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Is it me or is there something about posting messages. It seems like the sentence spacing jumps around and it's hard to place pictures and words. When clicking Preview the sentence structure changes scrambling the pictures and wording.
I've tried different browsers both in Windows 7 Professional and Windows 10 with the same results. Makes it frustrating posting anything on Freerails.
So, is it me or is it the forum software?
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So when I wrote the post I had spaces between the first and second sentence and also between the second sentence and my name. After posting I see there are no spaces between the sentences. I believe it has to be a software problem and not a computer problem at my end.


Bernd (pressed "Enter twice to see where the name ends up. Looks like four spaces.)

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Hi Bernd.



All is working just fine here.

Never heard of any 'picture scrambling', except from you.



If you are Posting using the 'Quick Reply' Window ...

... try hitting RETURN, TWICE, to get a space between lines.



It is likely a computer problem ...

... as the Freerails software, as usual, seems fine.



This tape will self destruct in 5 seconds . . .



:bg:



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Si. wrote: Hi Bernd.



All is working just fine here.

Never heard of any 'picture scrambling', except from you.



If you are Posting using the 'Quick Reply' Window ...

... try hitting RETURN, TWICE, to get a space between lines.



It is likely a computer problem ...

... as the Freerails software, as usual, seems fine.



This tape will self destruct in 5 seconds . . .



:bg:



Si.

Let's see what it looks like when I quote you.

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Something isn't working right. No matter what I do the software does weird stuff. This doesn't happen on the other sites I'm on.

Bernd

P.S. the quick reply seems to work OK.
P.S.S. Apparently "quote" doesn't work for me. 


Last edited on Sat Nov 4th, 2017 04:07 am by Bernd

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Hi Si  and all (1 x Enter)Bernd is not alone. It has been doing it to me using Chrome for months.

I have to use (2x Enter) to get a line separation. (3 by Enter)

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The only way I can add a link it to manually type in the code [ url] [ /url] (without the spaces). For photos I have to use the code [ img] [ /img]
This ought to look real funny when it appears as a message.

If you look at most of my recent messages you will see that they have been edited by me to get the line spacing right after being posted. 

I think there are still some lingering effects of the crash. 

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Strange.



I seem to be able to Post both words & photos just fine.

No huge bulks of text without breaks & paragraphing.

I can also use the Members Gallery absolutely fine without any problems either.

No problem adding Links & custom labeling them in Posts also.



Mysterious Moose Mountain



On my Mac, P.C. and Android phone, everything appears to be all systems go.



Which logically leads me to believe ...

... if everything works fine here on 3 totally different platforms ...

... what are you guys doing that is different ?



:)



Si.



Herb suffered a Members Gallery problem a couple of weeks back.

The immediate conclusion of most people would always seem to be ...

... Oh it can't be me, the Forum software doesn't work properly.



Herb reported back to me the other day ...

... that MAGICALLY after his browser did some further Auto-Updates ...

... BINGO ! he sees the Members Gallery again.



Doesn't look like that's anything to do with the Forum software whatsoever.



:mex:






A picture of a train from my Members Gallery.



:us:

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Si. wrote: Strange.I seem to be able to Post both words & photos just fine.No huge bulks of text without breaks & paragraphing.I can also use the Members Gallery absolutely fine without any problems either.No problem adding Links & custom labeling them in Posts also.Mysterious Moose MountainOn my Mac, P.C. and Android phone, everything appears to be all systems go.Which logically leads me to believe ...... if everything works fine here on 3 totally different platforms ...... what are you guys doing that is different ?:)Si.Herb suffered a Members Gallery problem a couple of weeks back.The immediate conclusion of most people would always seem to be ...... Oh it can't be me, the Forum software doesn't work properly.Herb reported back to me the other day ...... that MAGICALLY after his browser did some further Auto-Updates ...... BINGO ! he sees the Members Gallery again.Doesn't look like that's anything to do with the Forum software whatsoever.:mex:A picture of a train from my Members Gallery.:us:
 

Testing the "Quote" button.

 

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All I did in the previous post is click on the "QUOTE" button and entered "Testing the "Quote" button and my name. Both clicked "enter" twice each time. The results show an obvious problem with the forum software. Sorry to be a pain in the butt, but it's frustrating trying to post on this site.

Bernd

P.S. Posted with the "Quick Reply" box.

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" The results show an obvious problem with the forum software."


Hi Bernd :wave:



I'm sorry, but your conclusion that the Forum software is at fault, makes no sense.

You can't say there is 'an obvious problem' ...

... without knowing WHAT that alleged problem IS.



You Quoted in Post-4 ... and all the correct formatting was present.

You Quoted in Post-8 ... and clearly the correct formatting is not there.



Nothing has changed here at this end.

So what have YOU done differently, in the mean time ?

Or what has your BROWSER done differently, in the mean time ?

Possibly entirely randomly as well.



I can only guess at this, but it seems that under certain circumstances ...

... YOUR browser/computer is messing with how stuff is displayed.



I had some kind of weird problem a couple of years ago, with something browser/computer related.

I obviously have no idea whether this would work for you ...

... but after DELETING and then reinstalling my browser software ...

... the problem was GONE.



It seems that Herbs issue was to do with a similar situation ...

... after his browser had later auto-updated ( ie. reloaded ) his problem was mysteriously GONE.

Again NOTHING to do with the Freerails Forum software.



It seems to me that there is something 'random' affecting things for you.

I have to say, I have NEVER seen a 'Quote' come up before ...

... without a white-box around it.

On BOTH of your 'Quotes' there is NO white-box.

Strange.



Seems like it is another formatting problem, probably originating from your browser/computer ...

... since to my knowledge, I don't believe I've seen that elsewhere ever.



Are you running decent quality & up to date 'Anti-Virus Software' on your devices ?

It can be the case that such intentionally annoying things, such as low-level viruses & mallware etc. ...

... can and DO often simply mess with things, such as formatting & mouse operation etc.

They can latch onto & change somethings, like preferences & such stuff in browsers.

Such a virus or mallware etc. may not still be present & detectable either ...

... they can do their dirtywork & just vanish without a trace.



Just so as to avert any MASS PANIC before any other rumours get started.

IT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT POSSIBLE TO EVER GET A VIRUS OR MALLWARE FROM FREERAILS !!

But ...

... it is VERY possible to get such things from zillions of other online sources.



L:



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Si,

Nothing has changed on other forums using the same software on my computer. Have anit-virus running constantly and updates are on as they come from the vendor. The only thing that changed is the posting on this forum and not on the other four forums I'm on. That's why I suspect Freerails software. I'll see if there is anything on my end.

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Funny thing. When I use the "Quick Reply" way to post it seems to work OK.

Bernd

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" Nothing has changed on other forums using the same software on my computer."

" The only thing that changed is the posting on this forum and not on the other four forums I'm on."


Hi Bernd :wave:



I'm sure that what you say is true, regarding other websites you use.

The specific way in which other Sites operate ...

... may well not be affected by a specific browser fault.



Browsers regularly apply users preferences to single Sites only.

If the users preferences have been corrupted by eg. virus or mallware chaos ...

... it is easily possible they may only influence a single aspect, or certain aspects of operation only.



For example ...

... I'm guessing whilst Herb had the mystery problem with his Gallery ...

... He was probably still able to order his Wallace & Gromit DVDs on Amazon.



Likewise, the browser fault I had a few years back ...

... only affected one particular aspect of my web use.

Can't recall exactly what, but it was a baffling situation.



If there was a 'real' problem with the Freerails Forum software ...

... I would expect a flood of such observations.



However, with well over 1000 Posts last month, all of which I've read ...

... containing quotes, photos, labeled links & text etc. etc. ...

... I haven't seen anything that looks even remotely untoward ...

... essentially we have a 0.1% complaint rate.



In absolutely EVERY instance of difficulties using the Forum that have been previously investigated ...

... I'm not aware of a single instance which was to do with a Forum software problem.

Other than a few 'man made errors' 18 months ago ...

... there has simply NEVER been any actual evidence, that reported problems have ever been anything ...

... other than problems with users browsers, settings, operating systems or updates etc.



L:



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Hi Bernd :wave:



Just another thought.

Try emptying your 'browser-cache'.

It might do something, it might not.

Nothing to be lost doing it anyhow.

It just fills up again.



:!:



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Si, the big "G" still doesn't work for me to post photos from the gallery but I defeated that problem my own way. I just need 2 FR's on at the same time, copying the photo from the gallery on one and pasting on the post on the other. No particular problem, just the normal computer BS.

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" the big "G" still doesn't work for me to post photos from the gallery "

" No particular problem, just the normal computer BS."



Hi Guys :wave:



Just to be clear on this.

The 'G' Button is operating exactly as it should do.

What is NOT operating correctly, is Woodies 'Windows-10'.



Initially 'Windows-10' was working fine when using the 'G' Button.

But a 'Windows-10' update of 01/01/2017 has been a problem regarding this.

This specific problem with 'Windows-10' & how to fix it, has been clearly described here :-



'WINDOWS-10' USERS and THE FREERAILS MEMBERS GALLERY



:mex:



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Si. wrote: Hi Bernd :wave:



Just another thought.

Try emptying your 'browser-cache'.

It might do something, it might not.

Nothing to be lost doing it anyhow.

It just fills up again.



:!:



Si.



I run Microsoft Security Essentials once a week to check for viruses and CCleaner Professional to clean out the cache everyday. I'm 100% positive I don't have a virus or adware or spy software on my computer. I'm thinking there isn't something right with "quote post" or "reply"  module of the forum software. Everything else in the forum works OK for me, it just the reply and quote parts that don't seem to work for me.


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Bernd,

What browser are you using?  Websites are written using CSS or html code, which is interpreted differently by different web browsers.  For instance, I cannot get any space between paragraphs while posting on this forum using Microsoft Edge.  I just figured it out a few weeks ago, so I downloaded Firefox (used to use Chrome, but it's too annoying for my tastes) and everything that I use works fine.

The problem isn't with the website's programming, per se, but rather how that code is read by web browsers.  That's the only downside to the Internet, there is no standard.

--James

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Using "Enter" in Edge:
1)
2)
3)



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Using "Enter" in Firefox:

1)

2)

3)

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Go straight to the top of the class that man !

There are just no standards these days !! :old dude:



:brill: :brill: :brill: :brill: :brill:



I'm not sure if those 5 Einsteins are coming out properly spaced ?

Maybe I'm just properly spaced.

I can't tell for sure though.



I have a huge rusting pile of old historical computers in the garage.

A collection of 40 or so Operating-Systems, for about 1/2 a dozen different platforms.

I'm gonna run the Einstein spacing equation through all possible combinations.



I'll start a Thread on it in about 20 years, if they haven't nailed my lid on by then.

In the meantime ...

... I think I'll just Post some stuff about my toy trains.



I had a few minutes spare time today, not thinking about computer problems.

So as long as North Korea don't vaporize me in the next few hours ...

... I'll try and Post something.



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Hi everybody


I use Ubuntu (Linux) and Opera browser.
No problems here.

Wife's confuser was offered an "upgrade" to Windoze 10.
I declined in the harshest possible way, and put some garlic wreaths around it as an additional precaution.

Working fine with Windoze 7 and Opera.


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jtrain wrote: Bernd,

What browser are you using?  Websites are written using CSS or html code, which is interpreted differently by different web browsers.  For instance, I cannot get any space between paragraphs while posting on this forum using Microsoft Edge.  I just figured it out a few weeks ago, so I downloaded Firefox (used to use Chrome, but it's too annoying for my tastes) and everything that I use works fine.

The problem isn't with the website's programming, per se, but rather how that code is read by web browsers.  That's the only downside to the Internet, there is no standard.

--James








I'm using Windows 7 Professional with Explorer 11. I also have a Windows 10 on a portable running Edge that gives me the same results.
This problem for me started over a year ago.



 I'm sure I'm not the only one using what I mentioned above.





Bernd


P.S. Now isn't that strange. When I quote using the "Reply" when I post I don't see the quoted post. yet when I use the "Edit Source"
I get the different colored quote box.

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You're right Bernd, anyone using those two Microsoft products will have similar issues because they read html and CSS code differently than other browsers. That's the simplest was I can explain it. 

Freerails is an older site with a patchwork of old code, redundancies, and upgrades.  Somewhere in that mess of 1's and 0's there's a patch that's not working on Edge or Internet Explorer which is the cause of your problems.

The only thing I can recommend is that you download Firefox or Chrome and see if your posts work on that.  You can easily uninstall both browsers if they don't work for you. 
On the other hand, Microsoft Edge and Internet Explorer should not be uninstalled because Microsoft (in their infinite marketing wisdom) meshed those products in with the operating system.  If you delete either program your computer won't work right.  It's a great browser to use as a backup though, so it's not a terribly big deal.

I hope that this was of some use to you, computers are frustrating.

--James

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" Freerails is an older site with a patchwork of old code, redundancies, and upgrades "


First I've heard about it


If you really want a patchwork of old code and redundancies

Look no further than Windows

They probably have the world record


Some of it aint working either

They charge for it as well


:f:


Eddie


Firefox is the web browser of choice

Without all the corporate BS

Its free as well

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I tried Chrome. Same results.
That's OK. I'll limp along for now.


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No disrespect to the site is intended Eddie, that's just the way websites are.  I don't think about it too much, the forum works on my computer (provided I'm not on Edge or IE) and that's more than I could ask for.

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Okay, so I've looked at the code and have found.....

.....Nothing.  No errors whatsoever.  It seems that any errors that would occur have either been fixed, or are being suppressed with this handy little function found at the top of the code:

function suppress_errors()
{
return true;
}

This is literally the first function in the source code and it is meant to do exactly what it says, suppress any errors.  Additionally, I ran the code through a debugger and I searched for "error" which would display if a function wasn't working properly.  Again, I found nothing.  The code for this forum may not be perfect, but it works.

If you don't believe me, have a look.  Here's the html code for the reply page:

[url=view-source:view-source:http://freerails.com/reply.php?topic_id=7945]http://freerails.com/reply.php?topic_id=7945]view-source:http://freerails.com/reply.php?topic_id=7945[/url]

I don't know why your computer or browser isn't functioning properly Bernd, but I can assure you it isn't the code.

--James


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James,

Thanks for spending the time to look. This is more baffling than annoying. I run an ad blocker and use Microsoft Security Essentials for virus protection. I'm trying to remember if I added or had any major chances on my end.

Bernd

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Wait, ad blocker and anti-virus?  Yes, double check those items as they can be very intrusive to computer operations.

Also, see if you can figure out when the last time you've updated your browsers.  Every update adds new code for patches, fixes, and new features so it's quite possible that your particular version of Internet Explorer and Edge are causing your problems.  A simple update might fix the issues.

We will sort through this, but it could take a while to narrow down just what it is that's causing Freerails to not work properly on your computer.

--James


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