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 Posted: Tue May 15th, 2018 11:43 pm
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Dominick Soldano
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Hello,

I’m a new member and new to On30.

After about 15 years away from model railroading I am getting back into the hobby.
Over the years I’ve partially built a number of HO layouts but never really completed one due to one reason or another;
inter-state moves, not having a decent amount of space for a model railroad, etc. have all contributed.
However, I have remained an avid modeler and am quite good at any type of plastic model and not too bad with wooden kits.

Three weeks ago I attended a train show in Colorado Springs and it rekindled my excitement with model railroading,
and particularly with O-Scale narrow gauge logging and mining (On30 because of its availability at a decent price),
even though I have tons of un-built and built & weathered HO locomotives, rolling stock, buildings, accessories, etc.
That said, I have ordered four On30 Bachmann locomotives (2 x 4-4-0, 1 x Heisler, 1x Porter) at a great sale price
(luckily my HO DCC and sound decoders will work)
and started on some bench work for an On30 logging branch line.

I’ve decided to make the bench work free-standing and sectional so that if we move again in a few years, I can take it with me.
I am currently almost finished building two 2-foot by 8-foot sections that will be placed as an L in a corner of our finished basement.
I am also making the fronts from oak to look like a piece of furniture so it can be placed anywhere (if needed).
If things go well, I can easily expand along the basement wall (in the current house)
with two additional 2x8 foot sections for a total of a 2-foot by 32-foot run with a possible loop back on one or both ends.
I am using 2" thick blue foam for the sub-roadbed and this being a branch-line, plan to mount track directly to the foam with silicon caulk.

I would love to have a port/industrial area similar to what Tim Warris did with his HO Port Kelsey RR in 2x10 feet,
with a small turntable and engine facility at one end and then have the line climb into the woods to the logging area,
with towering pines and a trestle/bridge or two - and perhaps another turntable.

Since this is my first foray into On30,
I am hoping to get some help with understanding what will fit on a 10x8 foot L-shaped layout (24 inches wide),
and provide a mix of scenery (flats or low relief structures on the backdrop are fine) and switching.

Thanks

Dominick


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 Posted: Wed May 16th, 2018 04:53 pm
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" what will fit "


Hi Dominick  :wave:



It sounds like you have done well with your new baseboards.

I think having the 'actual' baseboards in front of you, will answer a lot of 'fit' questions for you.



With your locos & even just cardboard-cutouts of freight cars etc. track capacities can be seen & checked easily.

Likewise cardboard 'footprints' & 'flats' of buildings, are quick & easy to experiment with.



I think getting a 'real' idea of your new larger scale is important for things to look right.

However, HO trains are really similar in length of locos & cars, to On30 generally.

So you may well already have a good 'eye' for how the sizes of trains, switches & buildings might work out.

Some will say O-scale buildings are a lot bigger than HO, but NOT if you choose a smaller prototype.



It seems like you have 2 'themes' & 2 boards at present, so I guess the direction could be clear.



I saw a rather nice track plan by one of our Members on Google-Images the other day.

I was hoping to speak to Robert about it some time soon, as it did grab my attention.

Sizes are very similar to the board dimensions you & many other people choose.







I think from what I know about On30 loco, car & building sizes, Robert has kinda hit the nail on the head with this plan.

Robert has drawn numerous track plans, in several different scales & they all have a good mix of operations and scenery potential.

Perhaps he'll pop by & say a bit about this ^^ one.

I think it could work in my scale of 1:35n2 as well On30 or even HO with allowances for building sizes.



I figure since you have your boards in front of you ...

... C.A.D. ( Cardboard Aided Design )  ;)  is your friend !

It's also very cheap & fine to make 'mistakes' with & easy to correct when you do.



Printouts or photocopies of Manufacturers 'switches & track' are handy to lay down for a look-see as well.

There has been a lot of debate on the Forum, between 'Micro Engineering' & 'PECO' On30 track.



Let us know what you think.

Discussing ideas & construction of a new project, can give it a good solid foundation early on.



:moose:



Si.



There is another one of Roberts excellent narrow gauge track plans on Freerails ... HERE :-


'The Gilpin Tramway' - In On2 - By Robert Chant


It's drawn for On2, but would work fine I'm sure for On30 or On3 as well.


Obviously a MUCH BIGGER layout than the one ^^ above ...

... but taking single sections of it, shows a good indication of what will fit into the available space.

The layout is quite 'expansive' which is nice, but shortening the run-arounds & spurs a bit could be good for a 'compact' track plan.



A nicely drawn idea showing track & building sizes well.



:moose:




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 Posted: Wed May 16th, 2018 10:52 pm
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A few decades ago I got a set of track templates (CAD also) from a NMRA Bulletin. Worked fine. Still have them.... SOMEWHERE!
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Hi Dominick  :wave:



An On30 layout built by Lee, here on Freerails, has had an interesting 'evolution' of its track plan.  :!:

I'm not sure of the overall sizes of Lees layout room, but his main baseboard sizes are 'similar' to yours. 



Lees On30 layout can be seen on Freerails here :-

East Tennessee & Western North Carolina R.R. Stoney Creek Branch - pt.I

& also here :-

East Tennessee & Western North Carolina R.R. Stoney Creek Branch - pt.II



Lee had an initial track plan which was looking pretty good ...

... but before actually starting to build the layout ...

... he realized, for various reasons, that a slightly thinned-out version of the initial track plan would work better.

The 'less is more' principle in operation !  :)



His layout both operates well & has enough room for scenery.  :thumb:



:cool:



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Lees initial track plan :-







Lees room size can be seen here, from the track plans 'foot squares'.



L:



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Lees revised track plan :-







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Lees final track plan :-







:thumb:



I like Lees track plan & most importantly ... so do his layouts operators !  :cool:

There is plenty of room for scenery, in either 3-dimensions or as low-relief flats.

Plus he has achieved this in a 'sensible' amount of room space.

He also made his bases, freestanding and/or sectional/removable, just in case it needs to be moved.



:Salute:



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Si,

Thanks.
I will take a look this afternoon.
I plan to finish the backdrop framing and mount it to the bench work.
Next weekend I’ll put cardboard on the tops, make some templates, and start sketching.

Dominick


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Just to emphasize what Si said.  
Even though the track is the same gauge as HO, and the equipment is equivalent in size to larger HO rolling stock, On30 is still 1/4" scale.
You need more track spacing in On30.  And 24" radius curves are pretty tight.  Buildings are larger.  
My first On30 layout did not take into account the larger buildings.  So I didn't even have room for models of small prototypes.  
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