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 Posted: Thu Jun 21st, 2018 11:51 am
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Michael - Wow, thanks.

I still get amazed at the amount of information on the Internet.

"The 153,703,000 crossties purchased by U.S. railroads in 1907 amounted to 7.5% of this country’s output of forest products for the year.
Of all these ties, barely 1 in 8 was chemically treated to resist decay.
The remaining ties were expected to be removed and discarded within a decade."
This quote is from page 20.

Since I'm modeling 1920 (maybe) it's probably safe to say there would be no preservative on the ties.
They would have been set down probably ten years prior to that so maybe still in good condition but showing some age.
I'll go with that.

Thanks again for finding this.

- Tom


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Tom,

I found a video of the Dolly Varden Mine train:  https://archive.org/details/dollyVardenMine

Not the best quality film, but if you look at the ties and bridge timbers they don't appear to be treated with any creosote.



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Michael - what a cool video! 

To be able to go into a long abandoned mining area with everything just sitting there.
About 20 years ago I used to explore mining sites in Nevada with my brother-in-law. 
He told that when he was much younger he used to go to Bodie before it was made a park/historical site. 
Same kind of thing. 
I would love to experience that. 
This cool-man video really takes you along on an adventure. 

Thanks.

- Tom


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Tom,

Been to Bodie many times. 
Always neat to walk those streets of a town that was built back in the 1870s. 
Even though it has become a tourist trap Virginia City is still a fun place to visit. 





This is a photo of one of the mines near Skidoo in Death Valley. 
Even though it's over 100 years old much is pretty well preserved. 
Nice aging on the wood. 
Notice the sparse vegetation at 5,700 foot elevation. 
Hot during the summer, and snow in the winter.




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Some prototype hand laid track from El Salvadore and Peru, photos taken in 2000 & 2001, working 3 foot gauge trackage.

Ties vary from cast, narrow, standard and what ever works  :Crazy: .

Definitely not a tourist railway. 







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Ken -

Looks like the bean counters are running that operation. 
Hard to believe that kind of operation still exists today.
 
My short line is looking at the long term expense and plans to replace the non-creosote ties just as soon as they rot away.

- Tom


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The FCH&H trackage
in Peru was rebuilt to standard gauge in 2008, after 80-90 years as a 3 foot line.
Strangely enough it started as a standard gauge line, but somebody in government decided it should be rebuilt to 3 foot gauge.

The FCC&SA (Machu Picchu line) started as a 2 foot 6 inch gauge line and need to be widened to 3 foot gauge.
Not likely that it might be standard gauged as it requires 6 switchbacks and a couple of horseshoe curves,
to climb out of Cusco from the interchange yard with Perurail to finally leaving Cusco.




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Ken - interesting stuff. 

I used to work with a guy from Peru who was always telling stories of home. 
That convinced me that I need to visit Peru some day. 
Well now I know fer sure...gotta go! 
Thanks for sharing.

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In speaking of ties, a number of western ng railways were built with redwood ties, naturally treated.  



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Steven B -

Those redwood ties must have turned black instead of gray with all the tannin. 
Can't even imagine using redwood for ties today. 
Back in the 1980's I built a redwood patio cover right before the spotted owl thing shut down all the mills. 
After that the price skyrocketed.

Finally got around to laying some track. 
Ties are stained grayish brown with some raised grain added. 
Rail is rust on sides and polished on top.

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