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 Posted: Thu Sep 27th, 2018 10:30 am
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Kyle Moore
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Hello there, 

I am looking into the plan for my On30 stuff and got a plan drawn up. 
It is that Worlds Greatest Hobby track plan but with a bit more than a siding. 
I am planning on using EZ-Track due to ease of use, 
and also the fact that 2.5 gauge was not really extensively used in the USA, so tie spacing could be ignored per se. 
Also Bachmann track has some issues that I read about and that I can easily fix.


I feel like this plan would give a decent amount of scenery and some operational potential in terms of switching. 
It is a simple get up, but one I think that could be done by a novice such as myself. 
The scenery of it is going to be one I will have to experiment with. 







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Greetings, On30 is my scale of choice as well.  :)

I have a concern about the lower part of that switching yard.
It looks like it would be quite a challenge to get multiple cars to the bottom left siding, especially if there are cars on the other sidings.

Also, have you considered using Peco or Micro Engineering track?  
They both make On30 with larger ties and spacing than HO, and don't come with a noisy hollow roadbed.



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Eric T wrote: Greetings, On30 is my scale of choice as well.  :)

I have a concern about the lower part of that switching yard.
It looks like it would be quite a challenge to get multiple cars to the bottom left siding, especially if there are cars on the other sidings.

Also, have you considered using Peco or Micro Engineering track?  They both make On30 with larger ties and spacing than HO, and don't come with a noisy hollow roadbed. 


The bottom yard is a concern for me as well.
I am doing some messing around to see if it may be more feasible to change the position of the track piece to somewhere more feasible. 

As for the track tie spacing, I do believe that EZ-Track can be nice looking in On30 if weathered correctly.
I have considered On30 track such as those 2 brands and did have some extensive thought to it,
and decided on EZ-track due to the factors of ease of use and ease of use. 

The picture is of HO scale track weathered for On30 on pacificcoastairlinerrs layout would be the look I would go for.








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This is a new reiteration of the plan after some thought.







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Again, that lower-left siding may prove troublesome.

But if you like it, by all means try it.


Also, I see that you're using some 18" straight segments in that plan, but not a 36" for that siding made of four 9" ones.

Might help to streamline things if you have fewer segments in total, 
the joiners in EZ-Track sometimes work their way loose in my experience.

In addition, I advise that you use more than one terminal rerailer to combat voltage drop.
(Or some insulated gap sections, they have terminals underneath if you want to hide the wires)



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I had the brass Atlas segmented track way back in the day and it was fine for my loops.
But that was "greasy kid stuff." 
 
I realize that it can work and might look good if treated right, my beef is the lack of flexibility.
When I discovered flex track... oh man the game was on.  The world opened up.  
The segmented track only goes where it wants to, not where I want it to. 
 
But, that said, if you have it by all means use it. 
If you have to buy it... maybe think about it a while longer before making the investment.  L:

:old dude:  Just an old guy imparting some experience.  




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Kyle,

I can't comment much on your track plan as it is bigger than mine but I can comment on your choice of Bachmann EZ track.

About 7 years ago I built a small 3.5x6.5 foot Christmas Village layout using Bachmann EZ track for my On30 gear. 
I bought all of the track and even bought EZ-Command "snap style--curved radius diverging track". 
I could run it via IR from my easy chair. 

Before I even finished the landscape I removed the EZ track. 
It was noisy and it made my train look, at least to me, like big HO equipment instead of small O scale equipment. 

While I have dabbled at model railroading for many years, it was my first layout so I am a neophyte.

I replaced all of the track with ME On30 code 83 and their code 83 #5 turnouts and installed servo motors for the turnouts. 
The only challenge was fitting the #5s in place of the "snap" EZ-Command switches. 
It took two days to lay the new track (no roadbed, I laid it straight onto the foam and used Woodland Scenics foam riser for grading. 

If I could do it anyone can. 
It looks much better, it is quieter and I was able to fit more railroad into the same area.
On top of that I was able to, over the course of maybe ten hours of very relaxed puttering at it, to paint and ballast the track. 
I would never go back.

Here was the original "plan"






And here was the plan with ME flex in the same area (notice how much more the track "flows"






The added benefit was that the track looked like this after only about a week of work.






It is very small but I like it much more than if I had stayed with the EZ-track. 
Now I use the EZ track when I am trying to visualize changes.
Oh the overall cost of the track, switches and servos was also much less than the cost of the original EZ track.

Tom


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Yes, I would use the Bachmann track to visualize how the "finished" layout would look. Then when I got that established, I would store the track in a dusty closet to use as a template whenever you want to change things around. You would like the ME or PECO On30 track much, much better. I agree with Tom and most everybody else.

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Hello all, I have decided to use this plan for my OO scale layout as that would seems more prototypical.


My plan for On30 is going on to a shelf layout for prototypical reasons.



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Eric T wrote: Again, that lower-left siding may prove troublesome.

Sometimes that's the whole point: 
the mental challenge of the operational moves required to service that industry can be part of the attraction.

The run-around move required to get car on correct side of locomotive for working that spur.
The getting permission from loading dock foreman of other industry to move car so the second industry can be reached.

Or ...The need to switch the spur twice because you can only pull one of the two cars currently there at a time, 
since the car on opposing spur can't be moved and locomotive plus one car is all the free room there is on that opposing spur.

I have one spot similar to that on my modules at club,
and on open house days we often do an audience participation thing where they get to switch some industries; 

"Okay, visiting engineer, that car has to go there, how you gonna get it from here to there ?????????L:

The prototype roads tried to not wind up in such situations, 
but as we ourselves most likely have all experienced, real life ain't always convenient ...





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