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Hi Reg  :wave:



Mmm ... Turntable ...  :f:

Looks like it's a lumber yard then !  :thumb:

Makes me wonder if having a go at making one is a good idea or not.  ???





Nice pair !

:cool: :cool: L  colours !!
The B&W with the depot aint bad either.  :old dude:



Lookin' good Reg  :)  ... & beating Alan as well, so he says.  ;)



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I pulled the trigger on the B.T.S. McCabe lumber mill today.  Not sure I can really afford it, but I have liked that kit ever since it first came out.

I got kind of worried it might live up to the "Limited Edition" billing and go out of production.

I ordered the mill and the log dump.  I don't have a big enough area for the complete complex.  Either on the layout or in the bank. 

It will definitely serve as motivation to get the west end into some form of completion, tear up the remaining On30 trackage, and get track laid around to the east end, as that is where the spur for the mill will come off. 

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 Posted: Thu Oct 11th, 2018 10:18 pm
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Hi Reg
 Pleased you are getting something together on the Henderson Branch lumber mill project. I quite like the BTS mill. It is large enough to require and process enough lumber to make railroad operations worthwhile and the structures have a nice feel about them. I can understand about not having the room for other parts of the series – and I guess few of us do. 
However I would remember the words of John H when I was discussing my mill with him. He said concentrate on the rail facilities on the wet (log handling ) and dry sides – i.e. just build the dump and the shipping shed and, if they go by rail, wood-chip loading. Having the sawmill lets people know what the plant is but you really don’t have to model stuff not on a rail spur. 
As I said I like the BTS kit but have only one reservation. The dump is good and better that I have seen elsewhere but the unloader looks like a grounded Barnhart loader so is not very Washington specific. I would have to change the siding or do some other modifications.
 I know TTSL or Timbertimes ran some articles on unloading engines and log dumps I I will have a look if you want. Also I found a couple of pictures in my files. I think both from John
 The first is the dump at Cathlamet on Crown Zellerbach  operation
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This is a Ivan Ergish photo of the overgrown Schafer dump with a Chapman style Unloader  probably made by Washington Iron and Steel
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Now I am a little worried.

I just came across a construction article on the Slaty Fork mill.  The guy took 10 years to build it!!

He was using it to gain his Master Model Railroader certification...but still.

Well, I have ordered the kit, so I am committed.

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Reg H wrote:
I just came across a construction article on the Slaty Fork mill.  The guy took 10 years to build it!!




Don't be so worried, Reg. I knew a guy who took 6 months to build an Atlas Switch Tower kit, something that normally can be build in a weekend if you take your time!




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Lee B wrote: Reg H wrote:
I just came across a construction article on the Slaty Fork mill.  The guy took 10 years to build it!!




Don't be so worried, Reg. I knew a guy who took 6 months to build an Atlas Switch Tower kit, something that normally can be build in a weekend if you take your time!



That's encouraging.  The most difficult Walthers kit I have built (bar the #$&%^&*&^ turntable) took me a Sunday afternoon.

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I have been in the basement measuring and figuring and scratching my head.

There just isn't a way to include any kind of logging line.  

One thought was the logging operation could have trackage rights over the common carrier.   But I don't think that ever happened in the real world.  The need for the logger to conform to common carrier standards would squelch that.  

So, the logging railroad "operation" will probably be an engine facility diorama to include the log dump.  

We will see how things fit once I have the mill building built.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 16th, 2018 10:13 pm
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Hi Reg
There were quite a few examples of loggers having rights over class-1 railraods . As I am in Edinburgh again I have not got my files with me but those I can think of off hand include
Long Bell /International Paper from Vader to Longview over the NP/UP Shelvin Hixon over the SP to Bend OregonPacific Lumber over the SP(NWP) to Scotia CAWeyerhaeuser ( Chehalis Western) to South Bend
I am sure there were others but I can't remember these at presentAlso there are quite a few examples of loggers turning over trains to a class one who would haul logs to the mill and there either switch the mill or hand over to the mill's switcher. The MacMillian Bloedel operation into Chemainus on Vancouver Island is an example.
Also I can't see the Slaty Fork mill is going to take a huge amount of time. Maybe if you were going for full interior details and the whole mill set  it might take a year but you are not doing that I think.
Anyway good luck with it.
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Alan:

Thanks for the info.  I sure miss John.   

Of course, that complicates my life.

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