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 Posted: Wed Jul 11th, 2018 01:18 pm
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Hi Daniel,
Your trunks need to be a little more "red" for western trees, but again you're modeling takes place in France.  But for those who are modeling lumbering in the Far West (U.S.A.) these are great models!!!  :apl:

Ponderosa Pine also would work as a Jeffrey Pine as they are kissing' cousins.  But you need a "vanilla" stink-um for when the wind blows.  The Jeffreys, loving the Eastern Sierra Nevada, have a scent that when the wind blows, reminds you of your old grandmother baking cookies.  It is heavenly!  Notice on the Ponderosa the branches dip down.



Leaves (needles)



Wester Red Cedar



Leaves - you nailed it!



And just for fun Oregon Pine (as known in the mid-late 1800s), now known as Douglas Fir.  Branches go up and the needles are very short.



Doug Fir Needles



Excellent modeling, without looking at a prototype, you nailed it.  Now you loggers, get your axes sharpened!!  I am still trying to work up a Two Needle Pinon Pine.
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 Posted: Wed Jul 11th, 2018 01:51 pm
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Steven

Thank you a lot for the photos & explanations and thank you also for your kind words.

My 'pine'is not mean to be on my 'French' isalnd nor any other place that I build. As said before, it was just a desire to play a bit and see what could I reach in my intent.

A more serious modeler's approach would face and dig in questions as the location of the branches: are they radially distributed? Helically? Following any gepometrical ryhtm? None? Etc.

Also de kinds of barks for evry type... But such a goal oriented approach would probably never get roots at 'Ile du Présent' where thinking & planing are not often enjoyed.
What I do is to feed Mrs. Curiosity endless appetite and let her decide what and when she whispers into the muses' ears... :old dude:

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(But the Red Cedar is killing me again and again...!!!)

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Nice variations Daniel.



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Thank you, Doug.

Such type of trees are not in my plans but was n ice to play a bit with them.
Now I must get back to my own island and get there things done.
May be when the island start it's growing process I will see if I manage to make some convincing Mediterrean Pines.
They arew quiet different and requiere a lot of work at their bark most of which is clearly visible. And I think they will like the company of some Palm trees.
But we knoiw the future doesn't exists so may be instead I will enjoying a big icecream at a real Spanish island or some other Daniel Friendly place of this madhou... planet.
For the time being I have before my nose the perspective of unexpected and serious surgery but I will know more about in a week or two. :w:


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As for the trees, I knew a quite arrogant modeler who thought everything he did was the best anyone could do. He once challenged a group to come up with a type of scenery he couldn't model. He was up for the challenge, and while the results were okay (if not better than average), it wasn't as good as how he made it out to be.

I stymied him when I gave an example I doubt anyone can model accurately-


Southeast scrub pine forest (around south Georgia and North Florida).


I'm convinced that nobody can model this accurately. There's a reason nobody models north Florida, and this is the primary reason.

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Lee

Thank you for that nice photo.

I am not sure what I do can be called 'modeling'.
Actually I don't even know good what I am doing until it is done and I see the photos.
I wouldn't even try to model something as it is, doesn't matter what.
Of course I did before, but every time, half way, that 'something' I now call 'the muses' started pushing me to follow a flow where scale drawings and such thing are just cheap jokes.
Of course that doesn't mean that others should do as I do. I don't know what I am doing, how could I know what others should?

L: ... Anyway your very beautiful photos is whispering in my ear that two first surface mirrors joining at 90 degree- would
help to...
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A wooden rectangular case as for a small layout with an open front. Three 'first surface mirrors' (also called 'front plated mirrors') laid along three sides of the box letting, of course, the front open. That would provide an endless space where two dozen of treess would do the trick.

For the tall grasss I have bought recently the marvelous 35Kw "Greenkeper" which makes miracles with 12mm static grass.Specially if one applies several layers.

The main problem at modelling such a scene would be the sky, but we don't think in terms of 'problems' at "Ile du Présent" where no one really models but just en-joy whatever life brings up. :us:


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Yes, I have known a couple of those "best ever" modelers...funny thing is that although I asked to see their work, they were way too busy to show anything. Could it be that they couldn't "put their money where their mouth was"?

Have fun and run a train...today.
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Well, Woodie, I can still recall myself walking around through my neighborhood wearing a cowboy hat, two toy revolvers and a selfmade 'Winchester' convinced my neighbors would realize I was a very dangerous hero.
I mean: we grow up when we can. 
For some of us it may take a little longer than for others ...................................:slow:


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Lee:
Reflecting on my comments on reproducing your woods scene I realized this morning that my idea of the three mirrors wouldn't work so simple: the mirror at the back of the scene would reflect the viewer too...:bang: ...

:Crazy: ... :Crazy: ... :Crazy: ...


:old dude:That could be solved if one makes some convenient obstacle at the foreground -a wall or whatever- so the viewer can not look from a spot where he could see his own reflection but is forced to look from a higer point of view where he can see reflected only the area up to the front edge of the scene.


( Mr. Wallet should realize I deserbve to get a set of those first surface mirrors to play with...!!!  :sad:

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