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Unique Windmill - In O-Scale ?
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 Posted: Sat Feb 17th, 2018 09:13 am
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Jerry Kemp
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Please reference attached windmill image.

I'm coming back to model railroading, and scratch building after a couple decade absence.  Before I just jump into this, I'm looking for any comments or suggestions regarding the windmill in the attached picture.

At least for me, It is a unique looking windmill that powered a grist mill in my (small/middle of no-where) hometown.  Existing documentation states that the mill (and windmill that powered it) was built in the 1870's, then was partially destroyed, then burnt via a very strong hail and wind storm in January of 1909, followed by a fire which finished everything off in the autumn of 1909.

I didn't include the main structure in the image, as it is just a basic/generic looking rectangular building.  Unfortunately, this was the only image I have of it.  The documentation that I have suggest that the windmill was 22' in diameter, or 11' radius.

I'm aware that Bachmann sells/sold a pretty basic low end wind mill, and if the windmill I was attempting to reproduce was not so unique looking, I probably would have used that as a kitbashing starting point.

Before I just jump into this, I though I would put out some feelers to see if anyone had any pointers, or possibly existing kits that might help in some type of kit bashing build.  Scale wise, I am O-scale, mostly On30.

Please reference attached windmill image.

TIA for any helpful comments.

Jerry

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 Posted: Sat Feb 17th, 2018 10:21 am
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Jerry, I haven't seen any windmills like that one in O scale or any other scale for that matter. However, it looks to be a great project to undertake. The old photo is pretty hard to see details but the basic design is visible. Probably the only thing that might be some work is the blade structures which look like lots and lots of small possibly 1 by 4's or similar. The blade support and pivot looks similar to a bicycle wheel or maybe an old WW1 aircraft wheel. With that in mind, you might look at available spoke wheels for scale model aircraft(r/c). Such things are available, a search online should turn something up.
Good luck, an interesting project that would get you going again. Please give updates.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 17th, 2018 10:30 am
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Hello Woodie,

Thank you for your reply.  Yes, I certainly agree that the picture is of very poor quality.

I did not want to include additional images in my initial post, but I did search for wind mill images on duckduckgo.com , and I do believe that I found some images of wind mills that are of a similar construction type.

I'm not a rivet counter, and certainly I will probably take some artistic "fudging" in the creation of my, generally basic, mill.

I am, however, going to hold off on getting started on this project till I can get a good feel for recreating the wind mill, or at least something close.  As poor as the single image I have for the building is, the article that goes with it provides many of the general dimensions of relevant items.  At least enough that I feel generally confident to run with this when I am ready.

Jerry

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I found something that might be like what you posted. See:

http://williadg.blogspot.com/2009/08/some-more-texaswindmills-bullfight.html

and you are looking for the "Nichols Centennial Double-section"




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John Durbetaki wrote: I found something that might be like what you posted. See:

http://williadg.blogspot.com/2009/08/some-more-texaswindmills-bullfight.html

and you are looking for the "Nichols Centennial Double-section"



Hello John,

Thanks for the find.  Much clear & sharper than anything my searches turned up.

from a certain perspective, it almost looks like picket fence rows.  :)

Jerry

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Found some more:

https://windmill.com/ scroll to the bottom, looks like that windmill in the background of the wedding setup, not a great photo

and then I found this:

https://www.facebook.com/americanwindmillmuseum/photos/pb.170608739743225.-2207520000.1518884377./1163190390485050/?type=3

ant this which is the single version:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g56208-d270366-Reviews-American_Wind_Power_Center-Lubbock_Texas.html

and if you look through the slide show you will find another view here:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g56208-d270366-Reviews-American_Wind_Power_Center-Lubbock_Texas.html#photos;geo=56208&detail=270366&ff=273047978&albumViewMode=hero&aggregationId=101&albumid=101&baseMediaId=273047978&thumbnailMinWidth=50&cnt=30&offset=-1&filter=7&autoplay=


then then this ( you can click on the picture to see it bigger):

https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/american-windmill-museum-lubbock?select=mxej_HvksM0otxD4XrwpCg



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Yes, kind of like a picket fence, but a trapezoid instead of a rectangle. The vanes have a fixed angle to each other on the panel (probably not getting the terminology right) and then the panel tilts to moderate the speed.

Definitely want to see what you come up with!



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Thank you everyone for your replies.

At least in my opinion, this is really a unique windmill shape, and I had never seen one of these till I started to explore this project.

Have any of you in 'freerails land' come across one of these previously, prior to me posting this question?

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This will have to be made of brass and soldered. I don't think anything else will survive even the construction phase.
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