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 Posted: Fri Dec 15th, 2017 07:32 am
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I'm fairly new to the model train hobby so maybe I'm missing something ...
As I thought I understood things 0n30 is narrow gauge "O" scale (1:48 ish)So, I assumed that and "O" scale figure(s) should be correct in scale for On30.
But after buying a couple of figures (eBay) I found they are easily 1/8 inch taller than the cab of my Bachmann Porter.
Am I missing something or are the figures or engines that far out of scale between O and On30?
P.S. any suggestions for a good quality Engineer for a Porter and for other general 0n30 correct size figures would be appreciated.
Thanks - George W (not Bush)



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 Posted: Fri Dec 15th, 2017 08:50 am
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Howdy George, O scale is 1:48 proportion and anything (figures, trains, structures, details) that are "1:48" scale are correct(the English also have 1:43 and 1:45 scales which are considered O scale there).Scale is scale, gauge is only the distance between the rails. Porters were/are "skull crackers" in real life so this may not be a problem. You might look for figures that are slouching down or sitting or also, GRANDT LINE makes a 1:48 scale Porter engineer for their now unavailable line of Porters. These would be fine in the cab of your Porter or any other O scale loco. With all that said, companies like PREISER offers some very fine figures but even they have a "rubber scale" sometimes. An example, years back I bought a pack of unpainted "1:32" scale figures for my layout. I model in 1:35 scale but there really isn't much visual difference between these scales, BUT two of the nice Preisers measured around 7 feel or so tall-and that was in 1:32. I suppose they would represent NBA basketball players but they didn't work for me. I ended up cutting their legs and arms down and "fixed" them.
Remember that humans come in all scales anyway...I am more or less 1:48, I have a friend who is maybe 1:50, a couple of guys who are 1:43 or 1:45, and I have seen fellows who appear to be 1:64 or so! Confusing? You bet!
So, there isn't a "correct" On30 figure. On30 is just the gauge between the rails.
Try to find the Grandt engineer, I KNOW it will fit your cab.
Good luck...

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Scale is scale, gauge is only the distance between the rails. Porters were/are "skull crackers" in real life so this may not be a problem. 
You might look for figures that are slouching down or sitting or also, GRANDT LINE makes a 1:48 scale Porter engineer for their now unavailable line of Porters. These would be fine in the cab of your Porter or any other O scale loco. With all that said, companies like PREISER offers some very fine figures.

Yes, I'm aware that the "gauge" is the distance between rail, I've managed to learn that much lol
Thanks for the tip on the Grandt Line stuff, I'll see if I can find that engineer.Not surprised Porters are skull crackers, it looks like a pretty tight space.
Preiser does seem to have some nice figures too.
Thanks again.

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Arttista makes a nice line of O scale figures:  http://arttista.com/

You can find 1:50 scale figures on eBay for not much money.

On my 1:35 scale layout I use military figures that I modify and paint.  I have also used a few of the 'Homies' figures that are sorta close to my scale.  I rummage through figures, and a lot of other stuff, at dealers of used equipment at train shows.  I know that the tip of my index finger to the knuckle is about two inches or six scale feet, and use that as a guide to decide what might work.

People come in all kinds of sizes.



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Michael M wrote: Arttista makes a nice line of O scale figures:  http://arttista.com/

You can find 1:50 scale figures on eBay for not much money.

On my 1:35 scale layout I use military figures that I modify and paint.  I have also used a few of the 'Homies' figures that are sorta close to my scale.  I rummage through figures, and a lot of other stuff, at dealers of used equipment at train shows.  I know that the tip of my index finger to the knuckle is about two inches or six scale feet, and use that as a guide to decide what might work.

People come in all kinds of sizes.

Thanks for the tips.
I'd love to scrounge around at a Train Show, but being in San Francisco shows a pretty rare and the few that appear are still pretty far from me.  Heck, I have to drive an hour just to get close to a decent Train Shop.
Anyway, I'll have to measure the cab and be sure to have a ruler the next time I go to the shops.
P.S. I but the Lowrider Homies are a riot on the trains before repainting. Lol



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 Posted: Fri Dec 15th, 2017 02:04 pm
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I've got Bachmann's pre-DCC 0-4-2 Porter and measuring the cab side it is right at 6ft 3in high.

And yes, the Porter light locomotives are little things, see 2 here;
http://journeyleaf.typepad.com/journeyleaf/2011/09/ardenwood-farm-historic-railroad-fair.html
and 1 here
http://on30center.com/on30/library/articles/emrr/eureka.html

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George, for my Porters I've used Dixon Miniatures Old West loco crew.    http://www.dixon-minis.com/shop/old-west-25mm/WWA10/

l (3) by slateworks, on Flickr

l (2) by slateworks, on Flickr

They're large 28mm figures so a little on the small side but they do fit on the footplate!

 



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Hi George, yes O Scale doesn't mean 1:48.  The figures marketed as O scale vary tremendously, as stated, between 1:50 to 1:43.  Even then, those listed in the various scales don't seem to stay in scale.  I tend to use the "larger" folks to make my equipment look smaller.  But that said, I'll order folks from manufacturers that have "larger" people and I'll get some that are smaller...:us:


So, I have decided to use the smaller in the background, in buildings, and in equipment and the larger ones in the foreground.  I think it helps with forced perspective and inside the equipment and buildings they really are not distinguishable between large and small.

Arttista seems to be more inclined to be similar heights than others.  Woodland Scenics too.I have used Echo Mountain guys too.  They offer some great looking train crew members. http://www.echomtn.com/14CAT.htm  I am posting that link at the risk of being accused of marketing.  I am not affiliated, nor do I even know them, they are just cool looking dudes.:w:



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One thing I noticed on my Bachmann ten-wheelers is that no figures would fit in the cabs. I've seen a real one of those in person (former ET&WNC # 12) and the cab is insanely tight. But not so tight that a real person wouldn't fit in there.
I used Woodland Scenics and Artistta figures and I had to cut each one into a 'V' shape at the waist to wedge them into the cabs. You cannot tell that by lookin at them that I can tell (and I've pointed it out to people in my op sessions, and they've looked, agreeing that you just can't tell I did that).
In this lineup, the Artistta ones are in # 11's cab, and Woodland Scenics in the other two.



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Kitbash0n30 wrote: I've got Bachmann's pre-DCC 0-4-2 Porter and measuring the cab side it is right at 6ft 3in high.

And yes, the Porter light locomotives are little things, see 2 here;
http://journeyleaf.typepad.com/journeyleaf/2011/09/ardenwood-farm-historic-railroad-fair.html
and 1 here
http://on30center.com/on30/library/articles/emrr/eureka.html
I've got both DCC and The earlier none DCC 0-4-2 Porters.  If the cab measures at 6' 3" the figure I got must be 6' 5" or more as the roof hits him at the eye line. 😂
Thanks for the links to the photos, those are great 👍  



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