factory taken in about 1918. Imagine what a cool model that would be! I may in fact build something like this for the layout. The metals smelter is way too large for a proper operation in 1:35 but this could be modeled.
The little book BIG BEND: A history of the last Texas frontier  by Ronnie Tyler (shown in the first post) is a National Park handbook and most of the photos shown (like this one) are not credited and are "public domain". There are more photos...many more...which will be shown later on.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjO7cr-i43XAhUpxoMKHWSiDIwQFghIMAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FBig_Bend_National_Park&usg=AOvVaw29-RNh2_ZeVaE-XRok1GCi
Here is a link from Wikipedia which has some neat info about the area.
More stuff and some actual modeling coming up soon.

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Sounds like a fun project-I will be a-watching

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Woodie,


It will be fun to follow your progress with the new layout!  Looking forward to you upcoming posts.


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Certainly a different and unusual mining operation, looks like a number of ATLAS HO water tanks could be used for the open topped tanks.

Looking forward to your new layout.

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"IT DOESN"T MATTER IF YOU WIN OR LOSE, IT"S HOW YOU RIG THE GAME"

I have thought that this is one of the better "tag lines" ever since Woodie started using it. Just to prove that the man "practices what he preaches", I dug this up from the past--






Woodie (white hair, seated) has just been passed a couple aces by Jesus (waiter, walking away)


Herb (who was there in spirit)

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Ken, the old Atlas tanks would be just right! I will have to look at the "flea market" while the Plano train show is going on soon. Of course, knowing me, I may get "antsy" and make the damn things from Pringles cans or something like that. Thanks for the idea!
Herb-yes, the old dudes playing "poker" down at the Bloated Goat #2...what fun that was! It's all in how you rig it...

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Well, I am still workin' on the railroad. It helps that I already had built most of it (the old SCPA&M) but I had to make some new pieces and of course, the premise changed. No longer the hard-core ore hauler, this railroad still serves some mines in the "Bend" but now has another source of revenue-the wax trade. And (due to the freelanced nature of this), the time is now circa 1950 or so. That's so I can use my beloved 49' Merc and Ford Tudor. Great reason for a time change, nicht whar?
So, here are some photos of new stuff with explanations.


This 70-some foot, 35 foot high trestle was needed to cross Boquillas Canyon. Needless to report, it still needs more "detailing" , better scenery, and proper facia to finish it off.


A new 3 stall enginehouse is being built, I loved the "prototype" 7 stall SCPA&M structure but needed a smaller one and the width of this section was trimmed down by about 18". Also gone is the smelter complex and large slag pile behind the "original"...I never really liked the slag pile (too much blackness) and in 1:35 scale, the smelter was just "too much" for me to model. If I was in HO or N, I might could have built a reasonable smelter but how much BS would I put up with to model HOn2 or Nn2? NO WAY! This enginehouse is stucco over brick and when finished will remind me of my old On20 and 35n2 Mogollon Railway, I love the look.

Then, there's this. At the "other end" of the line, there's a turntable and small yard and my ops buddy Dave suggested that I keep one of the Porters here to do some switchin'... and build a small enginehouse. This one is similar to the big 3 staller on the other end, the idea being that both structures were built by the same crew. Besides, I love the look. Both buildings have/will have shutters instead of windows since the details I intend to put inside are not very visible through punky windows, I want to see the details myself and not leave them to the spiders to appreciate!
Both structures are made from styrofoam planks, ripped down on my bandsaw from scrap blue foam and coated with Durham's water putty painted white.
In the background is a bit of the Hairpin Curve from the SCPA&M, unchanged, since that was the thing that got me interested in Western 2 footers to begin with.
Now, just some scenery, details, and other stuff. BTW-the track is all laid and operates nicely. I bought all the code 83 rail at the LHS just to be sure I'd have enough to finish. I have maybe 5 sticks left!

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Oh wow like very much even un finished what i remember from the '80s when i lived in plano there wasn't much but highway out that way now there are all kinds of business along the highway. I was a charter member of the spring creek modular club

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LIDGERWOOD ! ... LIDGERWOOD ! ... LIDGERWOOD !



:moose::moose::moose::moose::moose:



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Nice work Woodie ! :thumb:

Can't quite believe you are kinda, at least in part, on your 3rd ! layout since I've known you. :shocked:

I figure the Lidgerwood has just got back from the new bridge building site. :)

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Woodie,

Really like that single-stall engine house.  I may have to steal, er borrow, you idea and build one for my own railroad.

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It's OK to steal/purloin any stuff I have shown. I am looking at structures that I built for the previous layouts to see if any could be re-used. Some of the mine buildings may work but the smelter buildings will become "fodder" for other stuff. Thank goodness I have boxes full of details which will be used and all my old autos, trucks, and horse/mule drawn wagons will find new homes here. I just have "so much" space to store structures, etc. that I won't be using so I need to make decisions about what is kept and what gets thrown...you know.
It seems that I have got almost all the "bugs" out of the trackwork and a bit more massaging with a small needle file will take care of any little problems. And I just looked at the rail stockpile, I only have 3 pieces not the 5 I thought I had. Ah, but the LHS called to tell me they had gotten in another bundle of code 83 weathered rail. Do you think they are trying to tempt me???

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EXTENSION ! ... EXTENSION ! ... EXTENSION !



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Si, it's a bit longer run than before. Remember "less is more", I have built the spaghetti bowl western before. I will post a track plan along with the garage dimensions...I need somewhere for a workbench, bandsaw, and tools. Also a small TV set, radio, digital fireplace, chairs, you know...stuff!
"Yield not to temptation!"

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Just caught up with this Woodie and it's coming along nicely. That window must throw a lot of light onto the layout, a great bonus, especially where it emphasises the mass of the trestle being lit to ground level.

Your historic affection for adobe type buildings is certainly coming out in the loco sheds and I wouldn't be surprised to see it elsewhere as well. Following with interest.

And Si, you really are a crane nut aren't you! :rah:

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" the LHS called to tell me they had gotten in another bundle of code 83 weathered rail "

" Do you think they are trying to tempt me "

" Yield not to temptation! "



Howdy Woodie :cb:



Yeah I know ... It's early days for an   EXTENSION ! ... EXTENSION ! ... EXTENSION !

I thought the local Code-83 pusher had got you hooked. :w:



Just wondering if the new double garage has a flat roof ??

That helix idea running up to one, which I saw in Model Insaneroader ...

... with the firemans-pole next to it, could work !! ;)



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" Si, you really are a crane nut aren't you! "



Hi Doug :wave:



I'm in therapy at the moment.

I've managed to stabilize the problem to ONLY four crane builds !



I was a bit disappointed not to see the BROWNHOIST ! on Woodies new layout. :f:

I guess he's saving it for Page-3 and the engine-house construction crew. :thumb:



Oh well, it's only the second Page ...

... and he did give us a glimpse of the LIDGERWOOD ! :bg: at least.

Can't complain really.



:P



Si.

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Woodrow. remember the olde model railroaders credo--

Buy when it's available, lest it be not there when you need it!


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Following the new build with great interest and admiration.  Really love the rustic appearance of the ties by the small engine house.  Superb!

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Bob, the ties are cut on my bandsaw. I was too lazy to fit a fine tooth blade but when I saw what the wood looked like after cutting some tie stock, I decided to keep on going. Sometimes a disaster becomes just right!
Herb, no, I ain't gonna buy 99 feet of rail. Maybe some more pieces but I will resist being tempted to "e x p a n d" the line.

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Woodie,

What's that two-prong doohickey on the top of Rosa #3?

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Woops...forgot to move Rosa's transmit crystal! If I don't stash them somewhere close to the locos, they tend to "walk away". Good eyes Michael, me bad.


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