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 Posted: Wed Mar 14th, 2018 03:57 am
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Reg H wrote:
The combination of the Simpson line and the PS&P would make a great layout.  I contemplated it, but I don't really have the space.
You and me, both, Reg! If I wasn't modeling the ET&WNC during WW2, I might be modeling the PS&P with the Milwaukee Road never having bene abandoned and instead bought out by another carrier, running across it at Rochester like back in the day!


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The museum is plugging along.  They got possession of the turntable and were able to move it out to Mill 5.  They hope to build a pit for it.

I see their big hurdle as being money.   I think they started with the idea that the City of Shelton would throw in some money.   Given the city finances, the current commissioners, and the high risk nature of the venture, that is not going to happen. 

I wasn't familiar with how it was going right now. I've talked with Joel Hawthorne several times, who documented the final days at Simpson but it's been a little wile. He's one of the founding members of the museum (and one of the most soft-spoken train buffs I've ever met). They have one of the Simpson locomotives, too, as well as three passenger cars of various vintage, currently being stored right at the site of the old Milwaukee depot in Chehalis. I have no idea where they came from, but they're there right now.
I wish them all the luck in the world, as I sadly think they're going to need it.
I still kick myself that I never went out to chase this, nor the Waerhauser line out of Longview...




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 Posted: Wed Mar 14th, 2018 04:12 am
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Lee:

Did you know the NP depot in Hoquiam still stands?  It looks nice too.

I gotta get over there and get a photo.

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Reg H wrote:
Did you know the NP depot in Hoquiam still stands?  It looks nice too.

Yes, I was over there about a month ago (was looking for the steam locomotive being restored nearby but their building was closed):

http://www.graysharbortalk.com/2015/02/15/historic-polson-logging-locomotive-return-harbor/

The old depot houses the licensing office in town now.
If the Shelton operation ever gets to running trains, I wonder if anyone's thought to make a grab for that shay on display downtown to get it running?




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 Posted: Wed Mar 14th, 2018 08:51 pm
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Lee:

You must be referring to the little prairie type that the Polson Museum is working on.  

It would be nice to see "Tollie" under steam and pulling folks around.  That would be a super major project.  Pete Replinger personally cut large holes in the bottom of the boiler. 

I have not talked to Joel Hawthorne.  I am kind of avoiding being too vocal about my interest.  I have way too much on my plate to get involved in this project and I could very easily get sucked in. 

I am also up to my neck in Shelton politics at the moment, which are very ugly.   Though I support what the museum is trying to do, I am, quite vocally, opposed to the City contributing any monetary support.  The museum is just one of the political footballs being kicked around town. So I am probably persona non grata among the active museum supporters. 

My friend, John Henderson, had an intense interest in the Simpson operation.  Indeed, some of my first railfan excursions with John, in the 1970's, involved trips to Shelton.  Had I known then that someday I would live in Shelton, I could have turned, while standing near the intersection of 12th and Railroad, and looked at the house in which I would eventually live.  But at that time I was living in the Ballard area of Seattle (as was John) and working at Seattle Pacific University.

I was executor for John's will.  Right now my memory is failing me.  John's photos and research (extensive) went to either Oso Publishing or John Taubeneck.  I will email John T. and see if all that went to him.  But I think he is in touch with Pete Replinger, so anything he (John T.) has would be known to the museum.  

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I can offer the attached, taken on Railroad Avenue, in I think 1989.





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Reg H wrote: It would be nice to see "Tollie" under steam and pulling folks around.  That would be a super major project.  Pete Replinger personally cut large holes in the bottom of the boiler. 

I have not talked to Joel Hawthorne.  I am kind of avoiding being too vocal about my interest.  I have way too much on my plate to get involved in this project and I could very easily get sucked in. 

I am also up to my neck in Shelton politics at the moment, which are very ugly.   Though I support what the museum is trying to do, I am, quite vocally, opposed to the City contributing any monetary support.  The museum is just one of the political footballs being kicked around town. So I am probably persona non grata among the active museum supporters.

I applaud you sticking to your convictions when it's something that'd be 'cool' to you. Most people, as you know, always want budget cuts for things they DON'T find interesting or get benefits from, but you dare not cut anything from what they want!
Joel's a good guy, the most laid-back train fan I've ever met. Some folks swear they've never actually heard him say anything.

It was surprising to go through their website and see how much progress they've had. I wasn't aware they had almost all the remaining rolling stock (other than the log cars) from the Simpson operation after the other locomotives were sold to WWR (or whatever it's called now) down at Chehalis. Also, it was a shock to know they have about 10 miles of useable track. I just hope they're able to get those passenger cars (a baggage car, and observation car and some manner of heavily-modified diner car) from Chehalis onto the tracks at Shelton. I know the roundhouse in Shelton is coming down, so I guess a large shed/depot will be next on the agenda.




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 Posted: Sun Mar 18th, 2018 06:04 pm
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Alan, a few more  Simpson Timber films to enjoy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMr9nYOfLEA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZblPOztFtSI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWhIpR3bswk&t=1043s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IRJ06xudko&t=546s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dke-NTNkDGo&t=196s


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 Posted: Thu Mar 22nd, 2018 07:29 pm
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Thanks Peter.

There are quiet a few recent ( i.e from 2010) videos of Simpson on YouTube, but not much before then which is a pity.
Guess those who took them don't want to post on YouTube.
Can't blame them as I have some video from 1989 on DVD ( RegH has a copy) but decided not to go on YouTube.
I know there were some films made in the 1950's/60's but have not seen these anywhere.

Anyway it is good, if a little sad, to see what was at Shelton just a few years ago.





For interest, attached is a photo I took in August 1989 of the woods train heading out to the dump in Oakland Bay.

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Hi Alan  :wave:


Hope it's going well in the Herts. of logging country, North of London.  ;)

I liked your photos ^^ above ...

... & was looking through my logging photos, when I found this one I thought you might be interested in.





Camp cars under construction ... No idea where or when.  L:



:)



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 Posted: Mon May 28th, 2018 01:24 pm
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Hi Si.

Thanks for the e-mail.

Not much happening with modelling.
But I have had a custom up-grade to a Walthers SW1200 with new paint job and sound which I am very happy with.

However both my shortline FM 10-44 have strangely failed.
So am having to get them looked at and the shortline is having to “hire” a SW9 from the lumber company.
Think this also happened in reality on the Weyerhaeuser Columbia and Cowlitz in the late 1960’s.

I plan to get some scenery done in the next few weeks 
 
The photo is interesting as you do not often see camp cars being constructed.
I cannot be sure where it is but I think it might be Rayonier.
The completed car looks like some in photos I have seen of the operation,
and also the cars I saw at the Camp Six Museum in Tacoma and now moved Mineral.
Also the shop building looks like some at Railroad Camp photos.
Would think the the photo dates from the 1920's

Look forward to hearing from you

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